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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:21 am 
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Yes the maternal instinct is alive and well in CR, the chicas adore and crave bebes, last trip one told me "bebes are muy importante, they are beautiful" Another one that didn't have any yet (23) told me she was getting old and wanted a bebe soon. :lol: I've never talked to one that considered any bebe a "mistake" but a treasure no matter what the financial circumstances or where the Papa was.
And don't even get me started again on the Catholic church's outdated, irresponsible, idiotic stance on birth control. :roll:

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Sad as it is, and this is world-wide, many of these young girls see having a baby as having something (someone) to love (and love them in return) unconditionally. I've heard this from young girls in the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and Colombia.

They thought the young K*D who got them pregnant was going to be "the one" but when she gets pregnant and he splits they transfer all their love to that "little bundle of joy".

They also see it as a "right of passage" into womanhood.
These thoughts are inbred in them. The Catholic upbringing only adds to this illusion.

Unfortunately either there is no one in the family who tries to teach them anything else or they simply don't listen. Of course that is a problem in the USA, too.

That was something that struck me about the girls in Brazil in contrast to some place like Costa Rica. Many of the girls in Costa Rica get into the business to support their baby, the girls in Brazil accept "working" as a chosen profession, at least while they can make a living at it or someone takes then out of the game.


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Just curious ... Is it the brainwashing we get all of our lives about prostitutes being trash that leads some to say they are damaged goods? Here in the states if a guy goes out looking to meet a woman he usually goes to a bar/club. What makes these girls any different? They want the same things and they also get those things ... Free drinks , food , gifts , etc ... These whores have sex with plenty of people. Don't K*D yourself into thinking otherwise. The only differnce I see is that with a chica in CR , I hand most of the money to HER and in the states most of it is handed to employees of wherever I had to take her first in order to "maybe" get laid later. :roll:


If you are one of these guys (and apparently you are) that rationalize that "they're ALL doing it for money one way or another" then there's really nothing left to be said (about that).

You are too far gone to be helped, especially by anyone here. :wink:

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Spock, I think you make some good points but man, I have got to laugh a bit at the rationalizations. Fer instance:

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Most of the married guys typically Phuck these girls for VARIETY. They are different from the guys' wives and/or significant others. Females, for the most part, aren't *as* interested in variety - they Phuck for "love" !!!

These "varietal" guys are better than the single guys who are sport phucking because they are just doing it for variety? Yeah, right. You conveniently neglected to mention that these "better" guys are lying to their mates, meaning that their entire relationship is based on deception, misdirection, deceit and lies. Yeah, they are a lot better relationship material! Image



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Sorry my friend but I believe you've missed my point.

I highlighted/quoted the prior poster's "I find it monumentally ironic and hypocritical for any monger to evaluate any chica for a long-term relationship and decide that her former hooker status is somehow more relevant that his mongering."

THAT is the point I was referring to, NOT whether the"varietal" male monger was "better" than a male non-monger.

My suggestion was that a male monger was better relationship material (even if only *marginally* :roll: ) than a prostitute. :wink:

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I think these broad over generalizations in this thread are just stupid. #1 a lot of the guys that show up at the Del Rey are complete morons. Many of the women are intelligent and well educated.

Of course the opposite is true of many in both groups.


"Broad over generalizations" ??? Not sure I've seen (many of) those.

If you're NOT going to talk about things "in general" then there's no use to discussing ANYTHING because there are "exceptions" to EVERY "rule" (except maybe the one about "death and taxes" :lol: :lol: )

So give me a ratio. Your "best guess" of course.


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This has much (or more) to do with the guys as it does with the women.

I take exception to the notion that every time one of these relationships fails; it is because "she was a puta". It is NEVER suggested on this board that it is because the guy has never in his life ever been successful in a relationship.


Interesting point and you're almost certainly correct but as I believe I pointed out earlier we're only hearing one side here. Surely the gus IS to blame, at least partially in many of these cases.


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What is especially odd to me is all the mongers that are so hung up on monogamy. Monogamy is just not as big a deal in most other places in the world as it is in the US. This is especially true of Costa Rica!


