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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:09 am 
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First let me say, this forum is one of the best I've ever been on, great info.. I'm graduating from college in a month, have some money saved up (couple grand) and want to go abroad for a couple months since for the first time in my life, I'm free! I've been looking in Costa Rica for a few months, and it looks like I could go there and do a budget trip for roughly 500-600usd/month including housing, food, etc.

I wouldn't be eating out everyday, mainly going to the beach, exploring, and just enjoying being somewhere different. I found a few places on craigslist for 2-300/month including utilities. They're def not luxurious in any way, but I'm not going for that.

I wouldn't rent a car for various reasons, would use public transportation (very good system there.) even looked into renting a moped or bicycle for a week or two. I won't be enjoying any luxuries, just like being at home but cheaper!

I don't have anything holding me down, I have very little student loans, the only bills I would have while there would be cell phone and I will be getting a prepaid one there and using it minimally. I'm very adventurous, none of my fam or friends would do something like this, it's always been my dream tho.


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^I lol'd, Ive been waiting for the day I could finally do this for about 5 years.. I'm determined. On a side-note, a question I forgot to ask: whats a reasonable budget for someone in my position? could i live well on $1,100 a month? like I said I'll be living in a hostel style place for around $200/month it looks, cooking about half of my meals, and prob a girl or two a week.

I'm even interested in renting a dirt bike/sport bike while i'm there at least for a week or so.

A little about myself also, Ive been to Mexico twice (Cancun, Aca) and love it, even been to mexico city. I'm 23 years old, from the US, 6'4" 220lb white male. Always been drawn to CR for some reason..


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I wish after I graduated college that I had found CR. I spent a good amount of time in Acapulco, there was Chicas and Taberas. I am not sure about 1 - 2 girls per week. You might be looking at more than that especially after you see the lovely ladies. I would look at an average of $50 per day then lodging. With tours, renting bikes, MP's, SL/DR chicas, and partying. Obviously you don't have to go crazy bcs time is on your side.

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Just to make it clear.

1 - You do realize this is a P4P forum? Not that information about living in CR is not available but the main focus is for P4P.

2 – If you are going to P4P, your budget is a bit too low, unless you want to go to the lower quality MP’s.

3 – How’s your Spanish? Do you have friends in CR that can help you?

4 – Do you have extra funds in case of an emergency?

While backpacking across Europe is an adventure, CR could be a little more dangerous for a non-Spanish speaker lost soul. You can do it within your budget but might definitely come down to a no-frills trip including chicas.

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If i were you, i would backpack around colombia, it's the new tourist adventure.....

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Thx for all the suggestions, yes I know this isn't a forum devoted to living in CR but nonetheless lots of great info. As far as it being dangerous, Ive been to Mexico City, rode in taxi's there, been to cancun, rode a bus from Mexico city to Acpulco, put myself in some bad situations (being in the hood at 5am wasted) and was with my hot bright blond gf (of the time ;)) the whole time.. and I honestly never had ONE problem. Everyone was telling us to cancel the trip because of the drug scare but we were fine.

Not even anything was said, which was surprising. Everyone tells me its because of my size, but who knows. My gf said that when I wasn't with her she would get guys saying everything, as soon as I was around silence. I get along with everyone Im around and know how to talk to people. I speak some decent spanish, but mainly english. I am very independent person and feel this kinda trip is what I need.

I kno it will be hard to stay on a budget, but i'll be able to do it. 1-2 girls a week means 1-2 girls a week haha... plus isn't it possible to just pick up a girl at the bar like at home, or do they ALL charge? what are some spanish phrases or sangs that are a must to learn? Should I opt for a hostel (looking at the one for 300/month on here) or something off craigslist? I want to be able to cook some meals and have a tv/internet. I also want to be with a bus ride to the beach.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:18 am 
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I don't wanna rain on your parade, but I'm against this.

Its underbudget. Spanish is this case is a must. Experience is also a necessity. Why not go down there and scout the place out first? Your scouting trip will be fun...trust me.

I'm no pillar of being street smart. I believe all the good fellas on this board have put themselves in a strange position or two. So read on and and be careful out there buddy.

