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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:48 pm 
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Now that would be one "lunch" that might be fun to watch :roll: :wink: :lol: :twisted: . Anyone want to place a bet on "who finishes first" :?: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Well - based on your responses, you all act like I have some personal issue with him. However, I hardly know the dude beyond a handshake and small online pissing battle that is more than a year old.

He was about as outspoken as RollTide and, yet, got about 1/1000 of the attention.

I guess its cool to flaunt it, when its new and feels good. Then, when it turns out shitty, its easier to just disappear.

Okay - done.

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Yea but comparing him to Rolltide isn't even close. Hence not as much heat..


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I spoke with Prostoner today and he told me that his relationship with Alecia is better than it ever has been and that he is happier than he has ever been. He is living here and doing very well.

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Yea but comparing him to Rolltide isn't even close. Hence not as much heat..


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They both fell in love with, and married, HDR girls on their first trip. Rolltide was more flamboyant about it, but the basic fact is pretty similar. Both cases - they were extremely defensive and absolutely un-bending when the "other side" presented an opposing view. Other than that... maybe you are right?

I've seen many guys, on their first trip, walking around with stars in their eyes. I remember one specific case of a guy, who met a girl in the HDR and totally fell head over heals. He extended his trip. Went home to meet the family. The thing that got me - she told him the old saying "I'm not a hooker. I was just there to visit some friends." He really believed her!!!! and got VERY MAD AND COULDN'T BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE.
I'm certain she (and her family) had him swinging on a meat hook.... on its way to the butchery. But, everyone thinks their case is different.

Regarding Prostoner - I'm surprised he is soooo happy and that everything with the relationship is so great. However, I'm glad he is still surviving down here. He probably took one of the roughest and riskiest route to getting established as an expat.

If his story is real, then for every story like his, there are probably "at least" one thousand that are complete nightmares. Just take a look around...

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I have tried very hard to refrain form making this post, but you just keep asking for it :roll: :!: and if I get in trouble with Admin, so be it:

Why don't you just crawl back under your rock and leave well enough alone :?: :idea: Prostoner does not want another asinine confrontation with you and no one else wants to see it in print here :evil: :!:

For the life of me, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU LIVE HERE, or post on CRT!! You NEVER have anything good to say about CR (everything here is "bad", "dangerous", "ugly", or anti gringo). If I was soooo miserable I would find some place else to live. Everything you post is negative, negative, negative, and IMHO of very little value!! AND, I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY :!: :!: :!:

To everyone else, I apologize for my rant, but just had to get it off my chest

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I have tried very hard to refrain form making this post, but you just keep asking for it :roll: :!: and if I get in trouble with Admin, so be it:

Why don't you just crawl back under your rock and leave well enough alone :?: :idea: Prostoner does not want another asinine confrontation with you and no one else wants to see it in print here :evil: :!:

For the life of me, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU LIVE HERE, or post on CRT!! You NEVER have anything good to say about CR (everything here is "bad", "dangerous", "ugly", or anti gringo). If I was soooo miserable I would find some place else to live. Everything you post is negative, negative, negative, and IMHO of very little value!! AND, I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY :!: :!: :!:

To everyone else, I apologize for my rant, but just had to get it off my chest


BangBang,

Your rant is fine by me. These are all good points. I've found a way to be happy down here. It was not easy, but I'm okay for now. In fact, I'm probably much happier and content than most gringos I know down here. Like Johnny Cash once said, I walk the line. Meaning - I have never allowed myself to go native (tico) and I have swam out of the downward spiral that many gringos fall into, hookers, alcoholism and outright avoided many others such as gambling, drug addiction and the eventual down and out, living day to day, poverty.

I suppose the bigger question is - why do I post on a gentlemen's board??? Well, I don't have an answer, except that it has helped me out immensely and especially in my early years in CR. I owe this board for getting me out of some pretty bad spots. You can also say - I owe this board for getting me out of some sticky spots, that the board also got me into!!!!

Everything here is bad, dangerous, ugly or anti-gringo???? Bad... too vague man... nothing in life is all that bad. Dangerous??? Well... I think we both have had run-ins with the darker side. If you do not have a your guard up, CR can be a dangerous place. Ugly??? Lots of fat and ugly girls working in the DR. Lots of drunk and nasty gringos to go with 'em. However, outside the DR, lost of hot women everywhere. Probably a better selection of gringos too.

Last of all... Anti-gringo??? Everything I've posted on this section is FOR THE BENEFIT OF GRINGOS. YOU JUST DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING...

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My two cents, I have met Pros. several times. And am glad he shared his experinces on this board. And the last time I saw him things were not going good for him and his girl. I am glad to hear he is happy today.

2nd, I have got alot of good info over the years from Chi, from walking in Sabana park to pick up girls. To being out late at night and having people throw bricks at the car. With you Chi, I have watched you evolve in CR. I probally would not have touched this thread, But when you talked about a debt to this board you struck a nerve with me. All I can say is thanks for sharing.

