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Author:  HTP [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Returning to your favorita
I have a question for you veterans. So you've found a chica whose company you enjoy and look forward to seeing her on your return visits. You may talk to her on the phone or via e-mail. You look forward to spending at least some of your time with her when you return to San Jose. You tell her when you plan on returning, and she shows excitement that she'll be seeing you, and even though you know it's most likely not entirely genuine, you feel excitement too. So you plan to see her when you return, and she readily agrees.

My question is how do you go about finding out how much you'll be spending on her? The more you get to know someone and treat her as a genuine person, the harder it is to come out and ask "How much will you charge for x hours or for TLN when I return?" I know that I will have to pay her when I see her (she hasn't sent me any RFM's), but I have no idea how much. As of right now, I'm planning on dealing with the situation when I see her in person.

What do you guys do? I hear a lot of you talk about setting dates and seeing your regulars when you return. Do you set the price beforehand or wait until you see her? And if you wait until you see her in person, when do you bring it up? After a few drinks, or right when she walks in the door? Thanks for your input.
Author:  Sam [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:24 pm ]
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Good question HTP, as a newbie also I am looking forward to the vets imput. But to be honest I would not set up a meet I would just let fate work and if I saw her I would grab her. I would do this because I understand that I could easily be hooked by a good looking Chica and have my nice world turned up side down. Be carful brother and good luck!
Author:  Lee [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Pricing
HTP:

I do not want to leave the impression that this is a regular activity with me. For the most part repeat performances only occur over two or three visits. After that it's time to move on. That said back to the pricing thing. It's my experience that the price is the same but the time is longer. If I have seen her two or three times for an hour or two for $80 after developing a relationship with ( my definition of a relationship is me remember her name and she remembers mine ) I find they expect the same amount of money but will stay longer and may even go out and have dinner and drinks.

Lee
Author:  HTP [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Returning to your favorita
HTP wrote:
My question is how do you go about finding out how much you'll be spending on her?

Pacifica55 wrote:
Okay, you are already showing weakness in the way you asked the question: How do you "find out how much you will be spending on her"? Why not decide in advance how much you are willing to spend on her? You know, as if you had some control over your wallet and your pecker? :lol:


Let me clarify that. I intended to ask "At what point do you ask her how much she will cost?" I don't mean to say that she's going to tell me how much she wants and I'll blindly say yes; I just want to know at what point is it good to bring up money, or should I just wait until she brings it up? Which works better?


Pacifica55 wrote:
Seriously, the way you approach the issue will decide how much you pay: If you come at he situation as you described, "how much will I be spending", you have already capitulated on price, you just want to know how much it is going to cost you. She will pick up on that and you will pay for it. She owns you.

If, on the other hand, you let her know that she is special and muy bonita, just like 100 others in the gulch and, yes, you would like to be with her, or another like her, you will have the power in the negotiation. This is important. She needs you more than you need her. Let her think it is the other way around and she will be leading you around like a pull-toy. :shock:


I do have a price in mind and do not intend to let her set it for me. I only spent time with her once on my first trip, but that was because it was my last night there when I found her, and I had an early flight the next day. I paid her $200 for a TLN. I know it was a little high and I could've negotiated for less, but I wanted the experience of a TLN to see if I'd like it. It was a great experience, and I was more comfortable with her than I was with any other chica. I don't mind paying her that much for it, provided she earns it like she did last time. I'm just hoping that I can keep that price and get her to stay longer if we do a few TLN's this trip.

Pacifica55 wrote:
CAUTION: You are talking like you got your heart caught up in there somewhere. American men are famous for declaring our undying devotion, then making a complete ass of themselves proving it. Van Gogh may have really impressed her with the ear trick, but I bet he didn't end up with her. Displays of devotion are a power dump where we give her all of ours and wait to see what she will do with the carcass, she owns it.


You hit the nail on the head there. My heart was caught up with her earlier, but I've wisened up. Of course, I read the thread on "Your Novia is a prostitute." But I still want to spend most of my time with her when I'm there. I have a good comfort level with her, and that's very important for me. I'm going solo this trip so it'll be nice to have a familiar face in an unfamiliar city. I'm not sure if I'll hook up with other CRT members while there, but I will spend some time at the SL and try to chat a bit.

Pacifica55 wrote:
Buck up and be a man and never let her forget that "beat it, toots" is a definite possibility forestalled only by her best performance and behavior.


