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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:36 am 
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Hey Patriot ,Time heals all wounds ... each time to speak to her or email her the scab falls off . Eventually the wound is open so large it can't heal .Keep that in mind ...



There isnt enough Info to answer the whoole question but keep in mind where you are posting it ... this isnt exactly a Dr Phil sponsored PRO -relationship site :lol: looking for relationship advice here is like looking for a business partner in Bankruptcy court ! :lol:

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I’m not trying to be harsh guys but if you going into a multi year BAD relationship and you still want to be with her, then I’m just stating reality. If you guys want to sugar coated and tell him that the train will not hurt when it hit him, then that is on you. I’m just screaming the train is coming and get off the tracks, after that if he doesn’t want to be warned, then I reserve the right to pull up my chair and watch the splatter when the train hits. I wish him well, this is why I advice earlier on my post to give up the sport. It is not for everyone. But if you are ill prepare and you want to go with your eyes closed, do not hear warnings and you know better but you still doing the same thing, then you have made the decision to be a victim. My $.02.


I actually agree 100%. I have been "preachin'" this for years. CR is NOT for everyone. I'm just misguided, though, according to some who come up with everything from A-Z to rationalize poor judgment and stupid behavior... like "Mine's Different". Yea, right! :lol:

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I’m not trying to be harsh guys but if you going into a multi year BAD relationship and you still want to be with her, then I’m just stating reality. If you guys want to sugar coated and tell him that the train will not hurt when it hit him, then that is on you. I’m just screaming the train is coming and get off the tracks, after that if he doesn’t want to be warned, then I reserve the right to pull up my chair and watch the splatter when the train hits. I wish him well, this is why I advice earlier on my post to give up the sport. It is not for everyone. But if you are ill prepare and you want to go with your eyes closed, do not hear warnings and you know better but you still doing the same thing, then you have made the decision to be a victim. My $.02.


I agree with most of this. I can empathize with the guy to a point, but when he chooses to be victimized & still wants to go back for more...well, I'm not saying that I'm gonna pull up a chair to watch the carnage, but I lose sympathy for him.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:17 pm 
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Thought I'd put some stuff to rest:
I have and will monger in CR and other places, ( if I get employed again) and have not fallen for the others. Probably because I have not really spent any time with them, except for the chit chat and other BS. She and I spent many a week or more together and really got to know one another over the course of 3 years.

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Is it over for something she did?
Did she break a rule?
Is she still a working girl?


In answer to these questions:
I think it is over but more due to something I did than what she did.
No rules were established.
I can not answer that question with any certainty. However she used to work and I did know about it; may not have liked it but accepted it. She says she doesn't work anymore due to our baby. Hence the DNA thing.
I have not forced this issue with her.

Her latest RFM was refused, by the way.

And lastly I take no offense to the harshness of any comments posted.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:25 pm 
pretty deep stuff Patriot....won't the baby thing insure that you will get RFM, but maybe just not from her?? I would imagine that she would want some sort of support for your Ch*ld?? New baby, loss of a job...man your life is certainly changing...good luck!


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So nice to give advice from well outside the situation, isn't it boys? :roll:

Aside from Squidemoticon, no one has addressed the real key point of Patriot's initial post: The bambino.

Patriot, my 2 cents' worth: Withold any further support, including emotional support, until the DNA test is in the bag.

If the ch*ld is yours, you'll have a different set of issues to confront. If OTOH the babe isn't yours, then a clean break should be easier.

Unless you're a stone masochist, I would surely walk away. Keep in mind that the only information I am working on has been provided by you; I'm basing this advice on generalities about long-distance relationships, intercultural differences, age differences and your current employment/financial situation.

Please keep us posted.

One more thing: I think everyone who lumps ALL hookers into the "dishonest, manipulative, evil, disingenuous etc." category is more blind than I.

Walk a mile in her moccasins...er, CFM pumps, guys. Do any of you know her? Do any of you have any real idea of what the woman in question is like? I'm addressing these latter two paragraphs specifically to Berk and (extremely harsh) J0sie.

