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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:47 pm 
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I personally am sorry to hear there is a silent protest among long time posters. I take pride in providing a very balance fair board and site and this truly disturbs me.

We are not the small little club anymore of a coupl of hundred members so you are going to have a large range of attitudes, pro and con as well as newbies on a regular basis. Of course for a long time CR or Mongering vet it sometimes is difficult but you have to understand some time way back you were a newbie also.

Obviously you can do as you please as far as posting etc, but with any growith especially in RAPID Growth like CRT there will come minor problems. I like to think that things are in good shape and everyone gets along well.

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EL Ciego, ...LMAO......great to have to kick him while he is down, just pile on. I sent a PM apologizing for me not cutting him slack.

DALTIN, don't worry about these guys here. They are all great! Well.......most of them. They'll beat you up a little and there are many different opinions here. Take your time and get to know some of the guys and you will realize this. They are only breaking you in! :)

See you down in SJO :)

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It's not the newbies, it's the long time posters that bother me. It seems like they want to keep it their own little club and chase away the newbies. Like when they wanted to lock it down and go pay and private 100%. My view was newbies wouldn't pay and we'd be listening to the same ole group ramble on. We need fresh blood. Now they are scaring away the newbies by attacking them for every little thing and what do we have? The same ole little group just rambling on.


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We are not the small little club anymore of a coupl of hundred members so you are going to have a large range of attitudes, pro and con as well as newbies on a regular basis. Of course for a long time CR or Mongering vet it sometimes is difficult but you have to understand some time way back you were a newbie also.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:10 pm 
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Well I have a bit of a story. Guess I should have posted this sooner but. I have managed to get a few Tica's for 60, a colombiana for around 80(she ticled the right place at right time). Then there was this one girl whome I managed a FREE SHOT, well except for the drinks and breakfast. She was great stayed all night. She is someone I am keeping on the down low. Although I am sorry to my Banyo buddy for the noise that night at the sportsmens. :oops: There seemed to be a little more noise from the room. All this was back in March of this year.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:50 am 
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Ok everyone, I am using “word”, “a quick copy and paste”, hell I went to College, and yes I sucked in English, I was very lucky to get my C, but hopefully this will suppress the “criticism “
I have done Internet postings before never have I been so criticized for my grammar but if it makes it easier for me to communicate, to everyone it is worth the effort.





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I think it would be great if we could hook up and hang out with the guys and I think the attributes of my character, when you meet me will over shadow, my horrific grammer. I am really curious to see how you guys party in CR.



Prolijo.

Thanks for the pointers I will be mindful of what you have given me, my game plan is this.
1) Learn Spanish, I have anywhere from 50-100 different sentences and phrases I have gotten from some friends who are teaching me Spanish and also the internet, to help me in communication and negotiation with Ticas. I will have a small note pad for backup in case I struggle or have one drink too many.

2) In case I do get the opportunity to spend the night with three women at once, I will have brought along some things for the girls, (if you know what I mean) to put on a show and hopefully have a night I can tell my grandkids about, or on the other hand I better just stick to telling you guys lol I might not want to bring this up!!!!

3) I have a check list of everything I can think of, a map of where to find ticas, everyday attire chaser, viagra, earplugs for the DL, a calculator, camera’s, camcorder, about 50 condoms, a copy of my passport and so on….

Yes, guys in Tampa there are places you can go and get probably what you think is a 7 or 8 for 100-150, but you have to know where to look and you have to catch them at the right time and both are simple, once you truly understand how the girls operate. But I don’t really want to discuss Tampa out here.”I will tell you this”, I have relatives who own a strip clubs down here and I been around hookers, and dancers since I was 14 or 15 and I know how to deal with them inside and out. With this knowledge I am curious to see how I do in negotiating with ticas in CR. Maybe I will fall on my a** but hopefully I will have fun doing it!

