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Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Thu May 09, 2013 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  How do MP negotiations happen
I haven't seen a post on this, and I'm curious.
MPs differ from indies as there is full discussion upfront about expectations with the indie, and haggle.
Since the MP charges a flat-rate per roomtime (ignoring gringo pricing issues), how do you make sure expectations are understood?
Do you discuss this upfront, or wait til you get to the room?
How is upsell discussed when there is a fixed rate?
Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Wed May 15, 2013 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
... cricket ... cricket ...
Author:  Chilimike [ Wed May 15, 2013 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Just like dealing with any working girl, in a mp if you find one you like pull her to the side and tell her what you want and if she says yes then you should have a deal, most are pretty up front about what they will or will not do, if you are in a mp and she blows your requests off after you have paid as all mp's are pay first, you can 1. Go bitch about it to the person who took your money, tell her to get out and try to get someone else, chalk it up for not seeing through her bullshit and save your nut, just let her know that you will share her bullshit session with many gringo friends.

Best thing is to read the board here and try to get some info and use your gut feeling to pick the one you want, with most bad pulls you can go back and say " i should of ask her this or that" or she gave you the vibe that the session would be bullshit.

Most bad pulls are from letting the little guy do all the thinking :shock:
Author:  Scuba1 [ Thu May 16, 2013 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
BashfulDwarf wrote:
I haven't seen a post on this, and I'm curious.
MPs differ from indies as there is full discussion upfront about expectations with the indie, and haggle.
Since the MP charges a flat-rate per roomtime (ignoring gringo pricing issues), how do you make sure expectations are understood?
Do you discuss this upfront, or wait til you get to the room?
How is upsell discussed when there is a fixed rate?



You are correct in that the pricing is fixed in a MP - but depending where you go, some will expect a tip, especially for things like uncovered BJ's and certainly anal - so it pays to have the conversation prior to money exchange. Many will not do anal, so if that's your thing, you have to have prior agreement.

Believe me they have heard all the requests before, so you are not going to shock them - many "bad" secessions (in an Mp or with and Indie) are a direct result of poor pre secession negociations - some don't agree (b/c it takes the romance out of it - what BS, its a business transaction after all) but if its a girl you don't know, as much info up front is a good thing.
Author:  Netgems [ Fri May 17, 2013 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
MP's like HLH you can obviously meet the girl first and negotiate, and even NF's new forum allows that. Some like Oasis off of Paseo Colon you have to just pick and go, I've been to several of them like that and have asked the manager if I may talk to the girl I'm interested in first, never got a no on that. many of the girls speak little or no English so if you don't speak Spanish, good luck.

That being said, all of them know they are going to get pounded, but many don't want to French kiss, 69, BBBJ, etc. If you don't speak Spanish and desire an unusual peccadillo, it's a coin toss. That being said, my experiences with MP's have mostly been positive and many times I've left not getting 100% of what I wanted but was satisfied with the 80% I did get.

As my friend's 81 year old grandfather said who comes with us on our visits and listened in on our discussions of which ones we thought were good looking and the others not so much, "hell, THEY ALL look good to me."

If you're new at this game you'll eventually get burned a time or two, but most of the time the girls want to earn a tip, they get 1/2 of the room fee at best. I know some of my more -ahem- frugal brothers here don't like to give a tip, after all, they are sentimental about those coins with their fingerprints embedded in them, but I always promise a good tip if I get my specific requests met with "mucho gusto"...
Author:  Orange [ Sat May 18, 2013 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
BashfulDwarf wrote:
I haven't seen a post on this, and I'm curious.
MPs differ from indies as there is full discussion upfront about expectations with the indie, and haggle.
Since the MP charges a flat-rate per roomtime (ignoring gringo pricing issues), how do you make sure expectations are understood?
Do you discuss this upfront, or wait til you get to the room?
How is upsell discussed when there is a fixed rate?

read my newbie thread in the newbie section

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16357
Author:  Netgems [ Sun May 19, 2013 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Great advice from brother Netgems.-DonCarlos

Thanks for the accolades, brother DonCarlos, I've been at this game for over 10 years, I lived here from 2007 thru 2009 pounding 2 to 3 a week and had been coming here 2 to 4x a year since 2003. I got stung and burned and ripped off numerous times as a junior, but now have perfected my skill to where I almost never get a bad lay, maybe a bunch of us old schoolers should get together and write a book for Newbie Monger tourists...
Author:  Hank Daman [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
About the notion of tips/upset. What I tell the chica is that I tip for fantastic service, and when I am extremly happy, I tip, return, and tell my friends. So, I tell her, it is up to her to how happy she wants to make me. While not a sure fire method, it does put the financial incentive on the table, without any comittment, and for me, without killing the mood. If she persists, I will also treat it as a sport Phuck session if I am not in the mood to "get her in the mood." If I am, I will try to spend a bit of time (not much, as I have an hour, after all) on getting her motor running. These are working girls, but they are women- pull the rights strings and you are often rewarded.