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Guys, I have fallen into the trap of replying here before but have learned my lesson. It is like when a chica asks me what I think about something. I answer her honestly and then comes down upon me a shitstorm..... So, I have learned to take the stance of no comment... :D


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J0sie wrote:
I’m not trying to be harsh guys but if you going into a multi year BAD relationship and you still want to be with her, then I’m just stating reality. If you guys want to sugar coated and tell him that the train will not hurt when it hit him, then that is on you. I’m just screaming the train is coming and get off the tracks, after that if he doesn’t want to be warned, then I reserve the right to pull up my chair and watch the splatter when the train hits. I wish him well, this is why I advice earlier on my post to give up the sport. It is not for everyone. But if you are ill prepare and you want to go with your eyes closed, do not hear warnings and you know better but you still doing the same thing, then you have made the decision to be a victim. My $.02.


I actually agree 100%. I have been "preachin'" this for years. CR is NOT for everyone. I'm just misguided, though, according to some who come up with everything from A-Z to rationalize poor judgment and stupid behavior... like "Mine's Different". Yea, right! :lol:

Berk....

I think JOsie had some pearls of wisdom in there. Berk also made a good point: "CR is not for everyone." Why? Because we are not all the same. We have different backgrounds, make-ups and experiences. These things shape our perspective and our behavior.

For exactly the same reasons, the girls are also different. If a man makes several attempts with several different partners and the results are always the same, it is time to look at the common denominator, him.

If the man thinks that all women (or all pros or all latinas, etc,) are the same, that would be a great place to start straightening his thinking out. It just ain't so and it colors every other thought that he might have about women and relationships. JMHO.

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El C, I think that you are been a little shortsighted to say the least.

First, if you think that I’m being harsh by stating reality then phucked, labeled harsh, but from his own admission he knows that his behavior and relationship is not a healthy one. Then WTF stay? Isn’t this the same reason many of us leave the good old USA for CR, to get away from lousy relationships? Move on, even if the Ch*ld is his, he can deal with that without being involved with the chica.

Secondly, let me state the obvious, they are not paragraphs but sentences. When you live in the USA and you come to visit to CR, you do not have the luxury to treat the chicas any other way than P4P. To imply that we can actually have a relationship of any kind with a working chica when you are in USA, then you are blinding yourself to the obvious mishaps, scams, RFM’s and overall heartache that will follow. Unless you can move and live in CR, you are not playing on the same field and rules that the chicas do and they will milk that to the end. WTF have a relationship like that?

Again, I’m not trying to be harsh, dump or flame Patriot. He came to us with a request for comment. In this camp some advise to try to work something out, for others a clean break will be the cure. My last sentence to Patriot is that most of you “novios” advise is like the proverbial - “The blind leading the blind”.

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I absolutely agree that it is not possible to maintain a relationship when you don't live in the same country. I am not discouraging ongoing fun and business of the most friendly nature and some great true friendships between guys and working girls. However, in my opinion, both parties need to be on-site and actively participating in order for a "relationship" to have a chance. Adding distance to the array of obstacles seems to me to be an insurmountable task.

A caveat: I have heard both sides of too many tales of woe. Often, the story changes depending on the perspective of the teller at the moment. A spouse described in the worst possible terms can suddenly become the apple of his eye, again. It may be that he has become blind to her faults or it may be that we only heard some of the whole story or maybe she has convinced him that she has reformed.

I think Patriot did the right thing, discussing the situation with others. Now he probably has a clearer perspective, whether we agree with his take or not. We only get to do this once and we are entitled to do it our way.

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El Ciego wrote:
One more thing: I think everyone who lumps ALL hookers into the "dishonest, manipulative, evil, disingenuous etc." category is more blind than I.


Not only can you NOT lump ALL "working ladies" into such a category you cannot lump all the behavior of a particular working lady into this one category. A woman's benhavior will compliment the man to which she is "engaged" at the moment. If she smells weakness, if she is hungry for blood, she will rufie you, rob you, manipulate you, imprison you etc etc. That SAME girl without another guy might be the little doll he always dreamed about. How can this be?

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"CR is not for everyone." Why? Because we are not all the same. We have different backgrounds, make-ups and experiences. These things shape our perspective and our behavior.