I do think I should define my question a little better, first can I get a BL or KL girl for 30 minutes for $30-$60 and a all-nighter for $70-$80, or what about the price of two or more ticas, are there any benefits in a package deal. I have seen the pictures out here and I have heard stories and it looks like, from my point of view getting 2 ticas or more is happening right and left, I was wondering if anyone knows the going rate for an all-nighter? I am also counting on going in the down season will help too, but let me know what you think?

Thanks again to everyone who posted your thoughts were most helpful!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:30 am 
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first can I get a BL or KL girl for 30 minutes for $30-$60 and a all-nighter for $70-$80, or what about the price of two or more ticas, are there any benefits in a package deal.


Yes

Its easier to get a girl to stay all night with you if you pick her up late when business is slowing down.

Some girls have friends they like to stick close to and always want you to take both of them i guess they feel safer together and sometimes you can get a bargain

I live 1 hour north of Tampa if you have no problems dealing with some of these crazy strippers you certainly wont have a problem in Costa Rica.

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Daltin316 wrote:
first can I get a BL or KL girl for 30 minutes for $30-$60 and a all-nighter for $70-$80, or what about the price of two or more ticas, are there any benefits in a package deal. !


You can accomplish all of your goals, and come in on budget, with some smart negotiation.

I definitely suggest you do a search on negotiation tactics.
That subject is well documented here.

Group discount? No
No problem getting your bed full, but in general 2 costs twice as much as 1.

I also suggest you choose a hottie, and ask her to suggest the second.
Some of these girls resent each other, for reasons only another female can comprehend.

If the girls have no chemistry it ain't gonna work. :evil:

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Daltin316,
great post and don't worry about the actual grammar per say, your previous posts were hard to read and you have to remember looking at a computer screen for hours it all starts to blend together, especially for us older guys! :wink:

I am looking forward to meeting you down in SJO, looks like it is shaping up to be a real party. As far as my spanish goes, it is improving. When I drink too much, I suffer from CRSIS syndrome.(can't remember sh*t in spanish)

All in all I think you are welcome here and see ya down there! And it's great that you have done some homework and making good plans! Enjoy yourself!

Pura Vida! :twisted:

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Snooky, I hope I'm not one of those that is driving you away. I know I can ramble on just a little bit sometimes :roll:, dominate the discussion or be argumentative :oops:, and can sometimes get testy with people. But I usually try to make newbies feel welcome, give them the benefit of the doubt and answer all their questions.

I do feel more of the board should be reserved for paid members but certainly not all of it. Part of the board's mission is to educate broadly (e.g. NO CIEN) and having info freely available helps accomplish that. But after a visitor has had a chance to explore the free areas and has gotten an idea of the value of the information here, they should be encouraged to chip in the modest fee as a token of their appreciation for all they've gotten out of the board. Having even more information available to paid members is one way to accomplish that. If you think charging that small fee will stand in the way of attracting fresh blood, take a look around, nearly all of the people that post are VIP members anyway.

As for the grilling that some vets give some newbies, I think it is over the top sometimes too, but the admin is right it is just the way some people are going to be in any large group. This board is far more amicable than the last board was. There is no outright flaming. Sure there may be something of an inner club of longtime vets and regular posters as there is on most boards, but it is not a club that is really that hard to get into. Some of the most popular guys on this board are relatively new CR visitors (JohnnyBlack for example). Some newbies get put through their paces. Some can't take the heat and get driven off. Some just take it in stride or put up with it and write it off as a fairly small price to pay for all the info available here. Some take a while to learn the ropes but stick it out and eventually make it (Coqui). Some learn to fit in fairly quickly (as Dailton seems to be doing). And, yes, some really are jerks and deserve to be driven off (I won't mention any names).

But lets get back to the original subject:
Daltin316 wrote:
I do think I should define my question a little better, first can I get a BL or KL girl for 30 minutes for $30-$60 and a all-nighter for $70-$80, or what about the price of two or more ticas, are there any benefits in a package deal. I have seen the pictures out here and I have heard stories and it looks like, from my point of view getting 2 ticas or more is happening right and left, I was wondering if anyone knows the going rate for an all-nighter? I am also counting on going in the down season will help too, but let me know what you think?

