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Miamiheller
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:16 pm 
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look its not like it was changed to root for an up and coming golden state team. it was like everyone wearing bulls gear during the jordan years. where are all those guys now?
the kings won a stanley cup in LA and everyone started wearing kings gear. i congratulated the fans because even though i'm an LA guy and fan somewhat of hockey i've probably been to five games in my life. it was their win and not mine imho so i just enjoyed it.
to me a fan is someone who goes to games and watches through thick and thin waiting for it to get better and talking shit about what to do next etc. of course people are going to cheer for winners but i thought PR was old school. i guess if you move to that city its different. i can love kevin durant but i'm not happy if okc wins and only hope one day he signs w the lakers.
i could never be an angel, giant, a's, padres fan since i grew up a Dodger fan and thats just it. i did root for the angels when they beat the giants in the series. I don't expect you to understand if the only rush you get from sports is cheering for the winners. again teho
cmon Bill i know you're reading this :lol:

Again with the strawmen. :mrgreen:

Look, there are people who change teams almost as often as they change underwear. We get it - those people are front runners.

But so what? They have the right to root for whomever they want whenever they want. It not like they're hurting someone by doing this.

They don't have to fit someone else's criteria of what constitutes a "real" fan versus a "fake(?)" fan.

If someone wants to root for the Lakers AND the Clippers, so what?
If they like Alabama and Auburn, y qué?
If they root for the Red Sox and the Yankees, their only problem comes when the teams play each other.... or if they attend a game wearing a Yankees jersey and a Red Sox cap, which will probably earn them a beating from both fan bases.

A guy getting beat up and almost killed because he went to a Dodgers game wearing a Giants jersey just shows we have a lot of misguided folks with weird priorities in this country.

But then again, panem et circum has shown itself to be an effective mass palliative from the dawn of history.

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and some people are schizoid what can you do?
i'm not trying to make the "real" fan argument but if the shoe fits...
all i know is i was born a Dodger fan and pops took me to the games so the thought of cheering for any other franchise is impossible.
Jerry Buss was the greatest owner in sports history arguably and i witnessed the lakers do massive damage to the rest of the league for years. now its going to be lean for a little while. oh well i'm still sitting here watching the thunder pound em right now.
maybe i should just become a thunder fan and i can be a winner yeehaw! :idea:
hell i'm going out and buying the shirt.
btw the giants fans actually DID kill a guy for being a dodger fan last year.
at the end of a big loss its over for me. i don't punch the gf or the wall.

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maybe i should just become a thunder fan and i can be a winner yeehaw! :idea:

You just hit upon my issue with your argument.

You're assuming all people who follow a different team do so because "they want to be a winner".

Not always true.

Case in point: PR. He started to follow and root for the Heat when he moved to South Florida. Now, you may not remember but the Heat were TERRIBLE in the late 80s and the 90s. They only started to be a contender when Riley took over as coach, signed Zo and traded for Tim Hardaway. And even so they never won anything until the Shaq and Wade show. Yet Frank kept rooting for the Heat.

Personally, I cheer for the Lakers (unless they're playing the Heat) because I used to live in LA, because of their storied history, their Hall of Famers, it's a classy organization (at least it used to be), and so on. I despise KobME but that doesn't mean I hate the Lakers. Quite the contrary.

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i'm not saying ALL do but MOST do. everyone loves a winner.
will be interesting with the knicks signing jackson.
things could turn around there quickly and lebron could leave for free agency.
lots of things can happen.
then you guys can be knicks fans. :D

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that would be like you suddenly becoming a giant fan the last few years...were you an orange and black fan back then? :D :oops:


Back when? 1950's? Before my time amigo. White Sox are in the American League FYI so I think your analogy holds more weight if you were to ask was I a Yankees fan. I am not sure what the animosity is between White sox and Cubs fans... maybe El S can educate us here. But I could NEVER support the hated Yankees.



Let's just say REAL Chicago baseball fans are CUBS fans... Good or bad we are diehards.. We don't flip teams because we move out of state or change locales.. LIFELONG is what a diehard is and will always be..