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Swaptrex wrote:
Thx for all the suggestions, yes I know this isn't a forum devoted to living in CR but nonetheless lots of great info. As far as it being dangerous, Ive been to Mexico City, rode in taxi's there, been to cancun, rode a bus from Mexico city to Acpulco, put myself in some bad situations (being in the hood at 5am wasted) and was with my hot bright blond gf (of the time ;)) the whole time.. and I honestly never had ONE problem. Everyone was telling us to cancel the trip because of the drug scare but we were fine.

Not even anything was said, which was surprising. Everyone tells me its because of my size, but who knows. My gf said that when I wasn't with her she would get guys saying everything, as soon as I was around silence. I get along with everyone Im around and know how to talk to people. I speak some decent spanish, but mainly english. I am very independent person and feel this kinda trip is what I need.

I kno it will be hard to stay on a budget, but i'll be able to do it. 1-2 girls a week means 1-2 girls a week haha... plus isn't it possible to just pick up a girl at the bar like at home, or do they ALL charge? what are some spanish phrases or sangs that are a must to learn? Should I opt for a hostel (looking at the one for 300/month on here) or something off craigslist? I want to be able to cook some meals and have a tv/internet. I also want to be with a bus ride to the beach.


Since you have Spanish I would seriously conside Colombia in place of CR. Your money would definitley go further and IMHO it would be more of a real adventure you could talk about later. But realize that I think that Colombia beats CR hands down in everything.

Do some research into Colombia,

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:47 am 
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Beachbumm2006 wrote:
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I don't wanna rain on your parade, but I'm against this.

Its underbudget. Spanish is this case is a must. Experience is also a necessity. Why not go down there and scout the place out first? Your scouting trip will be fun...trust me.

I'm no pillar of being street smart. I believe all the good fellas on this board have put themselves in a strange position or two. So read on and and be careful out there buddy.

BB

hey man I appreciate the words, my motto is that anything can be done.. but what are you implying, that I'll be through my money in a week?

def going to check out colombia, any sites or forums to look at? thx guys..


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IMO, go for it.

Your budget is on the low side, but if you choose to, it could be done. You will just eat a lot of rice & beans.

I've never stayed in a hostel, but in walking through one it seems like it would be hard to bring a lady back for a session.

You mentioned a dirt/sports bike. I hope that it is not for the street. I have 45 years riding experience and I wouldn't try it. In my 8-9 trips to CR I have seen about 5 bikes under buses. Traffic lights, signs, etc. are just suggestions. The rule of the road is the largest vehicle rules, which makes bikes prey for all other vehicles. For on road, and your budget, use public transportation. The people of CR all drive like cabbies in TJ.

Do not walk around the gulch, or SJ at night. Since you do not know the area it would be very easy to end up in a less than desireable area. While you are big, they are poor. Five or six crack heads see you as the next fix.

When you arrive go to The Sportmen's Lodge. You will be able to meet several CRT vets there. They can help lead you in the right direction.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:09 pm 
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great info, so since my budget is low.. what would be a do-able budget for a month or so of fun (doing it smart)? would I be better off going for 2 weeks and having the time of my life, or going for a month or 2 and doing things at a slow pace? realistically, if I started saving I could have 2-3k to spend but would rather not.

regarding colombia, I speak minimal spanish but would I be able to get by here or would I be lost around no one that speaks some english? seems like CR has a decent number of english speaking people. how are the girls in colombia (cleanliness, price, etc) where would be the best place to stay? crime problems worse than CR? anything you know about the area please fill me in, thanks a lot.


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Swaptrex--I didn't get a good sense of where in CR you wish to ramble or how much time to spend in each area, but came across these sources to fine-tune your ramble.
In SJO, there's a multi-building hostel in the Gulch that looks good as a starting point/ base-camp
www.pangea.hostel.com
Elsewhere in CR look at these:
www.hostels.com/cr.html
www.hostelworld.com/countries/costaricahostels.html
www.hostelbookers.com/hostels/costa-rica
www.hostelcostarica.com

For gen. info about backpacking in CR, try these:

www.associatedcontent.com/article/3076/ ... at_to_pack >>has other articles of interest
www.gocentralamerica.about.com
www.thebackpacker.net/destinations/costa-rica
www.travelingo.org/central-america/cost-rica
www.passplanet.com/costa_rica
The CR equivalent of diners (called "sodas") can keep you well fed for cheap. Every village of any size has one.
With your size, some game and some Spanish, you should have no trouble finding sex--maybe even with Gringas/ Europeans.
Good luck and HEY, how about a trip report when you're done. BTW, www.tripadvisor.com can be an invaluable resource--don't ignore it.

