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Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:47 am ]
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...When it was recorded first by one group and another artists' version is the hit. My first example is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBBY1aysmtg << recorded in '01; later on by Warren Haynes and that Macon/J'ville bunch
I really want you all to help me on this Thread--I believe to my soul you have other great examples ( reggae versions gleefully accepted IF they were recorded first--not hard to imagine with N.O. tunes).

Being a realist, I expect a chorus of yawns, but somebody cares...and may respond.

This just in: The same guy, 7 years later & grittier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... a8ZahBSQtU << Larry McCray may well be the Blues' future--not nearly well enough known

Author:  Capitan1962 [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:09 am ]
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Warren Haynes could do a cover of Rudolph the Rednose reindeer and it would totally rock. He is one of the most awesome musicians ever born. I love the song he does with Billy Gibbons (Broke down on the Brazos).

Author:  TexasNVegas [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:44 am ]
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Why does it have to be the first recording covered as opposed to a popular version that the band is 'covering'?

Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:19 pm ]
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For those intrigued by Brother Capitan1962's mention, here's Gov't Mule doing that tune in a record store appearance--sadly, no Mr. Gibbons in attendance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxgUjuOj ... re=related

Brother T&V brings up a good point--Elvis impersonators "cover" his style on songs even though Elvis may not have been the first to do a particular song.

Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:07 pm ]
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The term "cover" is usually used about pop music in any of its forms but classical songs are surely not barred. Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqObPtltpvA << Aaron Neville. Feeling bluesy and just want to get it all out? Start with this...

Author:  Capitan1962 [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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Unfortunately I cannot access youtube here where I am. But will watch the videos when I get to a location where I can.

Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:23 pm ]
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Yes, hijacking my own Thread but not another minute should pass without sharing this Janis tribute/cover by 2 of the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef-f-l2Pbn8 << Melissa Etheridge and Joss Stone with 2 of Janis' best

Author:  JazzboCR [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:56 pm ]
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This question really gets tangled and weird with a song like this--a Top 10 hit for 3 different artists in 2 different styles and even the first version put for sale was a "cover" of an example still in the can because deemed "unreleaseable": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Heard_It_Through_The_Grapevine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9yLp0g26Q << Marvin Gaye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0t7Z8MmsJE << Gladys Knight and the Pips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk3ky3riytI << Creedence Clearwater Revival

Author:  JazzboCR [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 am ]
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Getting metaphysical, Pt. 2 OK now you have two equal collaborators on a tune, both record versions at about the same time, and the greater-known person's version stays in the can. What is the "cover"? Case in point with a second vid of them playing it together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PHsqnG-qI << JJ Cale--charter member of the Oklahoma Music Mob, along with Leon Russell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WUeOEkl270 << Mr. Cale and Mr. Clapton doing 2 tunes
Entered under protest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsIqEq9OFxE << I shouldn't kvetch--this version doubtless bought JJ Cale a nice house, even though it was not the monster hit it should have been. Lynyrd Skynyrd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wGSugAfZk << real swell country track by Buck Norris, a nice picker

Author:  JazzboCR [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:16 pm ]
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Another way to approach the question: When an artist takes a piece (whether or not they originally did it) and totally re-imagines it, is that a cover? Case in point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUdlaLWSVM << Eric Clapton--the first Layla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvNIivHdy0Q << Mr. Clapton w/ Wynton Marsalis
Bettye LaVette has a whole album recasting Brit Rock faves--covers? I don't think so:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/interpret ... 650/review
And didn't Ray Charles do a pretty hip job on some C&W classics?
http://www.allmusic.com/album/modern-so ... 680/review

Just for fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-cz0LUV5qs&feature=fvst W/lyrics in Spanish onscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGcUl6vv ... re=related << period perf vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq49lmtEeI BES version by Gregg Martinez--South Louisiana and it's ON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IopMdolpN1w << reggae version by UB40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4TIZ_R4cm0 << smooth jazz by Gerald Alston

Author:  Boynton [ Mon May 14, 2012 9:14 pm ]
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Author:  JazzboCR [ Mon May 14, 2012 11:44 pm ]
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Brother Boynton chose a great song to demonstrate (tho' he has to share credit w/ Brother Irish Drifter on the 1st tune). You know a song has good bones, has an "openness" when it lends itself to such disparate treatments that work well. Waitin' for the reggae version--I have this to tide me over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... 5EYIJmixPw << Neil Young and Bruuuce--grand fun and spot on.

Author:  Boynton [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:04 pm ]
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Author:  JazzboCR [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:12 pm ]
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How about if 1/2 a split-up duo recuts a hit? a case in point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Q80F1fuQA << Frida of ABBA with a superb a capella group--The Real Group--from Sweden. Look for more by them on YouTube e.g, their Basie medley.

Author:  JazzboCR [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:49 pm ]
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Boynton wrote:
Not reggae, but one more cover version http://youtu.be/OWgO9-AIROI

Yeah, a bit political in an election year (ask Richard Lugar); here's my pick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYvt6ZZ9 ... re=related < I'm Jazzbo and I know it--The Muppets
or maybe this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEUkTYog ... re=related << Alvin and the
Chipmunks

last one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjbLYXn ... re=related
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