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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:18 pm 
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Regarding interviewing the girls, there is an entire thread regarding that on this site.

In the vein of becoming the kindler, gentler Witling I will post the link here:

https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=2318

Also, make use of the SEARCH function at the top of each page. If a subject hasn't already been covered on this site, it probably isn't that important anyway.


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Incidentally, chicas have their own conversational interview questions too.


Prolijo,
I can't tell you how many times I thought the exact same thing. Here we are trying to get answers from them and they are doing it right back to us.
While at times, I have often thought to answer the questions to benefit me and tell her what she wants to hear, I do not want to be labeled "el mentiroso". We all know the chicas talk about us as we do them, characteristics about us will spread rapidly around the BM and possibly either enhancing your negotiating skills or hinder it. We all know when she is lying, "her lips are moving".

As always I enjoy reading your posts!


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We all know the chicas talk about us as we do them, characteristics about us will spread rapidly around the BM and possibly either enhancing your negotiating skills or hinder it.


In the Dominican Republic, the chicas have their own mysterious "Coconut Telegraph", and news/intel about the mongers spreads incredibly fast: I would guess that in CR they send each other "Bananagrams"? :lol:

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Cremaconpalo wrote:
In the Dominican Republic, the chicas have their own mysterious "Coconut Telegraph", and news/intel about the mongers spreads incredibly fast: I would guess that in CR they send each other a "Banagram"? :lol:CCP


Did you ever notice how when you're going through your interview process with a chick at the Del Rey, her cell phone always rings? There's your "Coconut Telegraph" right there. It's like real-time intelligence gathering. She's getting the low down on you from some girl on the other side of the bar at the same time you're talking to her.


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I just though of something else. At the end of the night when the bars are closing are there a lot of girls trying to get that one last trick?


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IT NEVER CLOSES!!! HURRAY!!!!!!!!! lol


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what do you mean? It never closes?


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"ALRIGHT" that was a quick typing error "dont get crazy" lol


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Daltin316,

The BM (Blue Marlin bar at Del Rey) never closes. You can walk in there at 4am and get a drink and maybe a girl.


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Technically, you're right. The BM never closes and is open 24/7 BUT the crowd does tend to thin out at some point in the night and at that point you might be able to work a better deal. Some chicas hold out for the big score and realize "that ship has sailed". Others have come back from earlier scores and have made their nut for the night but want to add a little icing on the cake with one last run. Of course, many others, often the hottest ones, have made all they want to for the night and just want to go home. Or they've been snagged by other mongers and will either leave for home from there or stay with them for a TLN. There is also less bidding competition around as most other mongers have left with their chica of the evening not to return or have failed to find anything to their liking and have just gone back to their hotel alone. Personally, at my age anything past 3AM is way past my bedtime (particularly if you leave with a chica at that hour, you're not getting to sleep before 5) and if I hadn't scored would rather just bag it and hit the MP early the next day. So in sum, you might be able to get some bargains later at night (or is it early in the morning) but your selection will not be nearly as good.


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By the way, what would you guys say is a decent tip to leave your tica?


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By the way, what would you guys say is a decent tip to leave your tica?


From 5,000 colones for a quick adequate service
to 20,000 for a mind blowing all nighter.

At those numbers I may still be overpaying, but have never had a complaint.
And I think I have a rep as a good tipper.
That certainly helps with getting good effort from the providers. :lol:

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Daltin316 wrote:
By the way, what would you guys say is a decent tip to leave your tica?


From 5,000 colones for a quick adequate service
to 20,000 for a mind blowing all nighter.

At those numbers I may still be overpaying, but have never had a complaint.
And I think I have a rep as a good tipper.
That certainly helps with getting good effort from the providers. :lol:
T&V,

Of course you've never had a complaint. What chica in her right mind is going to complain about getting overtipped by so much? And then you say you have a rep as a good tipper :shock: . D'ya think?

20K is about $45 and if you're talking about $100 or less for an all-nighter that amounts to a 45% tip! or possibly even much more. And if you're paying more than $100 for an all-nighter isn't the fact that you're already paying at the upper end of the scale indicative of the fact that you're already expecting the mindblowing part thus obviating the need for any extra tip?