Thanks again to everyone who posted your thoughts were most helpful!!
First let me say, I really respect the way you've handled all this criticism and the respectful and polite manner of your posts. Your editing definitely improves your posts. Thank you for adjusting for all us sticklers.

In answer to your questions: Yes, Yes, Yes, it all depends on your negotiating skills, and it depends. 30 for $30 is certainly possible as everything is negotiable including the time. I'm guessing most girls would readily go for 30 for $60, since most are normally willing to do a whole hour for that much. You should be able to get them down below that. Of course, if you want to go for 30 minute sessions, your best bet may be to go to certain MP's that offer that option for even less than the amounts you're talking about. As for "a all-nighter", (BTW, its an all-nighter :P) $70-80 is also certainly possible. Again it all depends on your negotiation skills.

The same applies to the sort of package deal you referred to. Its all in the negotiating, but it is possible to get the chicas to agree to a lesser amount than what they would normally charge for seperate individual sessions since they get to split the workload a little. The key thing with such sessions is to pick your chica and let her choose the second girl (subject to your approval of course). The reason for this is that you're more likely to negotiate a better rate if she can work with a friend, but also because using compatible girls makes for a better session.

Finally as for off season, it helps but not as much as you might think. Eco-tourism drops off because it is so hot and rainy and hotel and other prices reflect that but "mongering" is a year round indoor sport. The guys that come in both the summer and winter tend somewhat more to be the better informed regular CR visitors that know not to overpay, while newbies come more during the winter vacation months, but that is far from 100%. There are fewer guys at the BM but also somewhat fewer girls because of that, so it is all something of a wash. This is particular question is hard to answer and others may have a different take on it.


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A few points to expand on Prolijo's information.

It's not ALL in the negotiations with the girls. There are still factors like:
Does she have to get home to her husband or boyfriend?
Does she have to get home to her K*D(s).
Does she have to get home so her parents won't know what she is doing?
Does she have to get home because she is a student?
Does she have to get home because she has a day job?

Then they're are factors that change as the time with her gets longer:
Is she a pain in the ass?
Is she taking cell phone calls while she's with you?
Is she cleaning out your refrigerator?
Is she a lush?
Is she trying to get more money from you or begging for gifts?
Has she turned into a psychowoman?

While I personally have never had an all-nighter in Costa Rica I would think you would have a better chance finding one with a girl NOT from San Jose. The local girls are often the ones who have other obligations at home. Of course there are exceptions to each of these.

So even if you've done your homework, negotiated for time, services and price UP FRONT, things can still go south once you're back in the room.

One tip when negotiating time. I like to shower with my guest before we get down to business. They will then take some time to redo their makeup and hair before leaving.

I also escort them back to where I found them unless I put them into a taxi to send them home.

You have to factor all of this into the negotiation unless you just want a "quickie" then kick her out.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:38 am 
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Options do very, and so do tastes, for example,” I like a big A** with a big chest,” “ I HATE THE 115LB BARBIE DOLL LOOK”, “SHE HAS TO HAVE BACK” (but that is just me, to each his own, NOT FAT BUT THE HOUR GLASS LOOK) I have seen some pictures out here,” Oh, Lord” It made me come to the conclusion that I have to do this while I am still in my prime. That’s what makes this board worth every cent I paid to become a V.I.P. member, because it enables me to get a clearer understanding of what I am is in for, about a place I have never been too. I welcome any thoughts from anyone who has been to CR who can tell me about their experience and their negotiation techniques. Maybe I should make a new title? “Your Experiences Negotiating With Ticas In San Jose. Ok, next question can you negotiate with ticas at the MPs and can you take the ladies back to your room and would it be more cost effective there than at the BL or KL? And what is the going rate to accomplish this? One more thing, I am not cheap, but I want to pay what the market will bare and that is anther issue in itself but after all saving money wisely is “THE AMERICAN WAY”


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:04 am 
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YO :lol:

Next thing you know, there will be a printable one-page INTERVIEW/NEGOTIATION SHEET with all the important questions, negotiated rates and stipulations on it, with room for the chica's signature at the bottom. :idea:

You'll be able to pick out the CRT newbies sitting around the BM and KL with their CRT clipboards (laden with interview sheets) with "NO CIEN" emblazoned on the back (available in the CRT store, of course). :lol:

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Witling, those are very good points too. Just to expand on them even more.

