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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:42 pm 
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Scuba, I'm sure your a nice guy....I'll just leave it at that my man.

Yeah, he IS a nice guy!! A bit crazy (maybe a lot), a bit set in his ways (seems to be true of a lot of us-some just can't see it in themselves :idea: ) , a whole lot outspoken especially when he sees what he considers to be stupidity (again true of a lot of people it seems), a lot wiser (than many) about how to do things in a foreign country (such as trying to abide by the customs of the people that are your hosts instead of trying to cram the "Gringo way" down their throats)!!

He understands that in the vast majority of cases, trying to "help" these chicas by giving them "extra' does not and will not work. They (the chicas) will almost never spend it on what they truly need, but instead will throw it away on cloths they don't need, a new phone (when they already have 2 good ones), or even worse, and all too frequently, on drugs!!! And the very next day they will be right back begging for more to "feed their K*ds or pay the rent" :roll: . Most of them, that are not on drugs, are not nearly as "poor" as they want you to believe!!! and if they are, it is usually because of their own stupidity when it comes to how to handle their money which, no matter how much you give them, is not going to change. Explain to me just how someone in a third (or second) world country making as much, or more, per week as the national average income per month is "poor", other than by their own stupidity :idea: Yes, many (most) of them start out very poor, but they stay that way because of the choices THEY make!!!!

Yes he understands that as in all Latin countries, bartering and bargaining (negotiating) are the accepted and expected way of doing business and anyone who doesn't is considered rather stupid :!: :idea: and to be taken advantage of :idea: !! Yes he understands the need to impress that exists in many who come here, the need to be what you can't be when at home or at your job, the need to, for once in your life, be "all that you ever wanted to be", the need to feel you are helping someone (even when you are often hurting them in the long run). Yes he understands the old (and very true) saying-"A fool and his money are soon parted" :roll: and as a result he does not throw his money away unnecessarily!! He understands the economics of figuring ALL your costs (transportation, hotel, meals, etc.) into the total cost of a session with a chica here; and HE realizes that if you pay excessive amounts and/or throw huge tips at them, you will end up (happens all to often) spending more that what a "piece of ass" would cost you at home!!!!!

Yes he is who he is, what he is, how he is--A honest, outspoken, opinionated, and intelligent MONGER who knows the true meaning of being a monger and also a kind and helpful person, even if he does rub some the wrong way! And those he does rub the wrong way are often those same ones who have NO concept of reality nor customs in COSTA RICA!!! and want to impose their way of life on a people that are perfectly happy just the way they are (recently rated the happiest people in the world compared to the USA being something like the 150th happiest!!!)

But then all these things that HE understands about MONGERING in Costa Rica (and most other places also) seem to be way above the understanding capabilities of some people!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:10 pm 
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I concur with BB57 on Scuba, even though we never met, I find his posts right on and insightful, even though he dis's my Alma Mater, HDR. :evil:

I forgot, Scuba, ru in S Fla ? Maybe next month we'll call a S. Fla meet up, would enjoy having you attend, we had about 8 guys last get together and had a blast, even though nobody got blown or laid.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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......And I'm not a self-appointed Newbi defender. I'm just someone who will stand-up for what I believe against a bunch of Costa Rica know-it-all's.

Sorry but if you are not (a self appointed newbi defender) what are you?? I have recently heard 3 different guys who do not know each other make that same comment about you, but what is wrong with that? after all, YOU are a newbi also!!!!

And YOU are NOT a Know-it-all :roll: :?: Mister "my way or it is wrong" :roll: :wink: :?: :idea: So far just about every post you have made has been sarcastic and negative. I, for one, am still waiting on your first post that shares any useful information about mongering in Costa Rica instead of just criticizing others (most of whom have many times more experience and Costa Rican knowledge than you) every time they offer an opinion. If we are so wrong, how about offering us your insight and knowledge by explaining just how we are so wrong, and what your "better way" is and why it would be better based on your vast experience in Costa Rica!!!! :idea: :P

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I'm just a guy that comes to Costa Rica for vacation and pu*sy...that's all. I don't tell anyone else what to do or how to spend their money. But when people say dumb shit, I'll call them out on it. Hence the reason I comment on a lot of your info....because you say ALOT of dumb shit! :P


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I'm just a guy that comes to Costa Rica for vacation and pu*sy...that's all. I don't tell anyone else what to do or how to spend their money. But when people say dumb shit, I'll call them out on it. Hence the reason I comment on a lot of your info....because you say ALOT of dumb shit! :P