At the other end of the scale 5K for merely "quick adequate service" is also outrageous. One can get an hour of "quick adequate service" (or better) from any MP for less than 20K (and at some for much less). So a 5K tip amounts to a 25% or more tip for providing no more than the standard level of service. Do you tip 25% for merely adequate service back home? Maybe so, but most of us don't.

The tipping rates you suggested would seem ridiculously high even by US standards but in CR, where locals usually don't tip at all, it is completely astronomical. I can understand why many guys would fudge a little on local customs and give a girl that does a better than average job a little extra, but why exceed US rates? Put another way, the common wisdom around here is that guys should not pay "cien para una hora" since it is above market and messes up local price expectations. Those newbies that do it are using US prices as a justification for paying those rates while ignoring the realities of the local market. How is laying down such tips much different? Do it enough and many so-so chicas come to expect a tip as basically an entitlement that they can demand for even lackluster service.

Maybe those tips work for you. But they are WAY more than decent and way more than most of us tip. For you to post your personal practices the way you did in answer to a newbie question is highly misleading.

Daltin,

Here is my take on tipping. Again this may not be typical. Some guys may tip more (though T&V is definitely at the upper end) and some may tip less or even not at all.

Like I said before the Tico practice is to not tip at all, so to tip anything is really pretty much a gift. For "quick adequate service", I don't tip at all, since that was what I was paying for up front - basic CR quality service. If the girl does a better than average job I leave a modest tip.

The better restaurants in SJ typically automatically add a 10% service charge. If the service is truly exceptional some gringos might add another 5-10% or so to bring it up to our 15-20% standard. Usually not however. While such service charge are commonplace at better restaurants, any sort of tip in MP's or with service providers is not, however I still use that 10% as my guide for superlative service. Thus at a 20K MP, if the service is really good I might add 2-3K (if just adequate nothing). With BM girls its a little more complex. Unlike the MP girls who have to split the base rate with the house, these girls are highly paid independents. I'm not paying for the same adequate service I can get at an MP. For a high-quality 30K session, I'll still only tip 3K or maybe 5-6K for the very best service. But as the rate goes up my amount doesn't and I tip far less often. Like I said before the more you pay the more you should expect great service as your basic right.

If all we can expect is gringa escort non-gfe service as the norm, why should we even bother going to CR.

Like I said, just my humble opinion, others may disagree.


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Prolijo wrote:
For you to post your personal practices the way you did in answer to a newbie question is highly misleading.


The truth is misleading?

You have every right to disagree with anything I say, but you are making bad assumptions.

First, The most I agree to pay for TLN is 30,000 colones (about $63), and I often negotiate 20,000. (about $42).
The promise 'Un buen propina por muy buen servicio' is a wonderful carrot and stick negotiating technique.
I stand by it.

I do not tip unless I am satisfied with the effort, and that all terms of my negotiation and interview have been willingly complied with.

So, If I get mind blowing TLN I still only spend about $100.
That typically will include 3 or 4 'events'.
My average cost per event is $25 to $33.
I don't think that equates to overpaying.

The CRT consensus is that CIEN is WAY TOO MUCH for an hour.
I agree with that, and don't pay too much, in that light.

I see these girls as human beings, doing a job that is difficult, risky, and perhaps demoralizing.
I treat them well, until I see that they are not living up to my expectations.
If that happens I cease to deal with them.

The point that I wanted to make in my first post was that a good reputation goes a long way towards ensuring my complete satisfaction.
If every 'deal' is a WIN/WIN for all parties, how can I go wrong?
It is nice to know that when my TICAs phone rings, while I am interviewing her, it is another TICA telling her that I will be worth treating well.

Experience has proven me right.

When I call one of the frequently given cell phone numbers, day or night, the girl comes to me pronto.
That alone is sonething of a miracle in this land of manana.

I will bet that I still spend less than 70% of all DR gringos, and I get better treatment than 90% of all the gringos.

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Just a quick note on the "banana telegraph" 8) I was sitting in the BM with my favorita/novia and I was watching her out of the corner of my eye 8) while I was carrying on a conversation with my amigo. She was giving subtle hand signals to some of her amigas. I have no idea what they were signaling but I turned around and started giving hand signals myself. You should have seen the look on their faces from across the bar as I told them to bunt,steal 2nd, slide, etc.. :shock: :lol: :lol: Funniest sh*t ever!
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