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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:09 pm 
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This may upset some, but lets see what happens.

This is a general statement to the board, not any one or two persons in particular.

First of all, I am not being judgmental or critical about anything!

Why novias? Novia is one who has a part of your heart, not a Phuck buddy. A Phuck buddy I can understand, because it is about the sex and not emotional.
Why is a novia necessary?

I have been to Costa Rica seven times since 2000.

My way of having fun is to get the max amount of chicas in a given time. Days at the Zona, nights at Idem, or the downtown clubs and bars. Four days, two chicas a day, eight total. Variety is the spice of life.

If I find a gal that gives me a GREAT TIME, I will probably invite her back for one more go round, but I don't keep phone numbers, email addresses, etc.

I don't want or need a novia. I just want to get the max amount of hot chicas.

Over the years, not only in this site, but even in some hobby boards in the United States, I keep reading about those poor guys who are desperate (my words) for love, or the feeling to be loved, and it's really sad.

These girls do this for a living, we do it to get our nuts off. Making guys feel good is their profession.

Color me skeptical, however I believe that most of the girls are back working as their novio is in the jet headed back home. I believe some of these girls have multy novios that send her money. The 100 I could send her ain't shit compared to the 500 a novio with deeper pockets sends.

I'm not sending anybody any money for any reason. I will never see a RFM money, email, or phone call. NEVER!

Am I money grubbing pig? NO. Most of the time if the session is real good, the chica will be given a propina.

My needs are to be felt 'loved' for an hour, then she can leave.

Maybe I just feel that my emotional needs will never be met by a lady who I had a paid for session with. Most chicas are not only cute, but are good lays, and great actresses.

I keep on reading, and have read on boards of this nature since 2000, about poor and love sick guys who have been emotionally hurt. Rarely does anything work out on a permanent basis..............HOWEVER...........in the real world away from this thing of ours, a lot of 'normal' relationships don't work out on a permanent basis either.

I have enough problems in the USA and when I go to Costa Rica it is to party. I don't need any more problems, more importantly problems who's language, customs, etc. are literally and figuratively foreign to me.

Why is a novia necessary?
If she is a novia, do you really feel her heart belongs to you?
At the end of the day, is it really worth it?

I have my flame retardant suit on, however if you really look deep into my posting, you may see that I have deep compassion for those guys who look for love in Costa Rica.

Call it being the devils advocate.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:32 pm 
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I keep on reading, and have read on boards of this nature since 2000, about poor and love sick guys who have been emotionally hurt. Rarely does anything work out on a permanent basis..............HOWEVER...........in the real world away from this thing of ours, a lot of 'normal' relationships don't work out on a permanent basis either.


Yeah, but things are different in Novia land; you are dealing with a relationship that has the same shelf life as a hot fart in a tornado, but these dupes just want to believe so bad that it goes on and on. I have belonged to this board for about 3 years and in that time I think I have witnessed at least 20 such (BIG QUOTE) “relationships”. Normally it either involves a real newbie, no knowledge of Spanish, not very well traveled and usually either coming off a divorce or having very little experience with women. These guys want to believe, but they think there is some easy way.

Old hands on this board post over and over, learn the language; get out of the gulch, don’t fall in love, don’t send money etc etc, but it always falls on deaf ears and the guy eventually gets burned and either is never heard from again or crawls back to the board for some group therapy, hopefully a little wiser for the experience. Same Old, Same Old.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:14 pm 
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I don't want or need a novia.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I find this a very wise quote... :wink:
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If I find a gal that gives me a GREAT TIME, I will probably invite her back for one more go round, but I don't keep phone numbers, email addresses, etc.


Good advice that i have to agree with... :P


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I think for a lot of the guys, it's all part of the fantasy. They're not really "novias," per se, as much as a special chica who helps fulfill the fantasy....someone a little special to be with, who, when you're with her, it just feels right, the chemistry is good. I have a few chicas like this. We get along well. I know what they like and they know what I like. I look forward to seeing them, and they look forward to seeing me. 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:18 pm 
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Of course you can't say the exact same thing about having a wife or girlfriend from here? is it really worth it?

In anything you take a risk.