I am a firm believer in that anyone, no matter how little they may actually know, is entitled to their opinion as long as they have some evidence to back it up! And disagreeing with others in a polite, respectful, and non condescending way, along with, once again, some evidence to back it up, is what makes the world go around. I have no problem with people intelligently disagreeing with my "dumb shit"! Funny thing is a lot of guys with a hell of a lot more time on the ground here than you seem to agree with a lot of my "dumb shit'. And they seem to have a hell of a good time with a lot of very hot chicas with great attitudes and service, all the while spending a LOT less money than a certain guy who "is not going to let anyone tell him how to spend his money"! Believe me I have no desire to tell you anything!! As I have said many times, the more some guys spend on the chicas, the less the same chicas want or need from me!!! So why don't you go play with yourself and leave us poor "dumb shit" spewing, know nothing, doing it all wrong, miss-treating the chicas, guys to our misery. You are not going to change us and I would not even try, nor want to change you!!!!! AND, no matter how "dumb shit" it is, when guys do stupid things that make ALL gringos look like idiots and stupid to the locals I will continue to call them on it!!!

Have a good day!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:54 pm 
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Enjoy your day BB57.


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Enjoy your day BB57.

Thanks, I enjoy EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :wink: :twisted:

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This is riveting.


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This is riveting.


This is mild, see "CRT losing it's luster?" for real fisticuffs... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Netgems wrote:
Jackietrehorn wrote:
This is riveting.


This is mild, see "CRT losing it's luster?" for real fisticuffs... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Lol Netgems you are too funny! :lol: :lol: I didn't think it was that bad. Years ago when guys got overheated on the board they would physically threaten each other and things of that nature. A good ole head butting contest every now and then is not to bad so long as you dont get to carried away.


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Loco Mike wrote:
Netgems wrote:
Jackietrehorn wrote:
This is riveting.


This is mild, see "CRT losing it's luster?" for real fisticuffs... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Lol Netgems you are too funny! :lol: :lol: I didn't think it was that bad. Years ago when guys got overheated on the board they would physically threaten each other and things of that nature. A good ole head butting contest every now and then is not to bad so long as you dont get to carried away.


Agreed. Things are pretty tame on the board now.


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Agreed. Things are pretty tame on the board now.



How many of you guys remember Berk? He would come on the board and start shit just to start shit, that would make anything happening recently look mild. Then other posters would make up alternate screen names like "Berketta" just to flame him.


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Netgems wrote:
I concur with BB57 on Scuba, even though we never met, I find his posts right on and insightful, even though he dis's my Alma Mater, HDR. :evil:

I forgot, Scuba, ru in S Fla ? Maybe next month we'll call a S. Fla meet up, would enjoy having you attend, we had about 8 guys last get together and had a blast, even though nobody got blown or laid.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



Yes; I live in Miami - I'm going to CR Feb 19 <I think - long story> but if its before that, I'd like to attend :) :) :) :)


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Scuba, I'm sure your a nice guy....I'll just leave it at that my man.

Yeah, he IS a nice guy!! A bit crazy (maybe a lot), a bit set in his ways (seems to be true of a lot of us-some just can't see it in themselves :idea: ) , a whole lot outspoken especially when he sees what he considers to be stupidity (again true of a lot of people it seems), a lot wiser (than many) about how to do things in a foreign country (such as trying to abide by the customs of the people that are your hosts instead of trying to cram the "Gringo way" down their throats)!!

He understands that in the vast majority of cases, trying to "help" these chicas by giving them "extra' does not and will not work. They (the chicas) will almost never spend it on what they truly need, but instead will throw it away on cloths they don't need, a new phone (when they already have 2 good ones), or even worse, and all too frequently, on drugs!!! And the very next day they will be right back begging for more to "feed their K*ds or pay the rent" :roll: . Most of them, that are not on drugs, are not nearly as "poor" as they want you to believe!!! and if they are, it is usually because of their own stupidity when it comes to how to handle their money which, no matter how much you give them, is not going to change. Explain to me just how someone in a third (or second) world country making as much, or more, per week as the national average income per month is "poor", other than by their own stupidity :idea: Yes, many (most) of them start out very poor, but they stay that way because of the choices THEY make!!!!

Yes he understands that as in all Latin countries, bartering and bargaining (negotiating) are the accepted and expected way of doing business and anyone who doesn't is considered rather stupid :!: :idea: and to be taken advantage of :idea: !! Yes he understands the need to impress that exists in many who come here, the need to be what you can't be when at home or at your job, the need to, for once in your life, be "all that you ever wanted to be", the need to feel you are helping someone (even when you are often hurting them in the long run). Yes he understands the old (and very true) saying-"A fool and his money are soon parted" :roll: and as a result he does not throw his money away unnecessarily!! He understands the economics of figuring ALL your costs (transportation, hotel, meals, etc.) into the total cost of a session with a chica here; and HE realizes that if you pay excessive amounts and/or throw huge tips at them, you will end up (happens all to often) spending more that what a "piece of ass" would cost you at home!!!!!

