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In my limited experience with TLN (since it isn't my prefrence) I have found that chicas may want to spend the night in a hotel where she might get breakfast in the morning and be able to take a hot shower rather than go home and get a take a cold shower in a crappy bathroom.

And your odds should be better later in the night. If the chica does not think she can go back to BM or KL after your session and pick up another, she is more likely to stay with you.


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Why pay them to sleep? Unless you can get a great deal, you'll probably pay triple for two leches (orgasms).

OTOH, if you're eager to do the TLN thing, Crooked is absolutely correct. Consider these points:

* Many girls have to travel by bus (or by taxi if she's making good money) anywhere from 10 minutes (in town) to 20 minutes (Guadalupe) to 45 minutes or more.

* As Crooked points out, maybe the lure of a hot shower, nice TV, good bed/linens and breakfast will be too much for her to resist.

* Believe it or not, you may satisfy a very basic feminine emotional need by permitting her to remain in your bed. YMMV.

Given these points, it should be easy to negotiate a TLN, if that's what you want. In my limited experience, the best time to suggest a TLN is when she's still naked in your bed. "Quisiera desayunar desnudo contigo" )("I would want to have breakfast with you, naked") is a wonderful way to suggest that she stay. Alternately, simply whispering "Quedase" might be enough.

Another useful Spanish phrase.... "Ronco mucho" (I snore a lot). :lol:

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I forgot. You also asked about the best place to find a lady for a TLN.

My answer would be that it's more about the chica than the venue. The few TLN's I have done have all been with girls I met at the SL, but you'd probably be able to find TLN prospects at any venue where girls are seeking customers, except the strip clubs where the girls typically work until 5:00 a.m.

Another point I missed is that you should be able to find out if she is available for TLN without ever actually suggesting it by asking if she has bebes at home she'll need to rush home to. Also, as I mentioned above, if she's got a long way to travel to get home, she will probably want to spend the whole night in your bed.

Finally, most girls have a keen survival instinct. They won't want to spend the night with you if they perceive you as a creep, a psycho or a threat.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:04 am 
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Toda La Noche - Is this easier to negotiate later in the evening, say after midnight? I would think that a chica would want a higher price if it was early in the evening.

IMO, it's usually much cheaper for a TLN after midnight. But like El Ciego mentioned - if there's no "chemistry" between you, she'll probably not be interested. If you're a nice guy, respectful with some basic hygiene, she'll probably be more apt to stay the night with you versus some guy with stale beer breath with a french fry stuck in his beard from lunch.

Another factor is whether or not she has an amiga at the bar with her. Many of these chicas travel with a wing-woman, and they want to get you off, and get back to the bar with their amiga.

Also, ask her if she has any hijos. Many of the chicas with little ones at home will not do a TLN. Or if they do, they must leave by 5 a.m. so they can get home before the hijo wakes up.

One more thing... Sometimes you don't even have to negotiate the TLN. Depending on the time of night, just negotiate a couple hours with her. And afterwards (if she's comfortable with you) many times they'll ask if they can stay all night.

There are no "set" rules for a TLN. Every chica is different, and has a different situation. Don't try to over-think or analyze it. Just go there, play with the chicas and let the cards fall where they may.

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Everything posted here by MG, EL CIEGO, AND CROOKED is right on 8) :!: :!:

ESPECIALLY THE: WHY PAY HER TO SLEEP :?: :?: :idea: :roll: :?

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ESPECIALLY THE: WHY PAY HER TO SLEEP :?: :?: :idea: :roll: :?


Why pay her for sex then? Your hand would work just as well.

Sometimes it is nice to spend the night without someone you like and know versus just banging some chica then sending her on her way. While it may work for some guys, it doesn't work for everyone. In Thailand, if you barfine a girl at night, it is assumed she is staying the night. It was nice to wakeup for mandatory morning boom boom.

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...Sometimes it is nice to spend the night without someone you like and know versus just banging some chica then sending her on her way.

Although it gives me great pain to say this - I must agree here with Spanky! :P

I enjoy a good pump and run as much as the next guy, but I also love spending 3 or 4 hours in the room, playing in the jacuzzi, kissing in the shower, rolling 'round on la cama until I'm thoroughly drained. Then spending the next 3 or 4 hours lying naked next to a beautiful young naked body. Then waking up, taking care of the morning wood, and then showering and going to breakfast.

We all roll a little different, and there are just too many ways to play the P4P game - to think that any one person's S.O.P. is the only way or the best way. As long as you're enjoying yourself for one hour at a time - or all night long, that's all that counts.

I never pay a chica to sleep. I simply compensate them for giving me pleasure(s), regardless of what time they arrive or leave my room! 8)
As always, YMMV (and probably will).

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Seems that I am following MG today...a good place to be because he gives excellent salient advice, in my opinion.

Living here, I get my share of TLNs. My best TLNs are completely unplanned, usually, with someone I have been with before and enjoy. After the "main event", if I enjoy the girl's company, I will tell her she is welcome to stay as long as she likes (but I will not pay her more than we agreed).

One of my favoritas has a habit of saying she can only stay for a few hours, then later she makes a phone call and gets freed up from her morning Mama activities and announces she can stay the night. A welcome declaration! :D

So, I guess I would recommend not hunting with a TLN in mind. Rather, look for the great connection and let the TLN happen! :wink:

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Mucho Gusto wrote:
Spanky wrote:
...Sometimes it is nice to spend the night without someone you like and know versus just banging some chica then sending her on her way.



We all roll a little different, and there are just too many ways to play the P4P game - to think that any one person's S.O.P. is the only way or the best way. As long as you're enjoying yourself for one hour at a time - or all night long, that's all that counts.


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Bien dicho MG! We all have different ways of working the chicas based on our individual styles. I recently had 3 TLNs in Mde. and none of them were planned.(the time just flew and i was on cloud 9)!The chicas didn't want to leave and who was i to argue. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:49 am 
This is better than I expected.

It seems as though the TLN is usually no extra charge.

If the chica likes you and it's kinda late, she hopes that you LET HER stay overnight.

That's a beautiful thing.

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As with most things, it really depends on the chica.

I was hanging with some guys one night at the DR, and one wanted a TLN, and he kept getting offers of $300. This was even later in the evening.

Like others have said, if you want TLN on the cheap, it's best to get it after the fact, and let them know you won't be paying extra. But it's a crap shoot whether she'll take you up on it or not.


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I disagree with the notion of getting it "after the fact". That is a set up for not geting what you want. This is my party, and I try to make sure I control what which I can control. 300 for TLN is usually quoted by hard core girls with tit jobs- fine if that is your thing. To spend a TLN, I want a GFE. In my experience, girls that are less hard core, less "engendered", and less likley to run in packs are far more game. Will a 100 an hour girl spend the whole night for 120 or so? Of course not. But, a very hot, 8 plus Nica that you make a good connection with, mostly likely will. In general, I also find that it takes far more negotiation, so start early and talk to a bunch of the girls. Chatting is free, and gives you a good sense of their attitude. Tell them how you like to be treated, and if they find it odd or bizzar, or you sense they are not going to give you want you want- move on. Trusting your gut and being willing to act on your feelings is essential. I wish I had a dime for every post I have read where the monger says "I had a feeling, but she looked so fine."

Finding a TLN for a good price will demand some work- don't be shy, interview away!

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TLN's can be fun if you really like the girl and you guys have more to say then just "hola".

Some say why pay her to sleep, so I guess the inference there is that a lot of sleeping is going on. TLN to me means you will be phucking practically TLN.

I find a lot of girls are down to stay for however long. But at the same time I never leave with a girl if she plans on going back to the DR that night.

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