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I would not say that you attract immature women, but I think the kind of responsible, well educated, career woman that we might call mature don't have much interest in gringos. I know some hookers and ex-hookers who are quite responsible and mature, although quite ignorant and uneducated. I haven't run across any more drama with the average hooker than the average gringa. But then, I hung out with the gringas in bars, so really the subspecies is quite similar.

I have a very low tolerance for what might be called immaturity. If I see signs of it (and signs are usually there very early on) I follow the prime directive: NEXT!

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I think it is well documented that chicas in the Gulch have their strengths (good in bed) and their flaw (stealing, lying and immaturity).

I'm talking about Costa Rican women in general. My opinion is that this culture here is very "closed" to the rest of the world. They stay in the house where their parents live well into their 30's or 40's unless they get married and have K*ds. When their parents die, then they take over the house. They also just don't EVER travel. My novias brother went to Mexico once and it was considered a MAJOR EVENT.

One big reason - their parents don't send them away to school. I did most of my learning on how to be a man and live independently while I was away at college. This paradigm doesn't exist in Costa Rica. Even if they go to UCR, they still live at home, as a general rule.

Here - they also learn EVERYTHING from their parents. If their parents are stupid, well guess what... they too inherit this annoying trait.

My parents taught me to experience life. To travel. To learn from experience and to listen to people who are smarter or more wise than you.

If you ask me, these are the main factors that determine who a tica learns about life:

1. parents and family
2. church

In this culture I also think that women are reinforced to being helpless and powerless, which in itself, can make them into knieving and dishonest little cry Babi*s.

Sometimes I just want to pickup and fly out and never come back. Its very hard to deal with...

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Going in Search of Nicas in San Juan del Sur next week. I'll see if they are a bit more mature. I find most of the Nicas I meet to be sweet girls, similar to country girls here.

I never really gave much thought to the maturity level of different types of latinas until this thread. IMO, Colombianas seem to be head and shoulders above their latina counterparts in terms of assuming responsibility for their actions, awareness of the world around them, etc. The Dominicanas are very lively and a great deal of fun to be with, but they seem to come up a bit short in the maturity department as well. Dominicanas do seem to have more street-smarts and interpersonal skills than ticas, though. I've been with nicas in the gulch, but never more than a quick session back at the hotel or MP. I'm not sure I have a good read on them.

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I still feel if guys handle themselves correctly that chicas will act right. This isn't about being macho, its about boundaries, respect, etc..

This is an interesting topic for sure. I just get the feeling that all the reponsibility is put on the chica. Maybe rightfully so, but if a chica acts out, you putting up with it almost enables them.

This doesn't mean to create a scene telling the chica to straighten up or else. Its about calmly telling her it isn't going to work. Emotional responses are easily disgarded, where as a calm "look, this is what's up" conversation seems to resonate a little more.

Cujo

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I think machoism is a bad idea in most cases. Although latinas seem more tolerant of it, it aint'going to go over well in this day and age. Unless, ofcourse, somehow she enjoys it.

I recall another thread about someone using a "a big balls" approach to keeping his bitch in place. We all know how well that ended.

The problem I have - is no matter what i try - nothing works. I've had people tell me to just ignore her. I've had people say to be machoistic towards her. All approaches fail.

So, I'm at the point, where I focus on other things and have pretty much given up. I will be making a trip north soon and will probably a dose of reality... in which case... might mean she needs to leave my house when I return.

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Me too

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I think Blue Devil is on to something here.
Bt, I'll make a stab at it too. Latin culture has always been macho and favored males n manly capacities that include being the head of the house, favored older brother, or males dominating the workplace. Women on the other hand have always been Daddie's little girl, a novia or encouraged to be sexy latina's and Mommies. Until recently, most women never had to enter the workforce in business or places where maturity counts. So, they continue to be vain, immature and to use cutie arguments and sexy guile to get their way. Nobody has discouraged that type of behavior, so they get stuck being emotional 14 year olds for life.

It also doesn't help that they sit home and watch cartoons all day with the bebes either.

Just my thoughts....

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I think Blue Devil is on to something here.
Bt, I'll make a stab at it too. Latin culture has always been macho and favored males n manly capacities that include being the head of the house, favored older brother, or males dominating the workplace. Women on the other hand have always been Daddie's little girl, a novia or encouraged to be sexy latina's and Mommies. Until recently, most women never had to enter the workforce in business or places where maturity counts. So, they continue to be vain, immature and to use cutie arguments and sexy guile to get their way. Nobody has discouraged that type of behavior, so they get stuck being emotional 14 year olds for life.

It also doesn't help that they sit home and watch cartoons all day with the bebes either.

Just my thoughts....

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Double post. Sorry.

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Exactly, but when it works, why stop?

Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

"but I think the kind of responsible, well educated, career woman that we might call mature don't have much interest in gringos."

I think the ticas in the upper class with educations and good jobs stay close knit in their upper class society.... meaning that unless you are somehow attached to their network they will not have anything to do with you, now that doesnt count you out necessarily just because you are gringo.... its just they want multiple points of reference on the interloper, once your in their circle I doubt they would count you out because you are gringo. But who knows, I have noticed an undercurrent of resentment in the ticos lately with the economy getting worse but this is more from the lower class ticos than the upper class ticos.

You are right Cujo about standing your ground and not accepting behavior so to speak. Then, for me, it becomes a case of how good the pu*sy is. I've had several times where I just knew I had to put up with it and wear that pu*sy out a few more times. BUT, I knew that with the behavior, that it wouldn't last long. Women are actually fairly dumb animals. Why? If they weren't they would figure out that they can control the world with a blowjob.

CRSurftown, I am glad you see my point, and I agree with what you say as well. I don't feel totally excluded from middle to upper class Tico society, but I have not had much dealings with that sort of Ticos. I certainly am not on Laura Chinchilla's guest list.

I would advise anyone involved with any chica who can't keep it reasonably together that the word 'next' is still at your disposal. I haven't found many, if any, people who change much in life, of any nationality, creed or sex. If it's not working now, it's not likely to change. Bite the bullet and move on.

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A couple of points:

1) It's not just Tica women. Latina women in general are like this to a lesser or greater degree. Even the women from the "european" South American countries (Argentina, Chile) are much more "feminine" (read: girly girls) than their counterparts in the US or Europe.

2) Try watching Spanish soap operas and you'll start to understand them a little better. All of that drama, tears, wildly implausible (for us) scenarios and nonsense, while exaggerated for TV ratings, is representative of what you can expect with latinas.

mh

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