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Not sure of how old your K*ds are but take $1500*12*@least 18. That's a rough guesstimation of how much you are spending if you stuck directly to that $1500 per month. Most men DO NOT. So, you are spending more.
Most men DO NOT? Why? They created them, right? I know I did so it does not bother me. I covered this extensively in a previous post on this thread. It is based on a portion of MY income at the time of divorce, and it should be. Even if not I want a certain standard of living for my Ch*ldren. $500 per K*D in itself does not do that, at least not by my standards. But, it does pay for half or maybe two thirds of that and I know my ex puts money away for their college and I have access to the accounts as well (because I trade/manage the accounts).
My view is this – if my ex died or ran away from it all, or even if I had primary physical custody like she does, I would be spending AT LEAST $1500 more than I do now on just myself a month to house, clothe and feed them, likely about $2500 more. In reality I am making out like a champ. Of course the loss is I do not see them every day and there is no price tag that can be put on the loss or gain of that.
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It comes out to be @ least $324000-there's your retirement
No, it’s not. I stated before my income has increased by a ton since the split, but my income at the time of the split is where the $1500 was derived from. If I had to go back to court now it could be a lot more, but I have my income structured properly since I am self employed trading stocks and options and run a small private equity firm doing it for others as well. All through a properly structured LLC. So, even if my ex tried, it would be difficult. $324,000 is not even close to enough to “retire†on and at 39 I consider myself to already be retired anyway because I have no boss, “work†when I feel like it, and can do it from anywhere there is internet. Oh, and I am doing what I am passionate about and love so it doesn’t seem like work when I do it anyway. BTW – I get a pension from the military too that more than covers my CS. I'm fortunate though, but I created my own "luck" in many ways. I can do what I do for the rest of my life without a lot of effort or stress, doesn't matter which way the market goes, there is plenty of money to be made and I have a pretty solid proprietary trading system that makes it pretty easy to figure out.
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I don’t think I would do ANYTHING to support the mother. Not even books for school, a book bag, medical assistance, etc. Instead, I would put my money to good use and bond with my K*ds. Fishing trips, hunting trips, camping trips, trips overseas, etc. Women claim they don't need a man to help them so let them do it themselves. It's ALWAYS funny though how they are dependent upon a man's income and cashing in on her little annuity payments that she carefully planned-AKA your K*ds.
Neither would I. Then again, and as covered in my previous post, I do not have to because I CHOSE to marry (and divorce) a woman that was/is independent, driven, had great income potential (and is making that now) and just an all around kick ass gal AND was/is physically attractive. In other words, I found a woman that met MY standards and didn’t settle for one where I met her’s or just where she was hot and had some good pu*sy that I enjoyed. Sure, women like this are not the norm and even when you find one they can change and turn, mine didn’t and is very self-sufficient.
Look brother, I get it, you married the wrong girl, likely with little going for her outside of her looks, it didn’t work out. I would likely feel the same way you do had I done the same. I didn’t, but that doesn’t mean I do not empathize with guys getting phucked over. I see it happen and I have never said once that some women (possibly the majority) do not use their pu*sy as basically an ATM in order to extract money from guys, even if not under the P4P guise. I have seen it a ton since I have been divorced when dating American women. However, I have also been with women that are more like my ex and get much less in CS than what I pay, but they work their asses off, make good money and are great moms and not even bitter at their ex’s, nor do they want more from him.
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I have a friend, in the military-they get rapped the hardest-that pays $900 for two K*ds
Really depends on his rank – If he’s an E-3 paying that, yeah, getting raped.
If he’s an E-8, not really. If an Officer, anything over an O-2 that sounds about right. When I got out of the Marines (2009) I was an E-8 and had I been required to pay CS off just my income there, I would have been paying about $1300 a month, still would have had plenty left over for me to live a decent life.
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Just curious Walltime but what do you mean by an abundance mentality?
Examples above. By my definition, it is this (man’s perspective): A man who’s reality is that there is an abundance of money to be made, business opportunities to partake in/create, attractive and quality women to sleep with and have relationships with (if he chooses relationships), quality friendships and pretty much anything in life that we are programmed to desire as human beings. Scarcity mentality is the exact opposite. With that said, what we focus on and TRULY believe is what happens in our lives. I choose abundance and it has worked for me wonderfully!! In fact, it seems to spread across all aspects of our lives when we do so, even if our primary focus is
moreso on one particular area.
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Add feminists and you have a mess. As for me?im not average ,you know that saying bringing sexy back? I've had it all the time ,sometimes I lose it and it's due to a woman but I always get it back ! Good Italian genes I guess and a confident attitude ,cash always helps
Haha, well said man, well said.
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I agree with the ugly men thinking they deserve hot woman
I was not trying to say that “ugly†men do not deserve hot women, because they do as long as they are willing to be the best man they are capable of being. Most any guy, even if deemed “ugly†by others, can do a TON of things to make himself attractive, but many choose not to. Men have an advantage here by a ton because 90% of a woman’s attractiveness is physically based. It’s the 10% of intangible qualities that most men ignore and then cry about when “she fucks him overâ€.
I have met guys that I consider ugly that have more game than most anyone and they walk in a room and have a presence about them that is impossible to ignore (women – and men in a non-homo way - respond to it like flies on shit). And I am not talking presence because of their physical size either.
There are active and passive attractive factors that a man possesses, the passive ones are basically set in stone and little can be done about them because they are genetic – height & race being the primary two that may or may not aid him in being appealing to women.
The active ones are (no order of importance, per se)– physique, personality, attitude & outlook on life, confidence, body language, eye contact, ambition, good hygiene, sense of style, being interesting, well read, educated, blah, blah, blah. Oh, and our personal favorite $$$$$$, or at least the potential to make it.
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What's wrong with a stinking fat old ugly Phucker trying to get him a good smelling young hot tender to Phuck? Im not old but if a man works his ass off in his youth, then I think he rightfully deserves a young tender.
I agree 100%. In fact, and I very well will be that guy when I am old (minus the stinking, fat or ugly…haha), I think a man deserves whatever he thinks he does and as men it’s our role to go get what it is we want in life. We will all age – fact! However, see above regarding my opinion on the other attributes. I have met (in CR and otherwise) old dudes that have their shit together and in a non-homo way are attractive dudes and women of all ages respond to positively.
Now for the real point. “He works his ass off†to me means he saved his money, which equates to the fact the HE is using is money as the great equalizer (and it is not just old, fat, ugly, stinking phuckers do this, young ones do too). So, instead of focusing on himself in other attributes, in ADDITION to his money, some guys use only that. Some get taken for a sucker some don’t. I’m not hatin’ on another man’s hustle because it has ZERO impact - positive or negative - on the quality of my life - with women or otherwise. At the end of the day, nobody needs to be told that if you swim in the ocean surrounded by chum and there are a ton of sharks around you might get bitten. For those that are a bit slow the metaphor here is the ocean is life, money is blood/chum and the women, in this case, are the sharks.
This money thing is not exclusive to age. If a guy of any age (and this was said before) makes a ton more money than that who he marries (or her perceived earning potential), marries her without a pre nup, she divorces him and “takes†his money, he didn’t screen properly or was not selective enough.
Is it right? Not really, but another metaphor is if you play a game, say monopoly (metaphor within a metaphor), you know the rules; the rules, whether fair or not, result in you losing. Do you cry and blame the other players for winning, or do you accept it and go play a game you like more? If you do go play another game, do you enjoy that game completely, but still bitch about how bad monopoly sucks as a game? Simple stuff!
Best of luck to all!!!