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It is for the privilege of taking a girl out of the establishment. Compensation for money they would make otherwise. I have only done it at Molino Rojo, where it is 10k colones and then you negotiate with the girl directly. In CR for the most part it is easy to just schedule to meet the girl outside of work.

"Bar fines" are much more prevalent in the far east than in CR. Most venues don't employ the ladies so there is no "bar fine" (Del Rey, Key Largo, Sportsman's Lodge...no bar fines).

Bar fines/EWR's are used in Asia because prostitution is illegal. Even though the districts are overseen and sometimes ran by corrupt police, it helps keep away outside pressure from the West and activist groups.

In a sense, like mentioned, its to compensate the bar for money they are losing. If you have a bunch of stunners running around your bar, it helps attract customers, which in turn increases profit. If the girls are simply able to come and go with customers during their shift, then the bar would be losing possible business. So in turn, they charge a fee, and everyone is happy.

In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. In Thailand, you pay the bar fine, then negotiate with the girl a price as she receives nothing from the bar fine, and in Cambodia its a mix of both.

Most places I have seen, use the Thailand system more so then the AC system

Bktuna just rereshed an idea I had before. On future trips, I can get chicas #'s and hook up with them later. I'm sure you regulars employ the same tactics. In PI they call that a "sneak out". Actually though it's not a sneak out because the chica would be on her own time anyways..LOL

I know they have a bar fine at Idem. I bar fined Melissa out of there on my last trip. At the time it was 30k to take her out for the night.

In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut.

Jmacaula wrote:

In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut.

So AC has a different method? You pay the bar to take the girl out and then no money is given directly to the girl, is that correct? Is the fine the same for all the girls?

Thanks fellas...

PHX

Jmacaula wrote:

In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut.

So AC has a different method? You pay the bar to take the girl out and then no money is given directly to the girl, is that correct? Is the fine the same for all the girls?

Thanks fellas...

PHX

Author:	Phoenix Rising [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:07 pm ]
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Newbie question here, guys, because I have yet to actually pay a BAR FINE so I don't quite understand the dynamics here. Looking to expand my mongering experiences to venues where this is the norm and best I get my head 'round the concept. The money you pay the BAR...what is it FOR? Does the employee (the chica) still get paid her wages for the night out of this money? Or is it a "commission" or "finder's fee" or is it the cost incurred for finding another chica to take her place at the club? Or what? Thanks, PHX

Author:	Bktuna [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:29 pm ]
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It is for the privilege of taking a girl out of the establishment. Compensation for money they would make otherwise. I have only done it at Molino Rojo, where it is 10k colones and then you negotiate with the girl directly. In CR for the most part it is easy to just schedule to meet the girl outside of work. BKTUNA I am never going home

Author:	Pacifica55 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:21 pm ]
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"Bar fines" are much more prevalent in the far east than in CR. Most venues don't employ the ladies so there is no "bar fine" (Del Rey, Key Largo, Sportsman's Lodge...no bar fines).

Author:	Ciaociao32001 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:26 pm ]
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I think there is a bar fine if you take a chica out of Idem during working hours, but I don't know the amount. However, as BKTuna says, and in keeping with my own personal experience, you can arrange with an Idem girl to meet you at your place after working hours, with no fine. They usually leave work 11:00-11:30ish. Ciaociao

Author:	Phoenix Rising [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:46 pm ]
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Bktuna wrote: It is for the privilege of taking a girl out of the establishment. Compensation for money they would make otherwise. I have only done it at Molino Rojo, where it is 10k colones and then you negotiate with the girl directly. In CR for the most part it is easy to just schedule to meet the girl outside of work. Interesting. I know guys have gotten 25k TLN's out of Molino but I had no idea there was a bar fine there. But it makes sense that since the bar facilitated the transaction by providing the venue. It's reasonable and they are only charging what is equivalent mas o menos to their end of one session. Pacifica55 wrote: "Bar fines" are much more prevalent in the far east than in CR. Most venues don't employ the ladies so there is no "bar fine" (Del Rey, Key Largo, Sportsman's Lodge...no bar fines). Actually my curiosity was roused after I did a little reading about Angeles City in the Phillipines. So am I to assume that only bars with on-site options would normally charge a bar fine? Or does say, a strip-club w/o this option charge a fee as well? Also, I have been reading up on Sosua and it seems they have a similar system to Asia. Thanks, PHX

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Author:	Jmacaula [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:56 pm ]
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Bar fines/EWR's are used in Asia because prostitution is illegal. Even though the districts are overseen and sometimes ran by corrupt police, it helps keep away outside pressure from the West and activist groups. In a sense, like mentioned, its to compensate the bar for money they are losing. If you have a bunch of stunners running around your bar, it helps attract customers, which in turn increases profit. If the girls are simply able to come and go with customers during their shift, then the bar would be losing possible business. So in turn, they charge a fee, and everyone is happy. In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. In Thailand, you pay the bar fine, then negotiate with the girl a price as she receives nothing from the bar fine, and in Cambodia its a mix of both. Most places I have seen, use the Thailand system more so then the AC system

