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Author:  RoadMn295 [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:27 am ]
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Author:  Rac [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

What you don't know, won't hurt you.

But, what you THINK you know, but don't REALLY know, will hurt you A LOT.

Author:  Scuba1 [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

RoadMn295 wrote:
I Don't Know Shit...

...I don't...Actually, you probably do, a lot more than you think you do - and one big "teller" of intelegence (to me) is knowing what you don't know

After 4 years and numerous mongering trips to CR it dawned on me during my recent trip....I don't know shit.

I told this to an expat friend. He laughed. He gave me 3 bits of advice and a long discussion. The advice:

1. Everything here (we were in SL bar at the time...if that matters.....) is not real.
2. The chicas live in the moment, the now...they aren't even thinking 5 minutes forward.
3. He has decided that CR is best understood if you smoke a lot of weed. (I don't do drugs, so I cant verify that one)

But it's more than this (and I realize the 3 bits of advice are couched in a lot of humor and oversimplification).The first 2 points are true - the 3rd is just a stupid analogy - just because CR is different from the USA does not mean all is weird or bazarre - just, ahem, different :wink:

I don't know what I don't know. The more I monger the more I see that whatever is behind what is there....I have no clue.

So I talk to all the guys I can. I seek to understand. My theory is, the more I actually understand what's going on, the better I can make my experience fun, memorable, and pleasurable. Also, I wish to avoid mistakes that take away from my enjoyment of mongering. Some you can - others, you can't - or just have to attribute to "shit happens"

This recent trip I had was a ball-buster in a couple of ways. Overall, yes, it was awesome...great friends, food, sex... But I was hit with a couple of hard lessons too. The lessons weren't lost on me, but I sure do feel I know exactly fuck-all about the girls.

So what were the ball-busters?

In short form, 1) I broke some "interview" rules and got bit in the ass with a shitty performance,Happens...to everyone - even smart, experienced guys - move on to the next 2) Got it really hammered home from a girl I actually like a lot that it's only and has ALWAYS BEEN about the money. period. Ouch. It is.....sure, we should be polite, "nice", and can have a <sorta> friendship and a connection swith many (some??) - but when guys give their contact numbers, address', facebook , e mail address, and stay in "contact", overall, I gotta laugh, b/c its always about the money - they may "like" you more than the average guy, but you are still only a customer - sometimes I post harshly when guys give out all their info, and actually expect their relationship is more than what it is

Reading about it is not the same as having it burned into your psyche with not so much as a 'sorry, this is gonna hurt a little' (or my favorite: "you're going to feel a slight pinch..")

But it's yet more than that...the 2 lessons got me thinking....what else don't I know?Like all of us, probably much How do I get my brain wrapped around what is really going on? Honestly, what really helped me - a lot - was a "tour" I did 5 or 6 years ago with BangBang57 - when he was still posting, and still giving tours - I know he reads the board, although no longer posts - give him a PM and see if he will do a "walk"/tour with you next time you are in CR

Also, and very importantly, what don't I know about myself? What experiences would change me if I had them? Who am I as a monger? Who do I need to become, as a monger? You are starting to get into the weird, the strange......you are thinking way too much - how about you enjoy phucking hot young latin girls, and just leave it at that - better for you (and I suspect, better for us :lol: )

So..I'm just going to have to keep observing, learning, listening, and STOP THINKING I KNOW SOMETHING...when I don't.

My trips have continued to get better, and better, and better. I look forward to my next trip. That is the key; onward and upward vs the guys with 20 trips who know a 5 block radius around the DelRey

I welcome your constructive comments.

Author:  Seawub [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

So how do you feel about guys like me who will swap contact info, stay in touch, develop some kind of "friendship" but are perfectly accepting and enjoying the fact that it is and always will be about the money. :mrgreen:

Author:  Zunbake3 [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

RoadMn295 wrote:
I Don't Know Shit...

...I don't...

After 4 years and numerous mongering trips to CR it dawned on me during my recent trip....I don't know shit.

I told this to an expat friend. He laughed. He gave me 3 bits of advice and a long discussion. The advice:

1. Everything here (we were in SL bar at the time...if that matters.....) is not real.
2. The chicas live in the moment, the now...they aren't even thinking 5 minutes forward.
3. He has decided that CR is best understood if you smoke a lot of weed. (I don't do drugs, so I cant verify that one)

But it's more than this (and I realize the 3 bits of advice are couched in a lot of humor and oversimplification).

I don't know what I don't know. The more I monger the more I see that whatever is behind what is there....I have no clue.

So I talk to all the guys I can. I seek to understand. My theory is, the more I actually understand what's going on, the better I can make my experience fun, memorable, and pleasurable. Also, I wish to avoid mistakes that take away from my enjoyment of mongering.

This recent trip I had was a ball-buster in a couple of ways. Overall, yes, it was awesome...great friends, food, sex... But I was hit with a couple of hard lessons too. The lessons weren't lost on me, but I sure do feel I know exactly fuck-all about the girls.

So what were the ball-busters?

In short form, 1) I broke some "interview" rules and got bit in the ass with a shitty performance, 2) Got it really hammered home from a girl I actually like a lot that it's only and has ALWAYS BEEN about the money. period. Ouch.

Reading about it is not the same as having it burned into your psyche with not so much as a 'sorry, this is gonna hurt a little' (or my favorite: "you're going to feel a slight pinch..")

But it's yet more than that...the 2 lessons got me thinking....what else don't I know? How do I get my brain wrapped around what is really going on?

Also, and very importantly, what don't I know about myself? What experiences would change me if I had them? Who am I as a monger? Who do I need to become, as a monger?

So..I'm just going to have to keep observing, learning, listening, and STOP THINKING I KNOW SOMETHING...when I don't.

My trips have continued to get better, and better, and better. I look forward to my next trip.

I welcome your constructive comments.

Perhaps Greengo can shed some enlightenment on this and our dilemma! :?

Author:  Scuba1 [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

Seawub wrote:
So how do you feel about guys like me who will swap contact info, stay in touch, develop some kind of "friendship" but are perfectly accepting and enjoying the fact that it is and always will be about the money. :mrgreen:



Candidly 'wub, I think way too much info is provided these days in so many ways; I don't like social media (and realize I'm in a minority) and prefer to stay in touch with those I consider friends. I've never found the lives of the various pro girls in CR sufficiently interesting to want to develop any type of relationship outside of CR - but thats me - you feel differently, which is fine :)

You are a savvy guy and you know the score, unlike Joe Doakes from Bumm Phuck AR, who provides all his contact info to girls who he has known for an hour during his first trip to CR, then is surprised and hurt when he gets an RFM, or that she considers him no more than just another "John".

I don't see the percentage in what you ask about, but that's just me - since you know the score, and if it works for you, keep doing what you have been - but any info shared (and this is directed at the membership in general) can always come back to bite you.

Author:  Seawub [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I Don't Know Shit...

I know there is always a chance of something coming back to bite me, but I am selective about who I keep in touch with.. really only keep in touch with four different girls and two of them don't work on our side of the bar. Still have yet to receive a single RFM in any shape or form. But I think that is because of how I carry myself with the girl, they know anything of that nature would fall on deaf ears. But knowing where you stand makes a huge difference, I don't have any feelings outside of enjoying their company, they have none outside of accepting my money. Shes not mine and I never feel she is and have no issues hooking her up with a buddy so he can enjoy also. I do find myself having things in common with some of the girls and enjoy talking with them, that is why I keep in touch. But I am the same age as most of the working girls in San Jose so finding common interests is more likely to occur.

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