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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:45 pm 
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This is all second hand news...

I heard from one of the young Army guys staying at SL that he had a very interesting evening:

-1 He parted company with his amigos sometime during the late night.

-2 He had been drinking heavily.

-3 He was carrying over $200 in cash.

-4 He picked up two KL girls who wanted to take him dancing at a Tico disco. He thought that would be a good idea.

-5 He got in a cab with the two chicas and let them take him wherever they wanted to go.

Some time later in some unknown part of SJ, he reported that they were passing some kind of club and there was an altercation going on outside. Suddenly, one of the arguing men pulled a gun and shot the other man multiple times. The gringo said that both girls and the cab driver ducked down and they were able to depart the scene.

Let's keep using our heads out there, amigos. This could have turned out very badly for our gringo brother. I'll let others suggest what he might have done better...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:28 pm 
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I have to disagree a little bit here.

While many of us like to play it safe, others like a little excitement off the beaten path. I think an army guy can take care of himself.

If all you do is stick to the beaten path, you don't get to fully experience life or Costa Rica. You need to take some chances to get the full deal. However, that means being prepared to accept the consequences.


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I have to disagree a little bit here.

While many of us like to play it safe, others like a little excitement off the beaten path. I think an army guy can take care of himself.

If all you do is stick to the beaten path, you don't get to fully experience life or Costa Rica. You need to take some chances to get the full deal. However, that means being prepared to accept the consequences.

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-1 He parted company with his amigos sometime during the late night.

-2 He had been drinking heavily.

-3 He was carrying over $200 in cash.

-4 He picked up two KL girls who wanted to take him dancing at a Tico disco. He thought that would be a good idea.

-5 He got in a cab with the two chicas and let them take him wherever they wanted to go.

Five serious errors. He is lucky to be alive or at the very least not mugged and injured. He needs some serious education on the dangers that can happen when you get careless.

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TheMadGerman wrote:
If all you do is stick to the beaten path, you don't get to fully experience life or Costa Rica. You need to take some chances to get the full deal.

:shock: Come on now. Are you serious? Taking chances is one thing, but willingly putting yourself in harm's way is not my idea of a good time. I'm sorry, but most of us have been able to experience "the full deal" without making the mistakes that this guy made. :roll:

Naturally, YMMV! :?

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TheMadGerman wrote:
I have to disagree a little bit here.

While many of us like to play it safe, others like a little excitement off the beaten path. I think an army guy can take care of himself.

If all you do is stick to the beaten path, you don't get to fully experience life or Costa Rica. You need to take some chances to get the full deal. However, that means being prepared to accept the consequences.

STOP SMOKING CRACK!


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-1 He parted company with his amigos sometime during the late night.

-2 He had been drinking heavily.

-3 He was carrying over $200 in cash.

-4 He picked up two KL girls who wanted to take him dancing at a Tico disco. He thought that would be a good idea.

-5 He got in a cab with the two chicas and let them take him wherever they wanted to go.

Five serious errors. He is lucky to be alive or at the very least not mugged and injured. He needs some serious education on the dangers that can happen when you get careless.


1- We always part ways with our amigos when they pull chicas upstairs.
2- We always drink heavily.
3- We always carry enough money, just in case we need a 3some with two "cien chicas".

4 & 5 were the errors in bad judgement. 1, 2, & 3 were expert mongering.


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If I drink to get really phucked up- I want to make sure that I have a wingman to back me up. Otherwise, moderate drinking is in order.While I am all for living on the wild side- this is best done close to sober. The other points are judgment calls based upon feel and knowledge of the town/culture and your capacity to judge character I have gone to clubs with women that I don't know before, but certainly would want to know a bit about it so I can check it out. Again, not best to explore the unknown drunk of your butt and without back up.

200 bucks in cash is no big deal if you are willing to give it up and do not flash it around. In some ways, having some extra money can help you get out of situations that become tight.

On the other hand- if you are bringing girls back to you room- why have that much on hand.

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Oceanandsun wrote:

1- We always part ways with our amigos when they pull chicas upstairs.
2- We always drink heavily.
3- We always carry enough money, just in case we need a 3some with two "cien chicas".

4 & 5 were the errors in bad judgement. 1, 2, & 3 were expert mongering.


You gloss over the situation. Staying in the BM or KL when your buddies have taken a chica upstairs does not meet the definition of "parting company with his amigos". Drinking heavily is not only a recipe for disaster it is down right stupid. Your senses are dulled and your judgment impaired as you admit he did in scenario 4 & 5. If you are going to do 2 cien chicas you are going to do at your hotel where cash is readily available.

You may call that expert mongering but I certainly do not and would never want you as a wingman with that outlook. Good luck to you. Sounds like you will need it.

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I am the guy that lives here and am always doing "stupid" things in the eyes of a lot of guys. As I have said many times, "I refuse to live in fear" BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN TAKING SOME RISK (ACCORDING TO SOME) DOING THINGS THAT I AM ACCOSTUME TO DOING AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE JUST STUPID.