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COLOMBIA, WHERE Gabriel García Márquez created magic realism, is a surreally beautiful country. It has emerald mines, cloud forests, volcanoes, warm people, fabulous music, salsa and a landscape that ranges from the Caribbean coast of the north to the mountains of the south, with lush coffee plantations in between.

Colombia now seems like the Australia of South America, as so many backpackers are on the road here. Large numbers of them are Irish. Given its poor press during its drug-war years, the country is extremely keen to promote itself as a tourist destination, so the slogan on billboards everywhere is: “Colombia, the only risk is wanting to stay.”

Is Colombia dangerous? It certainly has an edge. It still produces more than half of the world’s cocaine, and its political system is volatile. The drug is difficult to miss – not least because other backpackers constantly tell you that it costs just $2.50, a gram.

Soldiers and private bodyguards are in evidence everywhere. Gated communities are commonplace, as are civilians carrying guns, and houses that aren’t gated are done out like Fort Knox. As in any other country, you need to be streetwise, but in three weeks of backpacking by myself – and I travelled around a lot – I never had a moment’s trouble.

I mostly stayed out of the cities, although I vaguely regretted staying only one night in Medellín. The city was infamous as the base of Pablo Escobar, the late billionaire drug lord, who operated his cartel from here. I was tempted to stay and go on a wonderfully tasteless Escobar tour, on which you can see the house where he grew up, the place where he was shot dead and his utterly unremarkable suburban grave.

Instead I went to the nearby colonial mountain town of Santa Fe de Antioquia, which was deliriously pretty and hot, all wood and high ceilings and tumbling flowers. From here it was on to Salento, in the coffee-growing zone; a lovely place, surrounded by plantations, which you can do tours of, and beautiful old houses with verandas.

Near Salento is Cocora, a lush mountain valley where wax palms – the world’s tallest palm trees – grow. There are plenty of great hikes, and if you’re not looking at a waterfall you’re looking at the hummingbirds that are so common here.

The white-painted southern colonial city of Popayán was almost levelled by an earthquake in 1983; it has since been carefully restored. From here I went east, to the cloud forest of Tierradentro. This is where you leave the paved roads behind – the bus broke down five times in six hours – and where jungle covers everything.

The village of Tierradentro is famous for a series of painted tombs, discovered in the 1940s and thought to be about 1,800 years old.

Men here go to work in the fields on horseback, wearing ponchos and carrying machetes – and mobile phones. No other country in South America is so wired up as Colombia. Most people seem to have at least two phones, one permanently clamped to an ear, even in the remotest parts of the country.

I spent a day walking to four of the five sites around Tierradentro. All were up steepish trails, and all were guarded by men who wait all day for people who almost never come. I examined the register I had to sign when buying my ticket at the museum, and an average of six people a week visit this extraordinary site. I saw nobody all day.

At each site a guard unlocked a gate to the tombs. I descended steep steps, often in darkness – bring your head torch – and the experience is rather like going down a series of mines, or wells.

These tombs were amazing places full of atmosphere, with interiors painted red, blue, white and black in patterns of chevrons and diamonds, some with carved heads that look like the Boa Island man.

Most of the tombs haven’t yet been opened, or even excavated. At one of the four sites I visited only one tomb out of 90 is open to the public.

The greatest archaeological site in Colombia is near the remote village of San Agustín – its statues give the moai of Easter Island a run for their money.

San Agustín is effectively a staggeringly impressive open-air archaeological park. It is almost impossible to describe how beautiful, strange and potent the place is. Hundreds of huge, mysterious statues stand around the village, for a radius of about 15km. Nothing is known about the people who carved them, but archaeologists estimate they date from 3,300 BC; they were discovered only 80 years ago.

The biggest concentration of statues is about four kilometres out of the village, at a spot where a park and museum have been created around five main sites where statues cluster. Walking trails link the five sites, each of which is weirder than the next.

Tombs were found at all these locations, and each is covered with huge carved-stone slabs. Since they were discovered the slabs have been erected, so that they are now vertical.