Also, the notion that 80% of MP girls upset has never been my experience- but I have not been in CR in two years, so perhaps that has changed.
Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Sun May 19, 2013 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Orange wrote:
BashfulDwarf wrote:
I haven't seen a post on this, and I'm curious.
MPs differ from indies as there is full discussion upfront about expectations with the indie, and haggle.
Since the MP charges a flat-rate per roomtime (ignoring gringo pricing issues), how do you make sure expectations are understood?
Do you discuss this upfront, or wait til you get to the room?
How is upsell discussed when there is a fixed rate?

read my newbie thread in the newbie section

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16357


Orange, it's the first thing I ever read here, the best thing I ever read here, and actually have it book-marked to refer to certain sections. It just didn't quite answer my question. I wasn't sure if the MPs give you the chance to nego prior to entering the room, or if you had to wait until you were in the room to make specific requests.
Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Sun May 19, 2013 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Netgems wrote:
...but most of the time the girls want to earn a tip, they get 1/2 of the room fee at best. ...


SO they get maybe half the 'room rate', which is the fixed price. If you nego specific services, is there a separate price haggle, or is that discussed as a 'tip' as well? If discussed outside of the room, do they have to split the 'upcharge' with the house?
I'm not being academic here, I don't speak Esp so I can only, at best, memorize a few well structured phrases that I can control the return Spanish. With my luck I'll try to nego a BBBJ and then watch her take shackles and a bullwhip out of the locker while shaking her head in disgust. Oh sh*t, I'd better start practicing my sprinting.
Author:  Orange [ Thu May 23, 2013 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
In MP's, no negotiating on the fixed price, especially in the Tico MP's. You'll get at the minimum, cbj and sex. Many will do bbbj and give GFE for the standard price, without an upcharge, In the gringo MP's (HLH, NF, Idem), however, the girls have been spoiled by dumb gringos throwing money at them, so now many girls there expect "tips" for things such as bbbj, daty, kissing, anal, etc. But I would not "tip" more than 10K colones ($20) total for all those things, except anal, it could be more, depends.

So before you decide to take a girl, you pull her over to the side and tell her what you want and she'll tell you what kind of "tip" she expects. Then you pay the fixed charge, lets say $50/hr and after the session, you give her the tip, The fixed charge is paid upfront. But never the tip.

If you pay fixed price and she shows you a good time, give her a moderate tip (5K, $10), But if you get upcharged for something then no extra tip on that of that.

Any other questions, post them.
Author:  Sailor501 [ Thu May 23, 2013 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
apprecite the posts ;some of the mistakes i made on my first trip , not sure to do, 1/2 hour or full hour ,not keeping track of time ,tired myself walking to diffent places ,but did learn the city, at DR I though 50 bucks for hour in the room it went 50 bucks 30 minutes ,I didn't argue, funny she didn't speak much english before the room ,must make thing very clear, anyway like I said before Iam not writer.... good flick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIbwO05JAA
Author:  Netgems [ Thu May 23, 2013 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
BashfulDwarf wrote:
Netgems wrote:
...but most of the time the girls want to earn a tip, they get 1/2 of the room fee at best. ...


SO they get maybe half the 'room rate', which is the fixed price. If you nego specific services, is there a separate price haggle, or is that discussed as a 'tip' as well? If discussed outside of the room, do they have to split the 'upcharge' with the house?
I'm not being academic here, I don't speak Esp so I can only, at best, memorize a few well structured phrases that I can control the return Spanish. With my luck I'll try to nego a BBBJ and then watch her take shackles and a bullwhip out of the locker while shaking her head in disgust. Oh sh*t, I'd better start practicing my sprinting.


Bash,
I'm pretty sure they get to keep 100% of their tips, I recommend ''taking charge", don't let them state what they want for "extras", I usually tell them what I want and say if I get good service, I tip "x" amount, if I get superb service "con mucho gusto" there's more. If during the session I am not satisfied, I remind them it's not going well.

I almost always succeed with this formula, my last visit a girl approached me at the HDR my first night, I was tired from the flight hassles and had already in the afternoon been with Karen at HLH who you must ABSOLUTELY visit your first time, and was just hanging around watching the show. She was very sexy but I was exhausted and was trying to blow her off, finally I thought I could get rid of her by offering $40, she accepted !

We didn't go thru my normal negotiation methodology and when we got back to the room she had a list of "I don't do thats" and I was getting irritated, I don't ask them to swing from the chandelier with a lampshade on their heads. She was really hot and had a smoking tight full firm breasted body though, I still wanted to see if I could salvage the situation.

I finally said I was disappointed and would give her $20 and she could now leave or at least do such and such for me and earn the $40 AND a $10 tip. To my surprise her attitude changed 360 degrees and she really delivered, I was almost stunned how fabulous she became ! I gave her a $20 tip and enjoyed a great first night's sleep...

The moral of the story ? Lay down the law and don't back down, if they sense weakness, you're cooked !
Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Thu May 23, 2013 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Netgems wrote:
The moral of the story ? Lay down the law and don't back down, if they sense weakness, you're cooked !


I am better at 'laying down law' than negotiating ... especially in a foreign language. I can always walk away if I don't think it's going my way. I'd rather sleep alone than get made the fool by a prostitute.
Author:  BashfulDwarf [ Thu May 23, 2013 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How do MP negotiations happen
Orange wrote:
If you pay fixed price and she shows you a good time, give her a moderate tip (5K, $10), But if you get upcharged for something then no extra tip on that of that.


As always, Orange ... most excellent, straight-forward advice.
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