Author:	Diego1 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:22 pm ]
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Jmacaula wrote: Bar fines/EWR's are used in Asia because prostitution is illegal. Even though the districts are overseen and sometimes ran by corrupt police, it helps keep away outside pressure from the West and activist groups. In a sense, like mentioned, its to compensate the bar for money they are losing. If you have a bunch of stunners running around your bar, it helps attract customers, which in turn increases profit. If the girls are simply able to come and go with customers during their shift, then the bar would be losing possible business. So in turn, they charge a fee, and everyone is happy. In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. In Thailand, you pay the bar fine, then negotiate with the girl a price as she receives nothing from the bar fine, and in Cambodia its a mix of both. Most places I have seen, use the Thailand system more so then the AC system Correct! Good post Jamac. Let me add that bars using the "bar fine" system not only make money from selling guys drinks, but also make tons of money selling "ladies drinks" at marked up prices. Stunners In PI and LOS nowadays are even refusing to go with customers because they can make more in "ladies drinks" which they get a cut of. Instead of getting bounded they can make their money in the bar just C*ck teasing guys..LOL Bktuna just rereshed an idea I had before. On future trips, I can get chicas #'s and hook up with them later. I'm sure you regulars employ the same tactics. In PI they call that a "sneak out". Actually though it's not a sneak out because the chica would be on her own time anyways..LOL

Author:	Phoenix Rising [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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Diego1 wrote: Bktuna just rereshed an idea I had before. On future trips, I can get chicas #'s and hook up with them later. I'm sure you regulars employ the same tactics. In PI they call that a "sneak out". Actually though it's not a sneak out because the chica would be on her own time anyways..LOL I've done this with MP chicas I've had excellent service with, but in reality I haven't called and made off site appointments all that often. If I'm engaged with a chica at a particular venue and the blood is flowing south, then it needs to be taken care of sooner, rather than later. Tomorrow I'll be hunting for something else, new and fresh. So I guess I'd just pay the fine in most cases.

Author:	Cajunman [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:35 pm ]
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I know they have a bar fine at Idem. I bar fined Melissa out of there on my last trip. At the time it was 30k to take her out for the night.

Author:	Diego1 [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:37 pm ]
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Cajunman wrote: I know they have a bar fine at Idem. I bar fined Melissa out of there on my last trip. At the time it was 30k to take her out for the night. I'm just curious if the 30k included the "action" or if that was to be negotiated separately? I was in Idem last week and sensed it was a clip joint as they hacked us on the drink prices. They had a few chicas but did'nt do any. Heard they just raised their rates.

Author:	Mike321 [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:10 pm ]
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A little reading/research would have answered this question.

Author:	Witling [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:33 pm ]
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In Medellin the "bar fine" aka "multa" at Fase Dos or San Diego (strip clubs with onside facilities and "hostesses" that don't dance) is equivalent to one onsite "session". Expensive? You bet so it better be worth it to you. If you can't negotiate a TLN or at least a couple hours you may as well just enjoy the onsite rooms. In Thailand if you find someone you like or you want to see later you had better "pay bar" right then or she may be gone before you get the chance. Also if she's a stunner there is a chance a guy could keep her for mulitple days and you may never get your chance. With girls getting only 2 or 3 days off a month and working from around 7PM to 2AM there isn't much downtime to hook up with them. If you wait until they are done working they may just prefer to go home after shuffling on stage and/or drinking for 6-8 hours. I missed out on a tag-team session in Pattaya because a guy paid the bar fine for both of them the DAY BEFORE! It's a classic "snooze you lose" scenario.

Author:	Phoenix Rising [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:05 pm ]
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Jmacaula wrote: In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. So AC has a different method? You pay the bar to take the girl out and then no money is given directly to the girl, is that correct? Is the fine the same for all the girls? Thanks fellas... PHX

Author:	Diego1 [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:19 pm ]
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Phoenix Rising wrote: Jmacaula wrote: In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. So AC has a different method? You pay the bar to take the girl out and then no money is given directly to the girl, is that correct? Is the fine the same for all the girls? Thanks fellas... PHX Yes, unless they changed it recently that is correct. The girl recieves her cut directly from the bar. As far as I know the barfine is the same for all the girls in a given bar, although barfines can vary from bar to bar. Thats how it works in d PI. Also, from what I read/hear lately paying the barfine does'nt always guarantee "action" the way it used to. With the internet and cell phones etc.. things have changed alot in the Phils as you can imagine.

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Author:	Jmacaula [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:26 am ]
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Phoenix Rising wrote: Jmacaula wrote: In AC, the barfine includes the girls cut. So AC has a different method? You pay the bar to take the girl out and then no money is given directly to the girl, is that correct? Is the fine the same for all the girls? Thanks fellas... PHX For the most part correct. A few bars, mainly off the top of my head; Las Vegas, Agasya, Dollhouse, and Atlantis, have "showgirls", which warrant a difference price. Those bars all have 2 tiers, regular dancers, and showgirls. In a place like dollhouse, the showgirls are something stupid like 3000peso. In other words, they dont get barfined to often. But yes, nothing is paid to the girl directly, aside from a tip if you feel that is appropriate.