Nice find.......
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| Author: | Mrpublic [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Naked Tica Against CAFTA |
http://www.vimeo.com/239634 |
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| Author: | El Silencioso [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:55 pm ] |
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Nice find.......
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| Author: | Novice [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:17 am ] |
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Ya good find…This could definitely go in the “Things Muy Tico†section. Kinda cool in a way - the spirit of independencia of the Ticos – actually one of the reasons I like to spend time in Costa Rica. That little film says it all really, about their spirit and consciences. Lost Cause though…. After the rally how long is the lines at McDonalds, KFC and Burger King? Oh ya we need to pick up some stuff at Price Smart hahaha. Sorry Ticos – It is/has happening whether you like it or not. Welcome to the global community and whatever that means. Your tidy and cheap health care will go to crap; utilities bills will skyrocket/services improve and the lines at the banks will disappear miraculously Ouch, weren’t those the days – the Good Old Days… Dear Ticos: As long as you don’t let the moral majority in you will be fine. If They try getting’ in I say fire up the old fort and blast ‘em back out! |
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| Author: | Irish Drifter [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:22 am ] |
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Don"t know where you dug that up from Mrpublic. It was run and killed months ago. 
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| Author: | Bktuna [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:31 am ] |
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I think that TLC aka Cafta will not get the votes in a peoples referendum. It is complicated and the rabble will follow the anti-TLC movement. BKTUNA I am never going home |
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| Author: | Irish Drifter [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:33 am ] |
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Bktuna wrote: I think that TLC aka Cafta will not get the votes in a peoples referendum.
It is complicated and the rabble will follow the anti-TLC movement. BKTUNA I am never going home You giving any odds and booking any action on that?
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| Author: | Bktuna [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:44 am ] |
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ID it just seems to me that typically free trade agreements are not popular at the average Joe level and are typically voted in by a legislative body. I am npot sure Nafta would have passed a general referendum in the US. My personal belief is that TLC if passed will create an upheaval here. The govt is very socialist leaning and the change will be a shock. Two major industries Insurance and Telcom will go through massive upheaval. Long term it should be good for CR. Consumer prices are out of whack with income and free trade should help. BKTUNA I am never going home |
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| Author: | Bilko [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:27 pm ] |
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Bktuna wrote: Long term it should be good for CR.
It seems to me that 'long term' benefits are always promised to [potential] opponents while benefits for supporters are always short term. They'll be pie... in the sky... by and by... |
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| Author: | Irish Drifter [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:11 am ] |
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Bktuna wrote: I think that TLC aka Cafta will not get the votes in a peoples referendum. It is complicated and the rabble will follow the anti-TLC movement. BKTUNA I am never going home BK, you may be 100% correct. However the results of a poll were in an article this morning in Inside Costa Rica which purportedly showed Quote: The latest poll indicates that more than 50% of the decided voters will vote in favour of the trade deal while 35% oppose it. .
We all know how polls can vary widely depending on numerous factors and there is no attribution given as to who conducted this poll. If you believed the polls in the last CR presidential election there was no reason to vote as Arias was going to win in a landslide he won by a razor thin margin. If it is correct, and the undecided vote is similar to the decided voter results, TLC will win big. |
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| Author: | SurfTown [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:16 pm ] |
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That sure was an ugly girl for that stint If she is supposed to be so pure in innocent before the corporations they should have got a pretty one without a stupid tramp stamp. All they have to ask is do they want to see the improvements mexico has had due to free trade or be left befind as a third world country. I can understand if they want to live with dirt floors and no hot water and run in the jungle naked and have no economic development, there are some people that want to do that... and thats cool whatever..... but I doubt the majority will vote that way. That is propaganda for the poor at its finest, they incoporate bible images of eve and of her taking the apple, then pan in on nature shots got to give them credit for the propaganda and knowing how to sway their indigent catholic target. |
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| Author: | Bilko [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:28 pm ] |
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If Mexico is your poster Ch*ld for NAFTA success, you're better off with an ugly naked chica. |