Well I'm the one traveling there and I'm the one spending money, so it's my decision who I spend time with. She definitely needs to understand that. I will definitely pick up a few ladies at the Del Rey and Blue Marlin, and she'll just have to deal with that. No MP's this trip unless a CRT bro talks me into it.

Pacifica55 wrote:
Well, you asked what time it was and I built you a watch...sorry. Good luck.


Well, it's always nice to have a lot to say about something than nothing to say about anything. Thanks for your input.
Author:  Orange [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Returning to your favorita
HTP wrote:
I have a question for you veterans. So you've found a chica whose company you enjoy and look forward to seeing her on your return visits. You may talk to her on the phone or via e-mail. You look forward to spending at least some of your time with her when you return to San Jose. You tell her when you plan on returning, and she shows excitement that she'll be seeing you, and even though you know it's most likely not entirely genuine, you feel excitement too. So you plan to see her when you return, and she readily agrees.

My question is how do you go about finding out how much you'll be spending on her? The more you get to know someone and treat her as a genuine person, the harder it is to come out and ask "How much will you charge for x hours or for TLN when I return?" I know that I will have to pay her when I see her (she hasn't sent me any RFM's), but I have no idea how much. As of right now, I'm planning on dealing with the situation when I see her in person.

What do you guys do? I hear a lot of you talk about setting dates and seeing your regulars when you return. Do you set the price beforehand or wait until you see her? And if you wait until you see her in person, when do you bring it up? After a few drinks, or right when she walks in the door? Thanks for your input.

HTP,
It sounds like you are not looking for a novia but more of a regular or a favorita. In this case, I think you should sit down and talk to her. Think of it as a "business meeting". And don't discard the possibility that she does like you for real (no matter how much), aside from the fact she is happy to make money.

I would sit her down and tell her what's up, "Look, I enjoy spending time with you and hopefully you do with me. I want to see you every time I'm in town. I am not looking for a novia (so she doesn't get misled). We can go out to dinners, dancing, whatever. I would like you to spend the night with me sometimes, but I also will see other women. Again, I'm not looking for a novia. I need to know, if we spend time together, how much will you charge me? I don't want to be treated as another dumb gringo and I won't treat you like a puta."

I know it may be a bit awkward but you seem to want to keep this at a business level, so I think doing it this way gets right to the point with no chance of anybody being misled about anybody's intentions. Negotiate everything, just like you would any other time. But you should be careful here since you've already admitted having feelings for this girl.
Author:  DrForm [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:06 pm ]
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Great advice Orange.I have a couple favoritas in Mexico and i use a similar strategy with them.If you up front with what you expect there won't be surprises.
Author:  Berk2302 [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:07 pm ]
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HTP..... let me interject my thoughts... especially since you mentioned the thread I started a while back about "waking up and smelling the coffee... your novia is a hooker" or something like that.

P4P is a business relationship first and foremost. Anytime is a good time to bring up the question of money. He who has the gold makes the rules... as they say. She is in the DR for business. She's hanging with you because you have money. She makes herself available because she needs to make money. With that in mind "it's all about the money". The level of service is not tied to the amount of money in many cases though. Romance and "love" probably doesn't even cross her mind.... it's all make-believe 99.975% of the time.

With that in mind be upfront and direct. It's that simple. How much is it going to cost you.... what Lee said is the best rule of thumb. It you want to pay less... speak up. She haggles over "cost" almost everytime she hooks up... especially if it's with a vet.

Remember... you make the rules on what you want to do with what's in your pocket. She's fully aware and may or may not work with you. If not... like we say... NEXT! :)

Berk.....
Author:  Diablo [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:22 am ]
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HTP-
I've fallen into a somewhat strange arrangement with a hot colombiana that I started seeing over 2 1/2 years ago. She was introduced to me by a group of colombianas that I have known in Jaco for years. We "dated" a few times on a few of my trips, all TLNs/ $100, until I felt comfortable enough with her to spend a whole trip with her. I was in the same quandary as you as to how much to pay her for 24/7 service for 3 weeks. Now I knew that she was a hardcore cien/ hour colombiana, however she had always been with me TLN for a cien, so I just figured that cien per day would be fine. I payed her every morning and it worked out just fine without even discussing it with her. We have now spent 14 luna de miels together, as I have found that I can trust her, she advises me on all things latino, picks me up and drops me off at the airport, buys regalos for my family( some of whom have met her), calls me once a week if she doesn't hear from me by email, and takes care of my dirty work 3/4 times per day sin condom( since she has determined that I am her novio), and never one RFM. Don't get me wrong, I ain't in luv(whatever that is), and I do miss boinking 3/4 different chicas per day, but this current arrangement has proven to be very comfortable. Upon each trip now, I give her a lump sum of $$ based on the number of full days that I am there, and take her to the bank to deposit it, hence $$ is never an issue on the trip. She has never questioned or commented on what I give her, but to me, I am saving money by not paying 3/4 other chicas per day. This is just an example of how arrangements with chicas can work, not that I am advising you to do it, just what has worked for me in this particular situation. Buena suerte
Author:  HTP [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:56 pm ]
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Thanks for all your advice guys.