1: Sure you may loose your wingman(men), but that is not an invitation to take off on the streets or in a taxi at night by yourself.

2: Drunk gringos are the theives #1 target, and if you are mongering, the two DO NOT REALLY GO TOGETHER--heavy dranking dulls the senses and reduces stamina.

3: Why do you need a lot of money to pay for a 2 or 3some?? AREN'T YOU GOING TO TAKE THE CHICA(S) BACK TO YOUR ROOM??

4 &5: And, yes, 4 &5 are just down right STUPID--NO more than stupid--LUDICROUS.


Yes, this guy (army or no, young or old, strong or weak) was stupid on all counts. There would be a lot less crime on the streets here if people would think with their big head instead of the little one.

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I think you need alot more info to start pointing fingers.

What was the name of this tico disco? Lots of guys would never step foot in a place like Vertigo or El Pueblo, others go there on a regular basis.

Maybe they explained to the guy where the disco was, maybe it was a known spot to us, maybe he thought it was better for the girls to explain to the taxi driver, then for him to ramble on in English and have him misinterpret and take him somewhere random.

As mentioned, if the guy is actively in the military, Im sure he can handle his own to some extent. It might not have been the best choice to wander off solo, but would it have been any different if it was a group of sober guys in a taxi? They were simply driving by a club.

Just my two cents, but cut the guy some slack


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I think you need alot more info to start pointing fingers.

What was the name of this tico disco? Lots of guys would never step foot in a place like Vertigo or El Pueblo, others go there on a regular basis. This was his first trip to Costa Rica and he had no clue where he was going or who he was with.

Maybe they explained to the guy where the disco was, maybe it was a known spot to us, maybe he thought it was better for the girls to explain to the taxi driver, then for him to ramble on in English and have him misinterpret and take him somewhere random. He was bombed out of his socks and anything the chicazs said was fine with him...

As mentioned, if the guy is actively in the military, Im sure he can handle his own to some extent. It might not have been the best choice to wander off solo, but would it have been any different if it was a group of sober guys in a taxi? They were simply driving by a club. He weighs about 140lbs and admits it was a bad move and is thankful to be alive.

Just my two cents, but cut the guy some slack

He completely used up all allotted "slack" that night.


Guys, I didn't post this to be hyper-critical of the gentleman. I posted it to raise awareness in an effort to avoid unpleasant surprises and possibly an early demise.

I am not against a "calculated risk" but getting so plowed that you lose all caution and awareness is not a calculated risk, it is an invitation to get mugged or worse. Crimes against gringos may or may not be on the increase, depending on who you listen to, but the naive errors this young man made could easily have gottn him killed.

This is just my advice and opinion:

-1&2 If you are going to drink to excess (and I know many of us do not) you can minimize risk by limiting your exposure. Stay with a group or stay in a safe environment like the Sportsman's Lodge or your room. Wandering the streets in an obvious drunken state alone is looking for trouble, IMHO.

-3 I see no reason to carry more cash than I expect to spend while I am away from my room. Even if you intend to go to an off-site club like Le Grillon or Molina Rojo the total freight should be well under $200. Pulling out a roll of bills is an invitation to trouble, IMHO.

-4 Going to even the most benign Tico place in the middle of the night with no wingmen, plowed, with two working girls is looking for trouble, in my opinion., especially when you are not a large intimidating individual and he is not large or intimidating.

-5 Who knows where he was being taken? What was to keep these girls from calling a couple accomplices on the ever-present cell phone and setting him up for a beating and robbery? We advise guys not to take a cab from the curb outside DR not only because they get $2 mil colones for a $500 colone ride, but because they could easily be the girls pal waiting for her to bring back a "mark". Handle yourself like he did and you are in "mark" territory, IMHO.

Again, I am not trying to criticize the guy, I am trying to raise awareness of the ugly possibilities when we get too drunk to make sound decisions and decide to go it alone.

This ain't Kansas, Toto! :shock: :twisted: :(

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TheMadGerman wrote:
I have to disagree a little bit here.

While many of us like to play it safe, others like a little excitement off the beaten path. I think an army guy can take care of himself.

If all you do is stick to the beaten path, you don't get to fully experience life or Costa Rica. You need to take some chances to get the full deal. However, that means being prepared to accept the consequences.


I never have agreed with you before MG, but I can agree with this. Some board members are afraid of thier own shadow. Doing it when drunk is not the best idea, but life is an adventure.I have been many strange places at late hours from Spain to Indonesia. Always made it out without a scratch.The shooting could have happened anywhere in the US as well.If it was during the All-Star weekend it happened 6 times in Las Vegas. For those of you guys that seem to be in almost fear mode living in CR, why do you live there again?


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2: Drunk gringos are the theives #1 target, and if you are mongering, the two DO NOT REALLY GO TOGETHER--heavy dranking dulls the senses and reduces stamina.


I was once a drunken sailor, visiting some of the best ports in the Far East. I am VERY lucky. Now I have a better time, spend less money, stay out of trouble and remember everything I do. All because I no longer drink. Go figure. DUH!


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