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how appropriate that a discussion of Obama would be in the joke section of the board.

I'm working from memory but I'll give it a go: After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Bush authorized the NSA to monitor, without warrants, phone calls, e-mails, Internet activity, and text messaging, and other communication involving any party believed by the NSA to be outside the U.S., even if the other end of the communication lies within the U.S. It went further, even to monitoring communications from American servicemen in the war zone to their families back in the US.

Why is this important to us? Because the right to privacy is a basic right and one of the cornerstones of our democracy: freedom from the prying eyes of the Government unless their is probable cause for the action.

In an attempt to protect our basic rights while protecting the citizenry from terrorist activities, it was established by law that the administration could monitor suspected terrorist activities as long as they procured a warrant from a special secret court, before or after the event. Bush ignored this law, a violation of his oath of office.

Why did the administration feel the need to circumvent the law and the court? Because they never intended to limit the invasion of privacy. Instead, they set super-computers loose on all communications searching for key words (which were left to the discretion of the secret operators who did things like entering intimate language so they could get a kick out of listening to intimate conversations between the servicemen overseas and their wives and lovers. Quaint.)

This wide scale violation of the rights of US citizens is rife with opportunities for abuse. Imagine what an advantage it would be politically or in business to know what your competitor is thinking or planning. Whoever is running the listening program has carte blanche to pursue any information they would like without oversight, without any accounting and without the benefit of law.

You may argue that the ends justified the means in this instance. Even if I agreed with that (I don't), as I said, the precedence that this sets opens a Pandora's Box that cannot be undone. Now, the President can do whatever he wants, in secret, without oversight, in direct opposition to existing laws and the Constitution at will. For some of the Obama haters, this should curl the toes!

By the way, this surveillance is ongoing.

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Oh BS, stop being so defensive. By the same token, if I put a plan in place that overwhelmingly benefits one group over the other that would also be racist.
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Tica Fan:
Not being defensive bro. Your thoughts are wack

If the man was saying one thing and doing another your words would have some merit. But he has been in office for less than a month and you already have hime pegged


Compromise with who Bushes party was jamming bills down our throat for 6 years

You are more mistrustful of a smart fellow That says alot

You keep quoting the constitution but have hardly read it :If you have 1 drop of black blood in you, you are black so says the constitution. BTW Obama calls himself a black man why should we argue with that

Obama was a constitutional law prof in Chi town. I think we should all trust he has read the document

NYG

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Obama and McCain voted for FISA in the Senate

NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
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Ok this thread has legs. I would rather discuss the status of Florida's balls, what are you drinking now, or the status of my balls. But you all insists so...

Here is what Kramer said in Michael Richard's defense agrument...

"Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make
a good point. This was his defense speech in court after
making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very
interesting points... Someone finally said it...
How many are actually paying Attention to this? There are
African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab
Americans, etc. And then here are just Americans.You pass me
on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me
'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
'Whitey,' 'Caveman' .. And that's OK.But
when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger,
Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a
racist. You say that Whites commit a lot of violence against
you... So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to
live? You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You
have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have
Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET...If
we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be
racists..If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us
racists. If we Had White History Month, we'd be
racists.If we had any organization for only whites to
'advance'Our, Lives we'd be racists. We have a
Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.Wonder
who pays for that?? A white woman could not be in the Miss
Black American pageant, But any color can be in the Miss
America pageant.If we had a college fund that only gave
white students Scholarships. You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US.
Yet if there were 'White colleges' That would be a
racist college.. In the Million Man March, you believed that
you were marching For your race and rights.If we marched for
our race and rights, you would call us Racists.You are proud
to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you'reNot
afraid to announce it.But when we announce our white pride,
you call us racist!You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us
But, when a white Police officer shoots a black gang member
or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and
posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. I am
proud... But you call me a racist.Why is it that only whites
can be racists?There is nothing improper about this e-mail.
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on. I
sadly Don't think many will. That's why we have lost
most of OUR RIGHTS in This Country. We won't stand up
for ourselves!BE PROUD TO BE WHITE! It's not a crime
yet .. But getting real close! "

Another reason why I never watched one Seinfeld episode

How can you have a show based in NYC and have no hispanics or blacks in it


NYG

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Lot's of jews and other ethnics are featured. Larry David is one funny head case.

You really should watch the episode "Elaine Dancing". Some funny stuff about a white woman dancing. Bro if we can't laugh at this stuff it will bring us down. Chill amigo

The Mexican often refer to white Norte Americanos as Boleo. Boleo is a sub roll - "white bread, no taste, can't dance"

NYG

Kramer's lawyer was black and the one of the gay furniture thieves was hispanic.

Ciaociao

Don't ask why the horse is blind grasshopper, just load the wagon

"Seinfeld" was a Jewish comedy about a group of Jewish people. It made fun of stereotypical neurotic people arguing about nothing: "...you double-dipped!"

Yes, NYG, Obama could be Christ himself and large portion of America would love to see him fail because he is a Democrat or because he is not a white man or both. Very sad.

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Did not know never watched
Just read reviews and listened to other folks
Never found Jerry Funny in stand up so I never was interested.


FFF I do think if we can laugh more at ourselves we would be a planet

NYG

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I guess I didn't make my point since I have said it 10 Million Times but nobody seems to listen THERE WILL BE NO I MEAN NO POLICITICAL DISCUSSION on this site. I don't care of its in the Smack talk section or not.

DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. Obviously its not hitting home.

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Laughter is the best medicine, amigo.

Excuse the Interruption Tomas, but I would like to submit the following to this thread...

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Abe Lincoln

As a follow-up to my 8 February post on the lessons we should learn from their handling of a similar economic debacle, read what the Japanese have to say on the subject. The first paragraph is the kicker, concluding with," ...more money, faster." Essentially a lesson we should have learned in the Great Depression, which faltered when there was a lack of nerve and political will to keep the Treasury spigot on long enough--the worst year of the Depression was arguably 1937, when there was a recession inside the Depression. A failure of willpower pure and simple and denial of the roots of the problem, how deep the rot had set in and what it would take to actually fix it. Ignore history at your (and our) peril.

www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/business/economy/13yen.html

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