Orange, my problem is that I never know what I want. As of right now, I want to spend most of my time with her. But I'm a creature of familiarity, and that might change if I meet someone else at the HDR. In her e-mails, she calls me her novio. I flirt with her and such, but I don't think I'm leading her on. I can't tell how genuine her feelings for me are, but I won't immediately discard them because she's a prostitute. I always try to be respectful and polite. Firm when necessary.. Before I head down there though I will tell her that I plan on seeing other ladies too. She did tell me once, "No chicas, estoy muy celosa." It was kind of endearing but it's not something I'll adhere to.

Berk, I know you constantly hammer it into us newbies, but we need to keep in mind that it's all about business relationships there. It may be something else too, but until she stops prostituting herself and moves away from the action then business it will remain.

Pacifica, I agree wholeheartedly. If it's all about the money, it'll be mediocre on both ends. In all my sessions, money wasn't a big issue and didn't take up any concern other than the quick negotiation upfront. The money I spend on her isn't a big concern, I just was wondering about a polite time to bring it up. Because it's kind of weird if we're talking like good friends through e-mails and for me to suddenly bring up, "Oh by the way, how much will it cost me to have you sleep beside me for x nights and have sex with me on x days?" I think I'll just go with what I paid earlier and not really bring it up. Now if she argues that that's too little and wants a hell of a lot more, then I'll see she's all about the money and not about a good time and give her the boot. I'm taking time off work, spending fast-depreciating U.S. dollars in a foreign country, and I want to have a good time. Costa Rica feels like an actual VACATION. I hope that feeling exhudes from me and captures her too so we can both have a good time and forget about the business aspect as much as possible.

Diablo, it sounds like you've found an ideal arrangement with your chica. No hassle about money, a woman who treats you nicely and is dependable, and a true GFE experience. And if she satisfies your needs and you're comfortable with her, why do you need to venture out? That's what I'm going for here. I definitely want to see other chicas on my trip (especially want to try the SL talent out), but I want to spend most of my time with my favorita.

Thanks again for the input guys. It's always nice to be able to air out my thoughts and refine them with tips and others' experiences.
Author:  Berk2302 [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:31 pm ]
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Diablo wrote:
...takes care of my dirty work 3/4 times per day sin condom( since she has determined that I am her novio...


Tell us you're just bbbj! :roll: :shock: :roll:

Berk.....
Author:  Berk2302 [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:46 pm ]
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Pacifica55 wrote:
If you make it about the money, it will be about the money. Get the money part over with and with as little focus as possible.

She is not thinking of "love" but she is definitely thinking about attraction. Put yourself in her 4" acrylic heels for a moment: Would you be more attracted to a guy who was focused on a good time or a guy who is more concerned with the cost? Focusing on the money makes it all about the money and will go a long way to ensuring that you have a mediocre time. You are treating her like a puta.

Take a look at the session Shawn4DelRey posted about. Do you think she would have responded like that if he had treated her like a puta? You both know the score. Let her have her fantasy, too, and you will have better sessions.

Orange, I think that is excellent advise. :wink:


All of us only get laid because of the money. Every vet knows this. The quality of service is a different story. That's is never what I make reference to when I write "it's all about the money". Don't confuse the newbies. It starts with the dollar bill newbies and that's where it ends.

The Shawn story is an exception. The vast majority of hookers are not thinking "attraction"... they're thinking "toleration". Her fantasy is going through your pockets for those dollars. :roll:

Berk.....
Author:  Santas Bro [ Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:12 am ]
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HTP Wrote:

Quote:
I can't tell how genuine her feelings for me are......


Tell her that since you are her novio, she doesn't any get money, it is about love. :shock: That should answer your question. :? :cry: NEXT!!!!

Happy holidays.....

Steve - Santas Bro
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