BonePony wrote:
"Being overly nice will only make them treat you worse."
Truer words have never been spoken!!!
Seabreeze wrote:
1- Chicas are whores out to make money by phucking gringos
2- RFM's (an extension of the session) are sent to guys they have phucked that they feel is a sucker for their lies of no food, baby sick,
baby in hospital etc
Sounds like you guys are in town to make damned sure that these bad womans get exactly what they deserve. Someone's got to do it, right?, and we sure can't count on the suckers...
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3- 95% of guys that send $$ to putas are suckers. There may be an exception, but it is rare
Can't exactly argue with that, although that's putting it a bit harshly. I'd be more inclined to say almost all the time it's a bad or at least unwise investment, and very often, based on what I hear and would assume, involves exaggerations or outright lies on their part. On the other hand, I am disinclined to be too harsh on other guys, when it comes to what they do related to women:
http://www.wingkong.net/media/video/indeed.asfCujo'S wrote:
Like I've said..best thing is to not be a guy who is RFM'able... RFM's isn't "part of the culture" or whatever else needs to be said to make it better for mongers..It's a clear sign she don't give a fugg what you think about it, and maybe (because you showed her u like her so much) you will send the money..
Because if she really liked you, she would be embarrassed to ask and know its ugly/disrespectful...
Interesting take on things. Although it's based on a pretty black-and-white assumption, "she don't give a fugg what you think" vs. "she really likes you", and I think there's an awful lot of ground between those points. In my one situation the chica is 34 years younger than me, so I'm not fool enough to think there's any possibility of anything but a money-based "romantic" situation between us. But I'm also not some fat Phuck who has missing teeth and doesn't shower while on vacation, and I treat her very well and never like a whore, nor do I ignore that fact that this is what she is. So I think she can and probably does like me, as a customer. She claims she loves me, but that's just part of the game, the GFE thing that she has every reason to believe I like. So I kind of doubt that she simply doesn't care what I think about her floating an RFM.
I also don't quite buy the notion that these chicas view an RFM as embarrassing and ugly or disrespectful, or that it isn't part of their subculture. To the contrary, based on what I read here, it seems incredibly common. We're talking about a place where you can have sex with a woman for $30, and the most beautiful one you can find for $100, which says something about supply and demand in that market and the economics of the place.
I've seen chicas sit in the bar at the SL night after night and not get a nibble. When I was down in April and at dinner with mi favorita her amiga mejor called and told her that she'd turned down a $60 offer and so was going home without a score there, and appeared to be looking for support for that decision, which seemed like a big deal. [Even though she'd come from the HLH, where she'd take $40 for a session without batting an eye, I'm sure. I guess that's just the flip side of all the talk here about how much one should and shouldn't pay, and the old real estate adage - it all comes down to location, location, location.]
What I'm saying is this is a business, and a tough one in some respects, and I can understand these chicas doing what they feel they have to in order to make a decent living. And they may feel totally entitled to that money, given what they give and with their perception of how well-off the guys are who come down there. Shit, a lot of them will flat-out steal from guys (although I don't think I've run into that kind yet); what would make asking for some money so ugly in comparison?
Now, that's not to say that gross lies and other efforts to repeatedly fleece some poor bastard aren't totally wrong. But that's not the nature of all RFMs, either.