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| Author: | BangBang57 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sorry if I am getting too political BUT! |
Surftown your coments are very tipical of so many in the US--if it is good for the US, it must be good for everyone else-- In actuality, the reason for dirt floors, cold water, etc is because gringos have done so much to "improve" this country. Things like putting housing out of the reach of most Ticos, an electrical 200a currcit breaker (made by a US company here in CR selling for $60 here and $30 in the states, or Walmart buying the 3 largest grocery chains here and raising the prices 10% on everything the next week. YOU CALL THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT??? I personally found the vidio to be very original, imaginative, and creative. And I spend a lot of time with Ticos here and even thou I have not taken a poll, I have yet to find a single Tico in favor of TLC. And where the HELL are all these improvements in Mexico???? I am sure the average Mexican has not seen any improvement; unless he is living and working illegally in the USA. Mexico has one of the highest levels of poverity in the world and also has (because of free trade) the wealthist man in the world |
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| Author: | SurfTown [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sorry if I am getting too political BUT! |
BangBang57 wrote: Surftown your coments are very tipical of so many in the US--if it is good for the US, it must be good for everyone else-- In actuality, the reason for dirt floors, cold water, etc is because gringos have done so much to "improve" this country. Things like putting housing out of the reach of most Ticos, an electrical 200a currcit breaker (made by a US company here in CR selling for $60 here and $30 in the states, or Walmart buying the 3 largest grocery chains here and raising the prices 10% on everything the next week. YOU CALL THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT???
I personally found the vidio to be very original, imaginative, and creative. And I spend a lot of time with Ticos here and even thou I have not taken a poll, I have yet to find a single Tico in favor of TLC. And where the HELL are all these improvements in Mexico???? I am sure the average Mexican has not seen any improvement; unless he is living and working illegally in the USA. Mexico has one of the highest levels of poverity in the world and also has (because of free trade) the wealthist man in the world Bang Bang your perception is clouded and just plain wrong if you dont think CR economically/developmentally is better off due to US influences, except if you are a green environmentalist against development...which is fine if that is your stance I can appreciate that and people yearning for the way it was with dirt floors and all, go for it whatever floats your boat. Yet I will admit influence of american culture does not improve their culture that may be true. AND Yes Mexico is better off now if you want to argue otherwise so be it, you just want to play devils advocate to argue. With NAFTA even the poor or average mexican now has a shot at making a very good living and yes that is improvement. Also Mexicos middle class (before NAFTA Mexico did not even have a middle class, little history lesson for you bang bang.... research your facts before you spew garbage), and upper class are exploding which has a ripple efffect on the economy that does make its way down to the poor in some way or another. Further you point out the difference in price on a 200a circut breaker....well the difference is because of the tax the CR gov puts on it, the trade treaty would seek to eliminate these taxes and equal the prices, yet your dim witted reasoning does not see this, instead you foolishly use this point to try to make your argument when it actually dispells it. That video was custom made for simpletons with little to no education and Bang Bang you took the bate hook line and sinker. |
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| Author: | BangBang57 [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:09 am ] |
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Surftown, This is not the place to argue the pros and cons of a political issue, BUT based on what you are saying, you are the one that is being nieve, confused, narrow minded(no; closed minded). and JUST PLAIN WRONG. That is unless you work for the government or own a business that is getting rich expoliding latins.. OH! I know the US mentallity says "if it is good for the US, it is good for those poor 3rd world countries" Or "only the US knows what is good for the rest of the world" and YOU wonder why the vast majority of the rest of the world hates and is afraid of the USA?? If you are old enough to remember why we (the USA) hated and were afraid of communist Russia when they were the other "super power"; then you should realize the rest of the world looks at the US today the same way we looked at Russia then "trying to dictate and rule the rest of the world in the name of democracy (instead of communisim) And I know most Americans do not see it this way but the rest of the world DOES!!! As for Mexico, I spent 25 years working with the Mexican people. AND if you think there is a middle class in Mexico or that the average Mexican is better off post NAFTA, you are either more nieve and uninformed than I thought OR as i said earlier, you are getting rich off of them. The high taxes here are on imported products, not on tico made products. Sure there is a heafty tax on the breakers because the company is forgien owned, but the tax is on all the products produced not just the ones sold here. Until you have lived and worked in 3rd world countries, don't tell me my perception is clouded |
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| Author: | AngryPirate [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:02 pm ] |
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I'd hit it. |
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