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Continuing from CLN's Trip Report thread.

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This is an open thread. I think it is a good topic, and let's agree that no one person has the chicas all figured out, and no one's opinion is more important than anyone else's.

The topic arose from a statement I made that talking a chica down to 50% of her asking price might affect the session in a negative way. In essence, she has a perceived value on her ass at that day and time, and if by necessity has to accept less from some drunk, cheap gringo, then she will/may not perform as well as if she had gotten an amount within her 'range' of self worth.

The topic is about 'under paying', not 'over paying'. I think we all agree that you cannot coax better service with more money. The topic addresses the opposite: will paying under what she thinks she should get lead to a weaker session?

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She didn't accept $50 because one of her bills was due or she wanted to buy a new pair of pants and she needed $100, so she wouldn't budge off of it.


I thought they all did it for the hot sex. There goes my bubble. Again, they will accept as little as satisfies their need AT THE MOMENT. There are very few chicas that I know of that actually save money for some kind of a future.


You will learn this at some point. To most chicas, the mpost important thing is what the other chicas think about thme. Even if you negotiate in private, they don't trust dumb drunk gringos to go blabbing to the world that he got her for $50. They would rather go home empty-handed than risk having her "colleagues" find out that she went for that little money.


My comment about their mindset being like Ch*ldren wasn't based on the profession, but more so on the levels of immaturity most of them posses. They think only for the given day, or even given hour. They

Peer pressure and need at the moment.

And if she refuses $75 but accepts $80, it's not because she thinks her personal self-worth is $80 but because she sees the other chicas not taking less than $80 and she thinks that's what she should be charging.


Bottom line is that we are trying to use our logic, education, and experience to try and understand how a 3rd world prostitue thinks. None of us have ever sold our bodies just to be able to eat, so we can't possibly understand their mindset.

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"In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upwardly mobile, and the rest of us are phucked until we can put our acts together; not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely"...Hunter S. Thompson (RIP)

BD ... Lots of good wisdom here from BB57 and Orange... Read and Reread. I concur... The "quality" of the session has little to do with the price you pay. I understand that it seems reasonable to think that if a chica appears to be "begrudgingly" going with you for a lowball price, she will consciously punish you with a lousy session, but it really doesn't work that way. There are some things you can do to increase your odds of a better session. Paying the "asking price" of a chica is no guarantee of a good one. Paying the "asking price" of a chica only guarantees one thing...she will go with you before the guy who offers less, all other things being equal. And the price a chica is willing to session with you for has depends on many many things, some you have control over and some not. Whatever you end up paying, she already has it in her head at what level she is going to perform at.

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Like Orange said, the girls asking prices come from their knowledge of what their peers make. What they will actually accept can vary based on a million different whims of the moment. I don't believe that negotiating the price has any effect on the level of service as long as you aren't being a jerk about it. If you are getting bad service from a girl with a good rep, its more likely that she simply doesn't like you, aka YMMV.

This is an interesting thread, and in some ways everything that has been said is correct, BUT the problem is these women are not all the same. Some are poorly educated and some are very intelligent. Some live day to day and some are relatively well off. Some are bad performers at any price because they simply don’t have the skills to be anything else. Some will perform better for more money, but they perform better because they are looking for future money. They want to be the best you have ever had so you will keep coming back or visiting western union or paying them not to work. If you are in town for 10 days, they may try harder, hoping for 2 or 3 more sessions. If it is your last night, not so much.

I have started 2 or 3 times to write a thread classifying the women here into 4 categories: 1. Bad performers, 2. good performers, 3 Sharks and 4. Vulture girls. The problem I run into with this is that they will move back and forth between the categories depending on the situation. Two big factors being the money and the “guy”.

But the bashful one asked about self worth. I will stick my neck out there and say, YES, most of them have a feeling of self worth, with some of them it is actually rather high. But I am talking about how they feel about themselves as a person, not what they believe the use of their body for an hour is worth.

I made my first trip to San Jose about 3 years ago, I made many more and I have been living here for more than 10 months. That certainly does not make me an expert, but I have yet to meet a working girl that likes what she does for a living. They do it because working a “regular” job with their level of education would mean 50 or more hours per week for less than $500 per month. Some of them support extended families, I know one who has her daughter in a private school, and some of them are just lazy. But they don’t like what they do.