GO Cubbies !!!
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At least the Heat, Lakers, Dodgers have won titles in recent history, Those of us with roots in Northeast Ohio sports haven't won a title since 1964. To make it worse, the idiot owner moved the team to Baltimore and they win a title.
I went to school at Ohio State and have been a Hurricane fan since the early 1990's. I cheered for both teams without a problem for years, all was fine until 2002, now I get grief from both fan bases.
The Indians lose the 97 series in Miami, game 7 because the closer can't finish out the game, then there is whole Lebron to South Beach.
Except for the Hurricanes I have not adopted any of the local teams and have no desire to do so.
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You midwestern guys have suffered. Nothing personal and not you fault. Just luck of the draw. Poor El Silencioso allegiant to his sorry ass Cubbies. Will take it to the grave probably. So it begs the question... Is it better to stay true to a loser local team all your life on principal or to embrace an out of town team that can perform and win ?

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You midwestern guys have suffered.



Sounds like someone needs a homework lessons on Chicago Sports..

Lets see now..

Not a fan but the White Sox won a championship 2005

Bulls, well there were a few.. 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

You want more recent.. Ok, how bout the Blackhawks.. 2010 and 2013

We are doing ok in Chicago without flip flopping to so called "winners" :oops:
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At least the Heat, Lakers, Dodgers have won titles in recent history, Those of us with roots in Northeast Ohio sports haven't won a title since 1964. To make it worse, the idiot owner moved the team to Baltimore and they win a title.
I went to school at Ohio State and have been a Hurricane fan since the early 1990's. I cheered for both teams without a problem for years, all was fine until 2002, now I get grief from both fan bases.
The Indians lose the 97 series in Miami, game 7 because the closer can't finish out the game, then there is whole Lebron to South Beach.
Except for the Hurricanes I have not adopted any of the local teams and have no desire to do so.


thats one of the reasons i hate on Lebron the way i do. i can't take anything away from his game but that was really a cheap shot to cleveland and all the fans that loved him.
its been 88 since the dodgers did anything and w jerry buss gone who knows but it is and always has been purple and gold, chick hearn, west, magic, kareem, kobe. i am the first to say i have been so fortunate to have been able to see all of them play w the exception of west and the early 70s. i had a 9v transistor to my ear.
i can relate to the nfl thing since the rams left and won in stl after all those years.
but the bottom line is its painful for any long term fan of a team.
maybe thats why its so exhilarating when it finally comes since we're invested.
and i agree its been tough on ohio. hang in there.

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El Silencioso wrote:
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You midwestern guys have suffered.



Sounds like someone needs a homework lessons on Chicago Sports..

Lets see now..

Not a fan but the White Sox won a championship 2005

Bulls, well there were a few.. 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

You want more recent.. Ok, how bout the Blackhawks.. 2010 and 2013

We are doing ok in Chicago without flip flopping to so called "winners" :oops:


still has to hurt losing rose again. truly one of my favorite players in the league. :cry:

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i had a 9v transistor to my ear.
Was just thinking of this last night. Was watching Bulls - Rockets last night with Jr and asked him if he knew the gent calling the game. Told him the same guy called the Knicks games on WNEW radio in NY late 60's early 70's ... Marv Albert...used to go to sleep listening to the games with that transistor radio under the pillow. Guys been around a long time. Even survived that sex scandal BS.

@ El Chicagosio... Blackhawks ? That's nice. Happy for ya.... :lol:

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Heat hit their worst streak in 3 years!
Knicks on a 6 game win streak and hire Phil Jackson!
Lebron says he LIKES NY a lot better w this addition!
You guys might want to stock up on your Knicks gear while its still cheap :lol: :?:

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Hmmmmm.

If Mr "Decision" leaves Miami for New York. Will the knickerbockers earn back the fandom of Phoenix Rising ? :shock: :lol: Questions to ponder. :P
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Wah wah?

Chill on the Knicks talk... Not an issue...

Shout to papa HolaB...

Where's my rum? :?

Are we wagering again this year? :lol:

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Bobcats? Can o' corn 8) Embarrassing to watch the inequality of talent a bit. Good news will be over Monday nite.

Love that glance to Michael by LeBron going up for the stuff. 8)

Pacers Spurs and Thunder struggling to beat 7 and 8 seeds? WTF??? :P

KobME feliz with his can o' corn 40 milliones ... Drinkin the tripples in Belgium now? :lol:

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