I wouldn't jump into a relationship with a woman that I just met in Costa Rica, but if I have known her for a couple of years, then who knows.

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Mongering and "novio-hood" don't mix - period. If you want a girlfriend, stop mongering first. Hit the dating sites (God knows they're all over the place in Latin America with all kinds of eligible women), line up dates, and then go down there and woo them. You may not get laid the first time out, the second, or the third - but then that's not your goal anyways right? If you want love and a real relationship, you have to play the game as it's meant to be played - it's that simple.

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Dear John, I do it the exact same way you do. Also, I never ask for phone numbers or give out my info to chicas who ask.

That said, some guys do have the novia fantasy or at least consider having a novia to be the same as having 'comfortable familiar options' sorta like MacDonalds or meat loaf with mashed potatoes and gravy :)

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Women (non-hookers) frequently equate sex with love. Some men, showing up in CR, act like women. In doing so, it adds variety to this site when they post their horror stories of "love gone bad". They forget the experience has been bought with cash.

I have said more than once that the "gulch" is not for everyone. One needs a certain level of emotional maturity to survive the "war" that goes on everyday. Otherwise, one will get screwed and not even have to take his pants off. :D

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I don't see any problem with finding a novia in CR. I question the guys on this board that feel it is okay to make a prositute into their novias. IMHO that guys that do this are just insecure, with zero self esteem and believe that is their only choice. Or, they can't get it any other way, are desperate, and feel this their only way to boost their self esteem and fight loneliness. Or, are perhaps older, want to live a fantasy of dating a beautiful, young thing and die with a smile on their face. There are many other possible reasons.

The situation I find crazy are the younger dudes, like Rolltide, that visit once, and then fall in love with a puta. You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Here is the REALITY in CR:

1. Not every girl is a whore. In fact, much less than 1% of the female population is selling their pu*sy to survive.

2. The story of "I'm just doing this once to pay my bills, pay for school, and such" is mostly a line of bullshit directed towards ignorant gringos.

3. 99% of the gringos reading this post have been introduced to the scene in CR as strictly P4P and need to really "shake" everything in order to find a girlfriend in CR.

I have heard sooooo many guys rant about whores down here. The lines vary, but are similar... She's soooo sweet. She's different and special. She's a part-timer. She's only doing this to support her family. Blah... Blah Blahh...

Here's the bottom line: She is NOT an angel. She is not a saint. She is not even really sweet, because she does this "I'm a sweet girl" act for every customer. SHE IS A WHORE.

Treat her with respect. Pay her for her time. And, treat it as nothing but business and you'll turnout just fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:59 am 
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Chi_trekker wrote:
I don't see any problem with finding a novia in CR. I question the guys on this board that feel it is okay to make a prositute into their novias. IMHO that guys that do this are just insecure, with zero self esteem and believe that is their only choice. Or, they can't get it any other way, are desperate, and feel this their only way to boost their self esteem and fight loneliness. Or, are perhaps older, want to live a fantasy of dating a beautiful, young thing and die with a smile on their face. There are many other possible reasons.

The situation I find crazy are the younger dudes, like Rolltide, that visit once, and then fall in love with a puta. You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Here is the REALITY in CR:

1. Not every girl is a whore. In fact, much less than 1% of the female population is selling their pu*sy to survive.

2. The story of "I'm just doing this once to pay my bills, pay for school, and such" is mostly a line of bullshit directed towards ignorant gringos.

3. 99% of the gringos reading this post have been introduced to the scene in CR as strictly P4P and need to really "shake" everything in order to find a girlfriend in CR.

I have heard sooooo many guys rant about whores down here. The lines vary, but are similar... She's soooo sweet. She's different and special. She's a part-timer. She's only doing this to support her family. Blah... Blah Blahh...

Here's the bottom line: She is NOT an angel. She is not a saint. She is not even really sweet, because she does this "I'm a sweet girl" act for every customer. SHE IS A WHORE.

Treat her with respect. Pay her for her time. And, treat it as nothing but business and you'll turnout just fine.


perfect, everyone should take the time to understand this post


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:27 am 
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here is a fine line between getting off, feeling a connection and then understanding the nature of that “connection.”

