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I hate polls, so if you want just post an opinion.

Who do you want to see in the BCS title game? Do you think TCU deserves a shot to play for the title?

I would like to see Oregon/ Auburn just to see both ofenses go at it. Not sure Vegas could set an Over/ Under line high enough!

As for TCU, no phucking way Jose Boise St.'s loss, for me, did more to hurt TCU than their crappy ass schedule. Go the extra mile here and just LOOK at Auburn's schedule, or LSU's, or even the Wisconsin's or Ohio State's for that matter. It is about the week in week out grind of the BCS Automatic Qualifying conferences( except maybe the Big Least) that matters here. Is there ANY way TCU or Boise does NOT have 2 or 3 losses playing in the Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 10? We won't even go there on how many losses if they played in the SEC

If Auburn loses this week close, I would still vote them in over TCU. If they lost big, I would have to vote for Wisconsin. If both Oregon and Auburn lose, gimme Wisconsin and Stanford! Tell me I'm wrong.

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as an aside, I did go look at one power rating of schedules website, and it shows VaTech at 10-1......didn't they lose to some girls school in Virginia the week after the Boise game?


http://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo ... ech-hokies


or do loses to girl teams not count?

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I also would like to see Oregon/Auburn which is exactly why it won't work out that way....



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The Goons of the Big Ten should be in the Champ game -- nothing like a nice long ( and boring) game of 57 straight off tackle runs to get the crowd excited.. There is nothing better then watching the other teams QB sitting on the bench reading a book when the goons offense is working to make one want to grab anther case of cold beer for the next set of downs.

Does not matter who they play, if they can not stop the run with less then 9 guys then might as well not bother to show up.

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TCU is going to join the Big East conference which currently is one of the automatic BCS qualifiers. Not sure how long that will last however as I recall that will come up for review in 2014 and there is a lot of sentiment to drop the Big East from that elite status.

Big East gets bigger, adds TCU for 2012 season

By STEPHEN HAWKINS, AP Sports Writer Nov 29, 9:07 pm EST

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP)—TCU is getting out of future debates about whether the Horned Frogs deserve to be in a BCS game. They are joining a league with automatic access.

The Frogs won’t have to be a BCS buster when they move to the Big East Conference, starting with the 2012 season. Win their new league and they will be guaranteed a spot in one of the big-money games.

In the latest restructuring of the college football landscape, TCU’s board of trustees unanimously approved an invitation Monday to join the Big East in football and all other sports. The move from the Mountain West Conference becomes official July 1, 2012.

TCU athletic director Chris Del Conte said gaining automatic-qualifying status “was a big factor” in the move and gives the Horned Frogs “the greatest opportunity to compete for the national championship.”

The Big East, currently with eight football teams, has one of six automatic BCS slots.

“Access got easier, not the road,” said Frogs coach Gary Patterson, whose third-ranked Frogs (12-0) wrapped up their second consecutive undefeated regular season and Mountain West title with a 66-17 win at New Mexico on Saturday.

TCU is third in the BCS standings—the highest-ranked non-automatic qualifying team—and is in line for a chance to play for the national championship if Auburn or Oregon lose next weekend. The Frogs likely will play in the Rose Bowl if Auburn and Oregon both win.

“Who would have thought five years ago that the guaranteed fallback position is, you’re going to the Rose Bowl, and one loss you’re in the national championship?” Del Conte told a room filled with supporters and staff. “We’re going to Pasadena, let’s get fired up. We’re going to the Big East, let’s get fired up. … It’s a great time to be a Frog.”

The pending departure of TCU continues a big shuffle for the Mountain West, which last summer announced that Boise State was leaving the WAC to join its league in 2011. That was expected to bolster the strength of the MWC and put the league in better position for possibly gaining an automatic BCS berth in the future. But now so much has changed.

Utah is leaving the Mountain West for the expanded Pac-12 and BYU is going independent. Fresno State and Nevada, and maybe Hawaii, are going from the WAC to the MWC in 2012 after TCU leaves.

“Today’s intercollegiate athletics environment is very fluid,” Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson said in a statement. “Our board of directors and directors of athletics, as they have throughout the history of the MWC and with even more focus recently, will continue to analyze the landscape and chart our course in the context of ongoing changes.”

