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I have read many of the post under this topic and this is my two cents on the topic of Novias and dealing with them. I have been going to San Jose for the pat few years and go about 6-8 times per year. The first trip I meet a Columbian girl named Maria who is from Medellin. I am still seeing her when I go down to SJ but I set my limits and try to be realistic.

The first thing I try to remember is where I meet her, HDR, and what she does for a living. Our relationship began on an pay for an hour basis. It is still pay for play. We,as men, have to rememebr at the same time we sizing them up they are really really sizing us up. That is there business. In other words they are trying to figure how much $$$, gifts ect... they cant extract from us. After a few rendevous they know how much we are willing to spend , what kind of restaurants we will take them to ect...They can tell from the number of trips we make to CR if we have any $$$ or not.


What I have done is just set my limits and stick to them. If we are in a mall and she starts pouting for a pair of expensive shoes I just say no. If she starts to really pout I hand her a $5.00 bill and tell her to take a cab home. This usually works. The same when she ask for money. She has only ask twice, via e-mail, and I firmly told her no, she has not asked in more than a year.

Realistically speaking we do not have a future together, because I dont feel like supporting her, her two Ch*ldren, her grandparents ect...However I will enjoy it while it last.

For those of you who think that they are with you for any reason other than $$$ you are fooling yourself. If you want tell them one time that you blew all your money playing poker and then invite them to your room. See what happens when they find out they wont be getting paid.

Fianlly, I always remind myself that after I leave she is looking for her next guy and the next $$$. If that guy wines and dines her and spends alot of $$$ on her she is his novia, and I am just an afterthought. It's not personal it's business.

Great first post, Loco. May you and your novia live happily ever after.....
even if it is not with each other

Well crazy one, you just forgot something very important, mine is different!
I always try to avoid the one I was with in the next trip, I found out that the next one is always better. I don't need a novia and if I ever need one, I'll try a gringa and work my Latin magic on her, if it doesn't work, then I'll have something else in common with you gringos, having my life phucked up by a gringa!
Good post Mike and right on the money!

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I think the main problem is that many guys confuse (or don't understand) what the word "novia" means. It means girlfriend. It has the same meaning in CR that it does here in the States. I doesn't mean "hooker who hangs out with me and charges me for sex". If you pay her for sex, she is NOT your novia! You don't pay girlfriends for sex in the States do you? Well, yeah you do, but not directly, on an hourly/daily basis.

I think there are many lonely (or whatever you want to call them) guys who want to be able to say that they have a girlfriend in CR.

As long as you are happy with your relationship, whether it's based on money or sincere feelings, nobody has the right to judge you and you shouldn't feel bad about yourself.

Orange ,almost all of these relationships that last a little while are based on both. If in CR, you didnt like the women personally you would not have her spend the night ect... You would just phuck her and forget her as their are literally thousands of other options.

The point is that the ladies treat it as business and so should we. Spend what your confortable spending and dont get all worked up when she finds someone else who will give her a better deal. My guess would be that some of the hotter, and more business oriented, women have a number of guys they see on a regular basis when they hit SJ.

It's all about whether or not you enjoy spending time with a girl. If she isn't fun to be with then you are wasting your time and money. As for the labels of girlfriend and hooker. They really don't matter because in many cases they are just alike. Tell a gringa that you are broke and live in parents basement. She will NOT want to be YOUR girlfriend. Tell a hooker the same thing and she will NOT want to be YOUR hooker. The major difference is that the hooker will have sex with other men because it is her job. The girlfriend will have sex with other men if she wants too and will have a list of stupid excuses to justify her whorish behavior if she gets caught.

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Loco Mike... a man WITH A BRAIN and some good old COMMON SENSE! Some on here get it and well, some don't. There is at least one sucker in every crowd, but in the DR it's more like 90% suckers on the newbie side and 20% suckers on the vet side.

See this thread Loco... http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14468&highlight=smell

Berk....

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Holy shitola Orange.... this is a concept I have never been exposed to nor has it ever been written about before on CRT!

Berk......

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FRUITCAKE... and you thought it was something you eat! Not on CRT!

Thanks for posting the thread Berk. Alot of interesting points of view. I guess there will always be guys who want to believe that their girl is different. Possible but not probable.

With all due respect my friend, the meaning of the word Novio is not necessarily the exact same meaning as how we use Boy Friend in the US. True, the word does include what we think of as the meaning and it is frequently used in the exact same manner. But it is also used in a broader context.

I have a few girls that refer to me as their Novio. I have a good relationship with these girls, but they know that I am not monogamous and I have no illusions about what they are doing. It is a term of endearment that they use and I appreciate it. I have no illusions about the basis of our relationship and more importantly they know I have no illusions. It is nice to have a little deeper connection with some and it is recognition on their part that I am one of their favorites. Believe me, it is not because I spend undue money on them or lavish them with gifts, often to the contrary. I treat them well, we have fun and it usually means a discounted price for me.

I do consider them my girl friends, I feel close to them, but not in the same sense as if I had a civilian girl fiend and I have absolutely no trouble distinguishing the difference.

One thing that I have learned is that Costa Rican culture is complex. Everything is in the gray area in Costa Rica, very little if anything is Black and White. Our tendency as Americans is to boil everything down to Black and White reality and it just doesn't work that way in Costa Rica. Sorry.

You are a smart man.

All that means is that the word novia/novio is used incorrectly by both gringos and working girls in CR.

But if you were to ask a non-prostitute for the meaning, it would be EXACTLY the same as you would define it here in the states, no gray area on this one amigo.

Ditto.....

Berk....

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FRUITCAKE... and you thought it was something you eat! Not on CRT!

Of course a non-prostitute female will say that. What would be the implication if she were to say otherwise? That does not mean that the word does not carry other meanings in other contexts

There are many words in our language that have meanings beyond the literal, exact, original meaning of the word.

Bitch is one example. The word bitch is used on this board all the time and it is never used in what you call a "correct" context of a "female dog in heat", yet we all know what everyone is talking about when it is used. I don't see any amateur linguists challenging that. Common usage has expanded the meaning of the word to include things that I suppose you could say are "incorrect".

The words Phucker and Asshole are other examples of words that take on broader meanings through common usage.

So when you say that we are using the word "Novia" incorrectly, I am not sure what you mean. Further, I am quite sure we are really not qualified to make that judgment? That said my experience is that common usage of the word Novia is broader than what you are arguing.

Linguistic arguments aside, I do agree with your assessment that a guy that thinks his Costa Rican hooker "novia" is the same as having a civilian "novia" needs to have their head examined. Regardless of what you call it, it is NOT the same thing. To be sure, civilian novias are a much bigger pain in the ass. .... LOL ....... That is pretty much the bottom line and I think we agree on that.

Also ...... kudos to Loco Mike ...... I like the "here is $5, catch a cab" line. I will for sure use that.

Just let it go for once.