If monogamy is no big deal in C.R. then how come a new "girlfriend" (in CR) gets so upset over 1 single picture in a guy's camera of a former girlfriend ??? Monogamy is (still) considered the WORLDWIDE norm and that's not about to change anytime soon regardless of how many of US think it's "outdated".


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Then to top it all off, these guys get involved in women that sell their asses for a living and then have the nerve to blame the women when they fail to live up to their unrealistic expectations.


Now THAT'S fair (and totally accurate !)


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I have some GREAT relationships with some of these women. I don't expect monogamy, I am not monogamous. I know these women sell their ass and I don’t have a problem with it. I enjoy the freedom of the situation. I just enjoy the time that I spend with them and I don't take it any further than that. Over the long term, who knows what might develop? I would not rule out hooking up permanently with one of them, but I am sure not rushing into anything either.


And a GREAT attitude ! :wink:

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And why, like Pavlov's dog, do we continuously salivate over a "relationship"?


I can answer that.

American men have been emasculated. We are the most femine men in the whole damn world.

Name another country in the world where the men are the ones worried about "relationships"? Answer: Nowhere!


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ????? :roll: :roll: :roll:


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American men have forgotten how to be men. Thanks the women’s movement and the phucked up politically correct crap that has come out of an overtly "sexist" movement. I ask you, how is feminism any different than racism?


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ????? :roll: :roll: :roll:

I'm sorry; was I repeating myself ??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

THAT one's simple - the former (racism) is wrong and the other (feminism) is right !!! :roll:


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We have bought into the idea that women deserve to have a dominant role in our society and the feminist movement has done an excellent job of tilting all the rules in favor of women.


WRONG ! (but I certainly see how YOU would think it) Neither sex deserves to have a dominant role in our society ! And the "feminist movement" has done an excellent job of making the rules EQUAL, NOT "in favor" of women. :roll:

Now excuse me while I go get my panties out of the dryer...... :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Pacifica55 wrote:
Tell it, KC!

One of the guys wrote me after his first trip to CR. He loves the place but has an SO of some 20+ years who he respects. He had kinda written off his life and was in "wait patiently to die" mode until he came down, now he wants to return as needed. He would prefer to keep his options open, but...

I told him he had two choices: Continue to ask permission to come down on some pretext or start telling her what he is going to do and be as honest as possible.

I explained that she would eventually find out about the deception and would feel lied to and betrayed, losing respect for him in the process. She's not a stupid woman. How much better would it be to tell her that he is feeling unfulfilled in the relationship and needs some space to deal with his "issues". That way he is not being dishonest about his trips, he is just not telling her the details. If she finds out all about it, he can say he told her he was going through issues!


So you're saying omiting facts known to be important to the other person is NOT actually "lying" then, correct ? :roll:

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Neither sex deserves to have a dominant role in our society ! And the "feminist movement" has done an excellent job of making the rules EQUAL, NOT "in favor" of women. :roll:
That's not logical Spock, you feminist bitch. :lol:

It's not about who deserves what it's about the natural order of things as they were for thousands of years, men and women are different and always will be. And the feminist movement has done an excellent job of screwing up men and women's thinking doing much more harm than good. Equality in the workplace, equal rights, fine but that's where it should have STOPPED. Women can't replace men and men shouldn't be acting like women. :roll:

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So, while I was in my forties, I had a gorgeous redhead living with me who brought me women from the ages of 19-25 (she was bi). She cost me nothing and stayed for six years. How was I able to pull this off? I made my requirements known up front, never lied to her or tried to deceive her.


P55 - as a worshipper of redheads, you are now my new god. Rule on!


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Neither sex deserves to have a dominant role in our society ! And the "feminist movement" has done an excellent job of making the rules EQUAL, NOT "in favor" of women. :roll:
That's not logical Spock, you feminist bitch. :lol:

It's not about who deserves what it's about the natural order of things as they were for thousands of years, men and women are different and always will be. And the feminist movement has done an excellent job of screwing up men and women's thinking doing much more harm than good. Equality in the workplace, equal rights, fine but that's where it should have STOPPED. Women can't replace men and men shouldn't be acting like women. :roll:


Watch who yer calling "bitch" fella - I'll smack you with my (man) purse !!! :D

"Natural order" of things Gracie ??? :roll:

Wasn't all THAT long ago we burned witches at the stake and made African Americans sit in the back of the bus..... :wink:

Equal rights IS where it "stopped". If guys CHOOSE to go further (or is that farther ? :lol: ) that would be their choice now, wouldn't it ? (or are the women FORCING us to do so ? :) )

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Ineresting discussion, I now think if she didn't really want out of the old life then why would she marry, move to the US and have a baby? I hear that quite often DelRey girls are marrying gringos they met there.