Thompson said there were “conversations already under way with potential future members.”

Del Conte said losing BYU and Utah was a “significant blow” to the Mountain West.

“It was not the same league that we joined,” he said. “It’s not the same home that we bought, it’s not same home we were invited to, and things changed, the landscape changed.”

Boise State president Bob Kustra called TCU’s decision disappointing “but not entirely surprising given the stakes of automatic qualification in the BCS bowl system and relative lack of access for non-AQ conferences.” He said the Mountain West was still a good fit for his school.

TCU could help the MWC land an automatic bid to the BCS after the Frogs are gone.

TCU’s excellent 2010 (and it’s 2011 performance) will count toward the MWC’s resume when the conferences are evaluated after the 2011 season.

BCS officials have said a non-automatic qualifying conference could earn an automatic bid for the 2012 and ’13 seasons.

And if the Big East’s BCS bid comes under scrutiny when the next TV contract ends after the 2013 season, TCU’s 2010 season will also count toward the Big East’s resume.

“It’s too soon to speculate about what the BCS thresholds will be for the 2015 and beyond, but it seems likely that TCU’s move will enhance the Big East’s position,” BCS executive director Bill Hancock said in an e-mail.

The Big East has schools in nine of the nation’s 35 largest media markets and will being adding Dallas/Fort Worth, the fifth largest.

“Located in one of the top five media markets in the country, TCU also enables the Big East to extend its media footprint, which already encompasses more than a quarter of the country,” league commissioner John Marinatto said.

The only current Big East team ranked in the AP poll is No. 23 West Virginia (8-3, 4-2 Big East), which is 24th in the BCS standings. Connecticut (7-4, 4-2) could get the league’s automatic BCS spot.

TCU might not be headed to a BCS game without Boise State’s loss Friday night in overtime at Nevada. Had the Broncos remained undefeated, there was a real possibility that the Broncos could have passed the Frogs in the BCS standings and been the only non-AQ team to get into one of the top-level bowls.

“This is a great move,” Patterson said. “I’ll say this, we don’t seem to get bored around this place. … The one last mark people have held against in recruiting is that we were not an automatic qualifier. Now that’s been erased.”

TCU was a BCS buster for the first time last season, then lost to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.

The Frogs have won 25 consecutive regular-season games, and 38 of 41 overall. The only losses in that span were in the Fiesta Bowl, and games at Oklahoma and Utah.

“Coach Patterson’s done a great job there and has brought an awful lot of exposure to themselves just because of the success that they’ve had,” South Florida coach Skip Holtz said. “Probably over the last five years, (they) have been one of the leaders in this whole BCS busters thing, and they’ve done it on a consistent basis. They’ve proven that they can compete at that level, that they’re deserving of having the opportunity to be in a BCS conference.”

Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich believes TCU is “a great addition” to the Big East, and has no problem with the league expanding so far west.

“Hey, the Big 12’s got 10, the Big 10’s got 12,” Jurich said. “Why should we be any different?”

With all TCU sports moving to the Big East, it will create a 17-team basketball league.

Marinatto said the league was aware of the logistical issues associated with having 17 basketball teams and nine football teams and that those issues would be addressed. He wouldn’t discuss the possibility of even more schools being added to the league outside of what the league previously stated.

Villanova, which won the FCS national championship last season, has been considering moving up in classification in football and joining the league in which their basketball teams and other sports are already a member.

“We are excited about the addition of TCU, as they bring a great deal of value to the Big East,” Villanova AD Vince Nicastro said Monday. “However, our timeframe has not changed. We are continuing to move forward with our comprehensive evaluation of FBS level football, and are still targeting a decision by the spring of 2011.”

The Big East will be the fourth conference for TCU since the Southwest Conference broke apart after the 1995 season and the Frogs weren’t among the Texas schools that became part of the Big 12.

TCU was in the WAC from 1996-2000 before going to Conference USA for four seasons and then joining the Mountain West in 2005.

AP Sports Writers John Kekis in Syracuse, N.Y., Will Graves in Louisville, Ky., Dan Gelston in Philadelphia, Tim Booth in Seattle and Ralph D. Russo in New York contributed to this report.

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