Great article Orange. And I gotta say that this guy is spot on! He's obviously a very smart gringo, and he explained his rebuttal to her perfectly! My hat's off to him!
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| Author: | Orange [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:34 pm ] |
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This was forwarded to me by a buddy from work. It was a post on NYC Craigslist personals section. I love how the responder calls her a depreciating asset. The look on her face must've been fucken priceless. What am I doing wrong? Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all. Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level? Here are my questions specifically: - Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms -What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings -Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)? - Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there? - Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out? - How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth. PostingID: 432279810 THE ANSWER Dear Pers-431649184: I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it. Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful! So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you! So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage. Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout. By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation. With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know. |
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| Author: | Mucho Gusto [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:40 pm ] |
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Great article Orange. And I gotta say that this guy is spot on! He's obviously a very smart gringo, and he explained his rebuttal to her perfectly! My hat's off to him!
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| Author: | Bktuna [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:40 pm ] |
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Laughing so hard I could cry. I actually appreciate her honesty but would not want to marry her. BKTUNA I am never going home |
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| Author: | Bktuna [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:45 pm ] |
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Had a similar depreciating asset conversation a few years ago with several financial buddies. We were all in mid thirties and three of the four recently single. We were all doing well financially and realized that somehow we were "better looking" than when we were 22 and broke and married for the first times. We also discussed our wives movement in the opposite direction. Conversation led to a depreciating asset versus earning asset and a lease versus buy discussion regarding women. In our cases, we figured that the intersection of the two lines was around 33 years old.  
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| Author: | Orange [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:49 pm ] |
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Quote: Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty
hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you! Hilarious last line! 
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| Author: | Witling [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:49 pm ] |
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Not only do I totally agree with his assessment but I have always looked at having Ch*ldren along the same lines, i.e. very little return on investment. But that's just me. |
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| Author: | El Silencioso [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:10 pm ] |
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Would love to hear her further response
If there was one which I highly doubt
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| Author: | El Viejo [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:43 pm ] |
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My female friend from next door grew up to marry one of the wealthiest, most famous men in NYC. He was instantly recognizable to anyone in the US who watches TV. She married well and was widowed within the past year, but I never got the impression that she achieved real happiness. Life is a crapshoot. |
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| Author: | El Ciego [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:12 pm ] |
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I'm not in the same intellectual position as you business types, but let me put a spin on this you might not have considered. You are looking, as did the respondent only at one dimension, one facet of her viability as an investment: her looks. Yes, this is an important aspect, but not the only one. Flow-charting this, or bar-graphing it would be difficult. Here's where I see this asset could actually appreciate. Oh, and granted she was selling herself mainly on age and appearance, but note that the respondent didn't address her class, education etc. 1. Education. If she has a good mind (and judging from her prose, she does), her educational level will increase. This can be valuable to the investor. 2. Sexual skills. If she's interested in sex and enjoys it, her skills will only improve with time. I have had sex with women in their sixties and seventies, and believe me when I tell you all that you don't know what you're missing. If you're only concerned with looks in a sex partner, you might as well buy an artificial vagina or blowup doll and keep your eyes fixed on a porno mag or movie while you masturbate. 3. Her family's assets. She may well inherit. Is her daddy/uncle/grandfather rich? She could, even without a career bring something to the table here. 4. Kindness. A wife does more for her man than sex, including caring for him when he's ill. If we marry a much younger woman, chances are almost 100% that one day she'll end up literally wiping your ass. If you think about it, there are many assets that she could bring to a marriage beyond her youth and looks. Look, I'm no investment wiz, but I do read the prospectus carefully beyond looking at the earnings record of the stock or fund in which I'm interested. 