I have been guilty of all the” Novia” comments on this Board. I was supposed to meet a gent from this Board last week and did not due to a Novia. I feel bad about not meeting him since we had plans.

The “magnetic pull” of the Novia was too much. The ease of sex, the nature of the sex, the comfort of leaving money out on the table, computer on the desk, getting my bags unpacked,. my clothes washed, get together at her home with family…It was too easy.

But, upon leaving CR I always get the “cash” request. Usually it is equal to the amount of sex I had. So, the cash is in fact the same amount I would have spent on 8 different girls. However, the sex was a 9-10 at all times. All 3 inputs with 8 different positions.

Am I stupid for having great sex for a decent CR price? I do not think so. Do I feel empty when leaving? Yes. Why? I feel I have a “connection” with the lady, yet I know her lips will be on someone else’s C*ck with 24 hours. Do I care about that? Yes.

It is because of an emotional phucked up connection! This is human nature at its’ most common denominator. I do not admire the guys on this Board that can Phuck them and leave them, but I do know that I lack that type of stamina to isolate the sex and call for “next.”

I do not believe it is a matter of self-esteem, but rather one of a feeling of belonging and a feeling of comfort. So, does CR provide that to me? Yes.

Is there a price to pay? Yes. Is it worth it?

That is up to your mental psyche and your ability to assimilate your primal needs with your emotional needs.

I am not saying anything new here. I am stating that it is impossible for me to Phuck them and leave them. I do not mean that every lady I fall for. It is probably one out of every ten. But when the “one” comes along I do throw out the rules of engagement and do what makes me feel better for the moment. However, I do pay the price, not monetarily, but mentally. It does cause angst when back in the USA.

I must be stupid because I do not learn from my mistakes. I even rationalize that the mistakes are mere bumps in the road. The human brain and human thinking processes are mystery to professionals in the medical field. I guess I will always be in the minority of doing the “wrong” thing when it comes to CR.

Maybe I am lucky since the money I spend usually equals what the average guy would spend on women in CR. It is not solace to me since the “feelings” that I have and the aggravation I have cost much more than that.

Like I said, nothing new here, just a general comment that I do envy some of the guys here who write about great trips without the extra baggage. I come with one “bag” and usually leave with 6 “bags” of depression, paranoia and emptiness.


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DEAR JOHN and Chi Trekkers posts should be stickies. You might not like what they are saying but it is 100% truth. No IMHO. And mongers who think otherwise are sheep just waiting to be eaten by the wolves.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:37 pm 
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Zebra wrote:
I think for a lot of the guys, it's all part of the fantasy. They're not really "novias," per se, as much as a special chica who helps fulfill the fantasy....someone a little special to be with, who, when you're with her, it just feels right, the chemistry is good. I have a few chicas like this. We get along well. I know what they like and they know what I like. I look forward to seeing them, and they look forward to seeing me. 8)

Zebra
I agree with this 100%. We usually call them favoritas. Most mongers who come down on vacation have 1 or more of them. IMO the favoritas are the icing on the cake that are the difference between a good vacation and a great one. If you can't or won't develop some chemistry with some of these chicas then there is no way in hell you will end up having as great of a trip as those of us who do.
Serious relationships and looking for non-pros is something that should be done by guys who either live in CR or are down on extended stays. The rest of us should just be happy to pay as we go and remind ourselves what the "E" in GFE stands for.

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I think we may be talking about several different scenarios here. In my opinion, there can be no "novia" relationship unless you live in CR. Having a "girlfriend while I'm there" is a fantasy.

If you are still paying to have sex with her, she is not your novia.

If you are paying her not to sleep with other men, she is not your novia.

If you are paying her bills and not living with her, she is not your novia.

There are unlimited possibilities. For me, the "perfect" relationship is a girl who comes to see me when she wants to see me, phucks me and parties with me with no expectation of a "fee" (although I foot the bill for dinner and drinks, etc, and occasionally slip her some bills for an exceptional event, "above and beyond"). She is free to "work" when she needs to and brings me women to party with. Is that a "novia"? I don't know, but it works for me. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:27 am 
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I look forward to seeing them, and they look forward to seeing me. 8)


I would have said: I look forward to seeing them, and they look forward to seeing my money. :)


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