When it comes to negotiations for TLN, of course it's critically important to be sure you're negotiating with someone that can actually deliver. I consider the "interview" to be part of the whole selection/negotiation process, although I don't really conduct it as an interview per se but more as bar chit chat with a lot of conversational questions thrown in that have ulterior reasons. You can never hit them all, particularly if your spanish is as bad as her english, but hopefully you can eliminate inappropriate selections before you've wasted too much time. One question/word that I always ask if I'm considering TLN is "Ninos?". Of course, if they say "Si" that doesn't mean they don't already have it covered with their Mama taking care of them for her or if they say "No" they don't have one of the other potential problems that Wit mentioned OR some he didn't. Assuming you know enough spanish to ask all of those questions, it still certainly improves your odds.

When it comes to Wits second batch of issues, unfortunately those aren't things that will come out in any pre-session interview, though if you're sharp you might see some clues. Usually, when they do happen you're simply stuck, which is yet another reason why "we don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave."

Its because of those above issues and others that I very rarely bother negotiating for TLN with a chica I've just met. Multi-hour maybe, but not TLN. Consider all the aspects. First, there is the usually unknown possibility that she will try to cut out on you early or sometimes worse stay late. I've had a chica putting on her things on at 5:30AM so she could get back for her K*D and another wanting to sleep in my bed until the next afternoon. Then there is the unknown possibility that she will change into a different chica back in your room, in which case getting her out of there by midnight is not soon enough. But there is also a security aspect. How do you know if this stranger won't be going through your stuff and slip out with something while you sleep.

If you're going to try TLN, I say forget the condensed interview altogether and save it for a chica you've been with before so that you know for a fact what she'll be like in the room, you have a better sense of security (since she didn't rip you off before and is probably even less likely to rip off a repeat client) and you've had a chance through repeated conversations of any possible issues that might cut the TLN short.

Incidentally, chicas have their own conversational interview questions too.

"Where you stay?" translation "Are we going upstairs or will I need to take long cab ride to get back here after we're done?"

"Primero vez en Costa Rica?" translation "Are you a guy who has learned the going rates here or can I bamboozle you into paying the cien?"

"Quanto tiempo in Costa Rica?" translation "Are you staying her long enough for me to go for a GFE/BFE experience where I'll be able to make a bunch of money over the course of the week or longer (maybe even a shopping trip) or is this going to be a one-shot deal?"

"You buy me drink?" translation "Okay, lets see if this guy is barrato"

"Tu tienes una esposa?" translation "Do you already have a wife or could I turn you into a lovesick gringo who will want to marry me and take me out of here forever?"

I'm sure there are many more. Do you guys have any others?


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I would consider myself to be a Newbie to CRT. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the long time members, as well as Newbies, for taking the time to write up trip reports, girl reviews, etc. I have only been to CR once before. I can tell you that I overpaid for hotels, girls, and essentially every other thing a gringo can overpay for. Thanks to the advice and posts from this board, I will not make the same mistakes.
I am a member of a few other boards, some being mentioned on this site. I can tell you this is one of the more “friendly” boards, and I enjoy checking in once in a while to read up on the happenings of CR.
I should also add that I plan on becoming a VIP member, not only to take full advantages of the CRT discounts, but to also further support this board.
I just booked a flight from Ft. Lauderdale, where I live, to SJO for $181, via US Airways. :D I enjoy reading all these good trip reports, and hope to contribute when I return from my Oct. trip.
Just the $.02 of a newbie/lurker or whatever you want to label me.


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