Isn't having a baby what gets them, most of the time, in that line of work?
IMHO, having a baby doesn't mean anything at all to them, just oops, another stupid mistake!


Wow, it is difficult to put into words my reaction to this statement without being rude. Honestly, this statement says a good deal more about you than it does about these women.

I think it is pretty safe to say that the vast majority of these women put a much higher value on the lives of their Ch*ldren than what you are articulating. Costa Rica is a country that has very strong Catholic values (even if they do not practice) and there is a very high priority placed on Ch*ldren and family. From what I have observed these women are very proud of their Ch*ldren and make the sacrafices that they make because the fathers are deadbeats. In their minds the problem is not the Ch*ldren, but the fathers. Fortunately their outlook is a good deal more civilized and human than the one that is articulated above.

Yes Kc, that's why their Ch*ldren end up, if females, doing what mom does and the males as criminals. I don't know where you get the proud part. Do you think that they are gonna tell you otherwise? If they were proud of their Ch*ldren, they would never be putas. That's not a sacrifice but an easy way out. If you could dig deeper, you'll find out that they don't take care of their Ch*ldren, that's the job of "retired" abuelas putas.
I don't care what you think about me but if you think I treat them (putas) bad, you are wrong. I've always been lucky with the ladies because I know how to treat them, but I don't fall for their BS.
You don't know what's their outlook, they just feed you what you want to hear and only you know why you tend to believe it.
Kc, why are you trying to put those "ladies" up in a pedestal? I know we should treat them nice and shit but let's not forget what they are because if we do, then we marry them and end up being the laughingstock of the neighborhood.
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WRONG ! (but I certainly see how YOU would think it) Neither sex deserves to have a dominant role in our society ! And the "feminist movement" has done an excellent job of making the rules EQUAL, NOT "in favor" of women. :roll:

Now excuse me while I go get my panties out of the dryer...... :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I am all for equality AND mutual respect.

You obviously have not gone through a divorce with Ch*ldren involved.

You say the Feminist movement promotes equality: Hogwash!!!!!

What about the pro-choice movement? What they promote is Pro-choice for women. Men have NO SAY in the decision weather or not they want to be a parents. In a world where abortions are legal and women have a choice, shouldn't men have a say weather they want to be involved or not? Shouldn't a woman have to factor that in before she makes thier choice? What is wrong with requiring a woman to ask the man before she makes her final decision weather or not she can count on the mans support. If he says no, then then she should factor that into her final decision weather to go forward or not.

As a practical matter, in Costa Rica they have Pro-Choice for men, in USA there is Pro-Choice for women. Each is equally unfair and wrong.

You won't find a single woman in the feminist movement promoting Pro-Choice for men. NEVER, EVER! Feminism is sexism.


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You don't know what's their outlook, they just feed you what you want to hear and only you know why you tend to believe it.
Kc, why are you trying to put those "ladies" up in a pedestal? I know we should treat them nice and shit but let's not forget what they are because if we do, then we marry them and end up being the laughingstock of the neighborhood.[/b][/size] :wink:


All you have to do is see how their eyes light up when they talk about their Ch*ldren. I am not saying that you treat these women badly. But your statement shows an underlying disrespect for what I consider a noble sacrifice on the part of many of these women.

As far as putting them on a pedestal, I am not sure that is the case. I will say that I have found a good many of these women to be extraordinarily fine people that are basically humiliating themselves and risking social ostrization (sp?) to take care of the needs of their Ch*ldren. I find that very noble and we should not be guilty here of disrespecting those women and their sacrafice.

That said, many are just money hungry bitches that care for nothing but their pursuit of material possessions. Many fall somewhere in between. It is a mixed bag, but we should not paint them all with the same brush!


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