Here's an example that illustrates my point:

About a year or so ago we read about the StingRey, LaDiablo and Ingrid drama...StingRey married Ingrid and got hosed. She has made a full time job of taking this poor bastard to the cleaners. He even got pulled off a plane because he owed her back alimony and was identified. Meanwhile LaDiablo has been enjoying the company of this physically beautiful young lady ever since, yet in complete control (to the best of my knowledge) of the situation. One guy was the victim of one of the most evil creatures in Costa Rica, the other guy is very happy and succesful in his relationship with the same sweet beautiful "creature"

Chicas will size you up and get what they can out of you. You need to be up to the challenge. If you are not, then take your lumps but better learn from your mistakes...else you are destined for a life of misery...ala Patriot, Rolltide, etc etc

Patriot reminds of the fella in this oldie, a minor hit by The Fifth Dimension in 1968:



Carpet Man

When you see some puddles on the ground
You lay down so she don't have to walk around
You think that will protect her from the rain
But you'll never ever stop the pain
She walks all over you
You know she can, she knows she can
You're a carpet man, you're a carpet man

You take such care to keep that girl's feet clean
Like she's some kind of figurine
The world's so far below her it's not her scene
And so she uses you to stand between
She walks all over you
You know she can, she knows she can
You're a carpet man, you're a carpet man

I would think you'd get tired of hurtin'
Every now and then
It's no good down there that's for certain
And carpets do get thin
And that's when they have to be thrown away
That's what she'll say to herself some sunny day
And she'll say come to my wedding and of course you do
And then the groom and her will have a dance on you
She walks all over you
You know she can, she knows she can
You're a carpet man, you're a carpet man


PS: (IMHO!!) :)

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It serve you right to suffer
Serve you right to be alone
Serve you right to suffer
Serve you right to be alone
Because you're still livin'
In days done past and gone

Ev'rytime you see a woman
She make you think of yours
Yeah, ev'rytime you see a woman
She make you think of yours
And that's why, that's why, that's why
You can't keep from cryin'

Your doctor put you on
Milk, cream and alcohol
Your doctor put you on
Milk, cream and alcohol
He told you that's why
You can't sleep at night
From nerves, so bad
Yeah.

Ev'ry time you see a woman
She makes you think of yours
Ev'rytime you see a woman
She make you think of your own
She treated you so bad
You just couldn't keep from cryin'

Umm, mmm, mmm
Your life never be the same
Umm, umm, mmm
You're still livin' in the days
Done gone past and gone
And memories
Yeah-yeah

You can't live on
In that way
In the past
Them days
Is gone

Gone

John Lee Hooker

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:07 am 
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Thought about it.. decided to post then changed my mind and changed it again... Just my opinion for hard learned experence.. against better judgement and much reading here... go involved with a tica that worked.. had alot of ups and downs. yes is you do not live in CR it is almost impossible. Yes they can and do see you as a walking ATM.
When I put a stop to it, and kicked her to the curb and said next.. there was a big change.. yes she sees that she had it made and she, I do think is in love for real.. Had to stop the cell phone and everything else. knows that at any moment she needs to answer the new phone.. and I see the bill..
But, now where will this go??? Who knows.. you can have 10 cell phones and she can do things there that I can do here and the other not really know it..
But one thing I did learn is find some friends in CRT that are regulars at the DR/SL etc and they keep a look out for her.. If she shows, she is gone.. Now you ask why go to this trouble,, who knows.. where will it go.. who knows that.. But I know the game and the chances.. and at the moment am content to take the chance.
One thing is a relationship that is fatal with these kinds of girls.. NEVER show a weakness...
Many have said that some was too harsh in their commits about this... they just stated facts... it is not like there are not pages and pages of the same kind of stories with heart break endings..

SO, here is my advice to Patiroit.. take control or walk away.. and stay way from this one.. if you have baby with her be careful visiting CR, if you are not going to support it..
You will find that once you take control and stop her games, she will change or at least in attitude.. you will in time begin to feel different. and then you will feel that if she stays fine or if she leaves fine... It is a hard road.. but you only make it harder by you not being the driver..
NOW the most important advise.. do not fall in love with working ticas... friends yes, favorites yes, plant seeds yes, but the main thing is to come have a good time and then say NEXT... wish 8 months ago I had of taken my own advice...
There is a old saying but true.. A lepoard does not change its spots.. but you can train them sometimes.. you just get bitten every now and then.


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Patriot, well, I would have recommended cutting the ties a lot longer especially if you met her as a client. For now, at least you have cut s=ties and stopped sending money. As for the baby, I'd have 2 DNA tests to verify the first. Mi dos centavos!


BTW, I always found the best way to get over a break up. get back on the pony and start banging more and as many as you can for awhile. Great for the self confidence and fun too. Sophmoric? maybe but has always worked for me.

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This saga started in Sept 2007. You can get the background here... http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18941&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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