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| Author: | El Ciego [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
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I'm not in the same intellectual position as you business types, but let me put a spin on this you might not have considered. You are looking, as did the respondent only at one dimension, one facet of her viability as an investment: her looks. Yes, this is an important aspect, but not the only one. Flow-charting this, or bar-graphing it would be difficult. Here's where I see this asset could actually appreciate. Oh, and granted she was selling herself mainly on age and appearance, but note that the respondent didn't address her class, education etc. 1. Education. If she has a good mind (and judging from her prose, she does), her educational level will increase. This can be valuable to the investor. 2. Sexual skills. If she's interested in sex and enjoys it, her skills will only improve with time. I have had sex with women in their sixties and seventies, and believe me when I tell you all that you don't know what you're missing. If you're only concerned with looks in a sex partner, you might as well buy an artificial vagina or blowup doll and keep your eyes fixed on a porno mag or movie while you masturbate. 3. Her family's assets. She may well inherit. Is her daddy/uncle/grandfather rich? She could, even without a career bring something to the table here. 4. Kindness. A wife does more for her man than sex, including caring for him when he's ill. If we marry a much younger woman, chances are almost 100% that one day she'll end up literally wiping your ass. If you think about it, there are many assets that she could bring to a marriage beyond her youth and looks. Look, I'm no investment wiz, but I do read the prospectus carefully beyond looking at the earnings record of the stock or fund in which I'm interested.
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| Author: | BrownCow [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:42 pm ] |
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El Ciego wrote: I'm not in the same intellectual position as you business types, but let me put a spin on this you might not have considered.
You are looking, as did the respondent only at one dimension, one facet of her viability as an investment: her looks. Yes, this is an important aspect, but not the only one. Flow-charting this, or bar-graphing it would be difficult. Here's where I see this asset could actually appreciate. Oh, and granted she was selling herself mainly on age and appearance, but note that the respondent didn't address her class, education etc. 1. Education. If she has a good mind (and judging from her prose, she does), her educational level will increase. This can be valuable to the investor. 2. Sexual skills. If she's interested in sex and enjoys it, her skills will only improve with time. I have had sex with women in their sixties and seventies, and believe me when I tell you all that you don't know what you're missing. If you're only concerned with looks in a sex partner, you might as well buy an artificial vagina or blowup doll and keep your eyes fixed on a porno mag or movie while you masturbate. 3. Her family's assets. She may well inherit. Is her daddy/uncle/grandfather rich? She could, even without a career bring something to the table here. 4. Kindness. A wife does more for her man than sex, including caring for him when he's ill. If we marry a much younger woman, chances are almost 100% that one day she'll end up literally wiping your ass. If you think about it, there are many assets that she could bring to a marriage beyond her youth and looks. Look, I'm no investment wiz, but I do read the prospectus carefully beyond looking at the earnings record of the stock or fund in which I'm interested. Hey EC, I understand where you're coming from, BUT you don't have to look at the 60yr old in the eyes as you C*m... Unless it's someone like raquel welch, I'm not interested in 60+... |
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| Author: | Cariden [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:57 am ] |
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and the girly answer is. see above... |
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| Author: | TonyTC [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:47 pm ] |
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QuickBlueFox wrote: Hey EC, I understand where you're coming from, BUT you don't have to look at the 60yr old in the eyes as you C*m...
Unless it's someone like raquel welch, I'm not interested in 60+... I'll take three 20's over one 60 any day.... OR two 30s.... OR one 20 and one 40 OR two 21s and and one 18... Or two 18s one 24... OR two 19s and one 22... OR four ?, no not on this board... |
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| Author: | BrownCow [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:00 pm ] |
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TonyTC wrote: QuickBlueFox wrote: Hey EC, I understand where you're coming from, BUT you don't have to look at the 60yr old in the eyes as you C*m... Unless it's someone like raquel welch, I'm not interested in 60+... I'll take three 20's over one 60 any day.... OR two 30s.... OR one 20 and one 40 OR two 21s and and one 18... Or two 18s one 24... OR two 19s and one 22... OR four ?, no not on this board... Yes, BUT, the question becomes, would you take 3 60's for 1 20? etcetera... |
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| Author: | BrownCow [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:00 pm ] |
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TonyTC wrote: QuickBlueFox wrote: Hey EC, I understand where you're coming from, BUT you don't have to look at the 60yr old in the eyes as you C*m... Unless it's someone like raquel welch, I'm not interested in 60+... I'll take three 20's over one 60 any day.... OR two 30s.... OR one 20 and one 40 OR two 21s and and one 18... Or two 18s one 24... OR two 19s and one 22... OR four ?, no not on this board... Yes, BUT, the question becomes, would you take 3 60's for 1 20? etcetera... |
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