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Sorry guys, but Chi has a much firmer grasps on the reality of CR than most on this board. I don't know him personally, and don't even know if he is an asshole... But, sometimes it is hard to hear and accept reality, when it conflicts with your version....just my two cents


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After looking back at Chi v. Prostoner, I don't find any real animosity from either side. Chi was vocal in his stance as was Prostoner. It got a little ugly, but most of us have at one time or another had worse here.

My point is, since Chi-Trekker and Prostoner were in a dialog back then, I think it is totally appropriate for Chi-Trekker to inquire "whatever happened to..." Unlike a few who have posted to this topic, I don't feel Chi is "stirring up shit."

And whether or not his inquiry was at least in part based on rancor, his question is legitimate for this section of CRT.

For those of us who care about the subject of dating/cohabiting/marrying with a prostitute, the success stories are as important as the tales of failure. These discussions help us, especially the starry-eyed romantics avoid potential traps and dangers.

I have only casually met both Prostoner and Chi-trekker, the latter one more time than the former. I found both gentlemen to be friendly, intelligent, reasonable and generous with their time and information.

So I support Chi-trekker here. Let us talk about all the stories those involved are willing to share. Let's not speculate, quewstion motives or allow our glands to overwork themselves. Chi's basic question is excellent: What are the long-term stories of survival or death of these (former) john/hooker relationships.

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Thirdworld wrote:
Sorry guys, but Chi has a much firmer grasps on the reality of CR than most on this board. I don't know him personally, and don't even know if he is an asshole... But, sometimes it is hard to hear and accept reality, when it conflicts with your version....just my two cents


I never really considered this board to be a popularity contest. Some guys consider it to be some sort of fraternity or guys-only club. But, really it only costs $39 to join and does not stack-up to the blood, sweet and tears and brotherhood I found in my college fraternity, or friendships before and after.

To be honest - when I see groups on this board form in gringo spots around town - I tend to hide nowadays.

The people that do know me; know I ain't no asshole. There are people on this board that I have direct problems with - you know who you are - beyond that I'm a pretty peaceful guy.

BTW... a good point was hit upon earlier. Why am I still here in CR??? To be frank - I have no idea. I never did plan on it being more than 6 or 12 months. I'm now going on three years. About 1.5 years into living here - I was ready to QUIT. I was burnt out and tired of it. Bored, exhausted and sick of it. I wanted to move on. However, that changed and I'm once again content, for the time being.

Now I'm highjacking my own thread....

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Prostoner had a problem with your complete lack of respect for his wife, Chi. Calling a man's girl a "whore", etc, is bad form if nothing else, no matter what her former profession.

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Chi, it's not worth the hassle.. The p4p novios live in a different world and don't really acknowledge reality.. No, that's not right, they have an alternative reality.... And something tends to make them very sensitive... From a psychological standpoint, I think they are a little out of touch... When your chica is a working/ former working girl you are put into a certain little group, unless your chica is one of the standouts... You generally still frequent hooker spots to see her or your amigas. You don't really hang out with anyone outside the p4p world and that warps your outlook a bit.. I try to be nicer and not confrontational now and don't want to step on any toes, but p4p novios have to know that this is not the norm and I will repeat over and over. If you are going date or marry a hooker you really can't be so sensitive...


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Prostoner had a problem with your complete lack of respect for his wife, Chi. Calling a man's girl a "whore", etc, is bad form if nothing else, no matter what her former profession.


Pac55,

The title of that thread was called "Dating Putas." So, there you have it, what do you expect???

I also don't recall directly calling his wife a whore (yah know.... like name calling). If anything, it was in context of the thread. I don't even think I knew much about his relationship, until he chimed in and went off on me. So, what do you want... an apology????

Can't you at least admit that if you marry her, you are at least open for risk, with issues with her past occupation???? If you date her and/or marry her, you are dating marrying ALL of her. This includes her quirks, bad habits, good habits and YES HISTORY. You can't just flip a switch and pretend that stuff didn't happen.

If you can't deal with that fact point blank.... then I believe you are in the wrong game. However, I need to listen to guys like thirdworld..... there's no point.

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Chi, it's not worth the hassle.. The p4p novios live in a different world and don't really acknowledge reality.. No, that's not right, they have an alternative reality.... And something tends to make them very sensitive... From a psychological standpoint, I think they are a little out of touch... When your chica is a working/ former working girl you are put into a certain little group, unless your chica is one of the standouts... You generally still frequent hooker spots to see her or your amigas. You don't really hang out with anyone outside the p4p world and that warps your outlook a bit.. I try to be nicer and not confrontational now and don't want to step on any toes, but p4p novios have to know that this is not the norm and I will repeat over and over. If you are going date or marry a hooker you really can't be so sensitive...


This actually makes a lot of sense. I'm talking to people who still live in the gulch (more or less). Trust me... this can do wonders to your psyche. I'll admit it - I lived it for a while. A little bit of alcohol... hookers... friends dating hookers... setting up your friends with friends of your novia.... good times. Chicas telling you that your guapo and que riiicooooo over and over again. Do this over and over again for a good year and suddenly it becomes your own world, and everything else seems out of kilter.

But, this doesn't change what it really is....

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The anger and aggression tells you a lot.. when a person is confident of their side of an argument they can reason in a civil manner.....Look at how the anger in posts always flairs up...


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