Yes he is who he is, what he is, how he is--A honest, outspoken, opinionated, and intelligent MONGER who knows the true meaning of being a monger and also a kind and helpful person, even if he does rub some the wrong way! And those he does rub the wrong way are often those same ones who have NO concept of reality nor customs in COSTA RICA!!! and want to impose their way of life on a people that are perfectly happy just the way they are (recently rated the happiest people in the world compared to the USA being something like the 150th happiest!!!)

But then all these things that HE understands about MONGERING in Costa Rica (and most other places also) seem to be way above the understanding capabilities of some people!!!



Bang, I'm truly appreciative and a little humbled at the kind words - as well as being spot on other aspects of my personality <you know me pretty well :oops: :P :lol: )......thank you.

I value our friendship and appreciate all you have done to increase my understanding about Costa Rica :) :)


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I'm just a guy that comes to Costa Rica for vacation and pu*sy...that's all. I don't tell anyone else what to do or how to spend their money. :P


Don't confuse BB57's POV with being dumb - Yatz', while you may not totally agree with him, what he is saying is not stupid.

But lets talk about you :P :P :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look - I get it - no one likes to be called out - and everyone feels their point of view is correct - and the other guys, not so much :wink:

I think if you read some of your posts, one could draw the conclusion that while representing a constituency of one, you take umbrage at the mere thought that someone might be putting down a new guy. No idea if you have a prickly type of personality, but you come across that way sometimes.

Frankly, in a message board situation, you get all sorts of responses - some good, some bad, some funny, some pathetic.

I think if you are new, which you say you are, you might be better served to take in some of the advise vs being combative.

I'll share with you something else - most guys - maybe even Whitecat :lol: :lol: :) - have paid $100+ for a girl - see, your point is that I'm on vacation and no one has the right to tell me what to do - but in a sense - hey, you started posting - you are basically telling vet's that their POV is wrong - let me do what I want and you do what you want and don't put me down for wanting to have a good time - after all, its my money - do I pretty well have it down???

If you are consistently paying $100 - you don't have to - but its like waving a red flag in front of a bull to say if you do, Phuck anyone who wants to critizize me. Sorry, there are better ways to do Costa Rica - I also have found that attitude carries over to drinking - you know, "If I want to drink as much as possible and make a complete ass of myself, well, that's exactly what I plan to do" (I have no idea if this describes you - simply making a point the 2 attitudes often go together, but not a shot at you at all).

I think your attitude could have been a tad less combative, and a bit more open to learning - take in the info with a learning attitude and then feel free to discard what you wish - the problem with the internet is it is pretty stark as far as written communications go; it allows for no inflections.

I can tell you something for sure - if you post an opinion, someone is bound to have a different one - I do know what you are saying - and also know what others are saying, too. I just think you would be better served listening to what some vet's are saying and take in to account the tenure and experience. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:53 pm 
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It's amazing the "cien discussion" has been going on for many years. Here is a post from Feb 2006:

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"Welcome to the greatest group of guys in the world Markrli. You've chosen wisely in grabbing a membership right away. It will open more doors and save you more money than you can believe.

My advice to you is to immediately ignore all the ribbing you're going to get with your dollar vs colone question.

When the chicas speak of "cien" they mean $100 good old fashioned US Dollars. With a little over 500 colones to the US dollar right now, 100 colones would be about 20 cents. Now you could probably get laid for that in San Jose, but you would have to be into necrophilia as a hobby.
Others will tell you that would be a reasonable price in Morozan Park. The ladies in Morozan Park are not ladies at all, but have some additional equipment which rather spoils the whole night's entertainment.

Read, read, read everything you can on this board. Use the search engine to key in on specific questions, and then if you can't find an answer, post it here and at least 50% of the answers will be helpful.

CRT has an excellent reputation for being the best source of information anywhere and at least one or two guys here are going to be able to answer any question you have.

Back to the "cien" question. The current trend for the service workers in Costa Rica is to ask for cien or even more. We recommend that you negotiate for a better price. If you pay the asking price, the service is not going to be any better than if you paid $50, and negotiation is part of the pleasure of closing the deal.

Remember our motto here at camp: If she's a 10, she'll want at least cien; if she's a seven, you'll still be in heaven (and saved $30 too)

Good luck and welcome amigo "

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