All have one striking thing in common. Whether the statues and carvings are of people, animals or imaginary creatures, they all look utterly ferocious. Every mouth has bared teeth, two of them filed like daggers, every expression looks almost malevolent; all is latent and strange and haunting, especially in such a bucolically lovely setting as this.

This unforgettable place was my stand-out highlight of Colombia, and to my shame I’d never heard of it before arriving in the country. It’s not easy to get to, and the unpaved road is often blocked by landslides, but it is so worth the journey.

My charming hotel, El Jardín, where I was the only guest, was an old colonial building with wooden floors, green shutters and pink geraniums outside my window, with a resident ever-awake parrot in the courtyard that screeched “ Buenos ” at me every time I came and went.

The parrot at least was alive: nailed to the wall outside my door were the remains of 12 birds, reptiles and other creatures, among them an anaconda skin, a turtle shell, a caiman skin, a buffalo’s head and a puma skin.

I also walked to two other isolated sites – you can rent horses if you don’t want to walk – on the other side of the village. One of these was La Chaquira, a huge boulder with figures carved on three sides.

It was halfway down the most beautiful gorge I have seen, a place where a chain of four waterfalls throw themselves downwards, where a river carves its way through the floor of the valley, where the sun is burningly hot and the air alive with secrets.

“Colombia, the only risk is wanting to stay.” It was true for the dozens of backpackers I met who had overstayed their two-month visas and had no intention of leaving any time soon.





Where to stay

La Caña, 00-57-6-3365589, fincahotelelbosque.com. Simple, lovely colonial plantation house with zip-wire rides through the jungle. Doubles from $66 (€45).

HostelTrail Popayán. Carrera 11 4-16, Popayán, 00-57-2-8317871, hosteltrail popayan.com. Pristine hostel whose helpful owners can give you oodles of information. Doubles €11.

El Jardín Casa Colonial. Carrera 11 4-10, San Agustín, 00-57-8-8373455, hosteltrail.com/eljardin. 10 simple rooms near the archaeological site. Doubles €7.

Where to eat

Colombia’s fabulous roadside juice stands are constantly busy, whizzing mangoes, lulos , blackberries, oranges, pineapples and more into delicious juices for no more than 50c for a large glass.

Guinea pig, or cuy , is a popular traditional dish.

Casa Vieja. Avenida Jimenez 3-57, Bogota, 00-57-91- 3348908. Famous for its ajiaco (potato soup), fritanga (mixed meat), and mazamorra chiquita (tripe, rib and pea soup).

Where to go

Forget Peru’s Inca Trail. Trek to the ruined Ciudad Perdida (Lost City) instead, in Tayrona National Park. Discovered in 1975, the 1,300-year-old city, which covers 400 hectares, is on a tough five-day, 20km trek – don’t be fooled by the seemingly short distance – through humid jungle, chest-high rivers and

voracious mosquitoes. Even though the military guards the route, you must trek with a guided group. One recommended organiser is Turcol (turcol.i8.com); its groups leave from Santa Marta and Taganga. Book locally.

Go safely

You can take a bus from Ecuador or Venezuela when the border is open; always find out the latest political situation locally before travelling.

Don’t even think about crossing the Darién Gap from Panama. One of the world’s most dangerous borders, it is a notorious drug route.

Private yachts sail between Panama and Cartagena, often stopping at islands en route. Advertised locally.

Don’t go alone......copied/pasted from the Times...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:49 pm 
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Swap I think you will do just fine and have a great time with that amount of cash (2-3k) for about 6 weeks (living in hostels of course) hotels and restaraunts are the big money waster (assuming chicas are good value and not wasted dollars). Bring along a credit card and if you really want to stay the last two weeks charge 500-800 the last two weeks and pay it down when you get back and are working. CR is less dangerous than mexico for homicide etc but CR has more petty crime and pick pockets than mexico especially the chicas will be going for that 2k in your wallet....get travelers checks for sure since you are hostelling it and down there for a while.

Colombia you will get more bang for your buck on all fronts food rent etc.. However CR has a lot of cool stuff to see and do that are more easy to do...volcanos beaches etc. its more set up for hostellers and backpackers than colombia.. Go to the pacific coast and you will meet many backpackers and surfers that you can travel with and get info from..imho you will not find as many fellow backpackers in Colombia


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