Each of them has a bottom line, a price they will not go below. They are doing something they find unpleasant, and there is a limit. Usually it will vary, depending on their economic situation at the time and on the guy offering, I think you all know what that means. They ask cien, because once in a while, someone will pay it, but most have a lower limit.

The big debate seems to be, will you get less service if you talk them down to a lower price. With some you will. If you talk to them, you will recognize the “attitude” quickly, and with a little experience will learn to walk away. As it has been said, with many the price will not effect the performance. This is where the self respect comes into play. The higher their self image, the more likely you are to get a good session. Just like a good plumber or mechanic, they will do it right or not at all. But by pushing the price down, you might miss out on other things. I have a favorite who recently told me she went with a guy for $20. She was in a terrible mess and had to have the money. I have no doubt he got the same experience in the bed that I get, that’s the way she is. But he probably didn’t get the intangibles that I enjoy. To many guys that doesn’t seem to be important, To me it is and I always give her $60, even when I know she is in a pinch for money.

Well, that’s my two cents worth. I actually have 4 but I’ll save the rest for another time.

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'Nuff Said!!!

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Based on an experience I had on my last trip, yes, I would say they have a perceived value. But like others have said, I think it is a sliding scale based on circumstance. On my last trip I had my eye on a chica who has been discussed on this board before, who I consider attractive and checks all the boxes I look for physically.

The first time I saw was around lunch at the SL and it was slow. When I walked through, I heard her do the "pssst, pssst" thing you hear down there, trying to get my attention from the couch. I didn't bite on that and it kinda turned me off and got the impression she was feeling good about herself being the "best" option available and thought she didn't have to put in any effort. I saw her later that night at the SL and it was packed. She just lurked around half-heartedly and paid me no attention even when she caught me looking her way a couple of times. Last time I saw her was late at night and I was eating. The place was winding down with only a handful of girls left. She actually started yelling "babi! babi!" at me from across the bar. Last straw for me. I wondered back then what the price difference may have been depending on the amount of competition in the bar versus the amount of possibilities for her the different times I saw her. To me, her own perceived value came across as ego. Maybe she's the hottest chica in the place. Maybe she's the only one....but she's still trying to get some guy to pay her for sex.

Let me throw a different angle on this discussion since it has been about negotiating with the girls in places like HDR or others and their perceived value of themselves. How does a girl who works in a MP (NF, Scores...) perceive her value? Does she feel like she is worth less and will take the flat rate and avoid haggling? I have seen MP beauties I was happy to find and not have to negotiate with, getting a lower price in an MP when I figure she could be working in the HDR or SL making more if she gets a client. Do I think these chicas lower themselves to working in an MP versus being an independent? No. I think it all depends on circumstance.

I will never understand how a woman's mind works. Ever. And that goes double for putas and all the things that go along with being one that contribute to an unfathomable mindset.

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So, paying more than Calle Seis rates for an HDR chica is over paying, because she'll perform at her best for $100, or $18, or perhaps even a dog bone if there's a hint of meat left on it.

I love the way you guys draw little blue boxes around such broad subject matter as human nature. As if everyone can be crammed into that box to suit your style. And if you guys are correct, then it is a true statement that guys who pay too much ARE ruining the scene for everyone.

So, back to the question of the thread: Does a working girl have a perceived value in herself?

I will posit an additional question: What drives this sense of value?

1. Peer pressure
2. an immediate need for cash
3. ... I don't know ... Disney movies?

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Perhaps it's just me, but I read more wisdom from this post than others.

So, along side the idea of a perceived value, we have the concept of a self image in play. That goes by many names: self respect, sense of professionalism, fairness, etc.

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you guys that have made actual friends with putas, answer me this:

How are they different from other Tica/Nica/etc women that you know? Yes, they sell their bodies for money, but deep down, are there tangible things that make them different?

And I don't mean emotional scarring caused *BY* the puta job ... this came afterwards.

(Obviously matching puta Tica to non-puta tica ... not mixing tica/nica into the same bag.)

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This statement bears close scrutiny. I'm going to need to think on this one for a while. Thanks.

The Peer pressure thing doesn't jive with so much that has been posted here about negotiations.

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Some great points made here.....so I will add one of my own ......when I take an intrest in a girl no matter if I meet her at the delrey, sportmens or even a mp.

While doing the interview process and starting to feel good about a girl , I tell them I understand why they are in this business.....for their baby and family ....the ones that understand that we understand were some of my best sections and felt they respected me for understanding their situation.