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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:39 am 
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If you are not a tipper, fine I do not judge you but don't tell the rest of us what to do or not to do. The chicas will be the judge. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:57 pm 
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Dear Newbie:

1.) Get the CRT-V.I.P. membership; you'll then save $8.00 or so per hour visit to ZB.

2.) With all due respect to Grey Ghost, I think a discussion of tipping is worthwhile. As someone else wrote in this thread, at ZB I just hand the girl the 20K and wave off the change. This seems to set a very nice mood, but is in fact nearly a 12% tip up front. I also gave small gifts (sample perfumes and lotions, candy, cigarettes) as extra gratuity to my favoritas.

I think that over-tipping does raise the expectations of the girls, and frankly, some of us certainly can't afford the legendary Daniel-San$100.00 Tip. Overtipping has led to increased expectations, therefore reduced service all over the U.S. Look around.

I think a general rule of thumb is to give tips commensurate with the perceived quality of the session. If you're an old, fat, balding, half-drunk gringo who is getting laid for the first time in 40 years by a hot 20 year-old, it may be well worth an exhorbitant tip. As for me, I will offer between 10 and 20% of the total bill, and only for extraordinary service.

Speculation: I believe the ZB girls pay the house $18.00 per hour visit. I also believe that they eat the C.R.T. discount; this is based on discussions with a couple ZB girls. In other words, she makes $20.00 for a discounted hour, and $29.00 for an undiscounted session. But this is not Gospel and hasn't been verified; frankly, the girl's cut is none of my business and has little to do with how much or how little, I tip.

Bad reasons to tip:
1.) "She has such a hard life." Oh really!? Her sisters are slaving picking coffee beans at 1/5 her hourly rate. Yep, she has it tough.

2.) "We have so much and ticas have so little." Yes, true. And they often live as well (in terms of human happiness and things that matter) than we do. The standard of living in Costa Rica is lower and less expensive, so what we want to do is to artificially increase both the economy and standard of living. That way, when chica gets too old to sell panocha, she can starve more quickly?

3.) "It's my money and I'll phucking do what I want with it." Okay, so why not spend your money giving machine guns to epileptics? It is after all, your money...screw the consequences of your largesse.

4.) "It makes me feel good." Do you feel good when you overpay for something in the U.S.? "Yeah, the waitress kinda sucked, the food arrived cold, but damn! I feel great for leaving a 30% tip" Smart.

5.) "Tipping improves service." Prove it. I mean, prove it statistically for Costa Rican sex workers. Many of these women are clueless, addicted, mentally ill, exhausted by their work, cynical about gringos, name your disability... whether or not you tip large may or may not affect service level. Of course, everyone has anecdotes that demonstrate better service for bigger tips, and some of these anecdotes come from more experienced veterans than I...but I still say it's pretty nebulous to try and figure out if your big tips are doing any good.

And tipping a BM/HDR/KL girl? Well, if I haven't been able to negotiate her down to $80.00 or lower for 90 minutes, the tip is built in to her already exhorbitant price schedule. But I'm cheap... :lol:

Guys, just use common sense. The girls in my opinion are surprised when they receive a good tip, as it is not the norm to tip in C.R. except very small amounts in very specific cases, but G.G. is right...I've got no business telling anyone what to tip. And BTW, despite the preceding post, I do tip, and probably too generously. I also give to beggars...too nice a guy, I guess. :oops:

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El Ciego,

Good piece of writing showing a lot of logical reasoning. While tipping is a matter of personal preference you make many valid points.

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well gfje you got alot of veiws on this. I baged groceries at the Army commisary when I was young for tip's only. I will tell you officers are the worst tippers. And enlisted the best.

So you also want to know what I do. Well it depends on the service. It's that simple for me. I will say I go in expecting to tip. And It is up to them to lose. Then there is the factor of a big fat old gringo with a little dick who ain't got none [ in the states ] in along time. Who goes with a beautiful chica who makes he feel like a king and doesn't saying anything about seeing you as a freind, or I feel like your my father. Then well for that moment in fantasy land I have been known to give them what that moment is worth to me.


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Redman69,

My point exactly! One should tip on the perceived value of the service. My comment about fat, old gringos was not meant as an insult to anyone, except for perhaps myself! Yes, it's a beautiful, wonderous thing to be able to lie down with a woman 1/3 your age and live the fantasy of again being a young lion. Nothing wrong with that! :D
My point is simply this: Too many of us gringos visit Costa Rica with our own preconceived notions about tipping, most of which do not apply to Costa Rican life.

Restaurant checks already include a 10% service charge.
Tipping is not expected at MP's, and the customer/girl turnover rate makes tipping fairly inconsequential in terms of getting better service there. Note that I said I often give an advance 12% (over discounted price) tip at ZB; whether or not the advance gratuity prompted better service is anyone's guess.
Taxistaas do not expect tips, particularly large ones. Round up to the nearest 100 colones if you're compelled to tip a cab driver.

Many of us have the reputation in Costa Rica of being "prostitontos;" fools who pay too much for sex in the first place. I've talked with numerous ticos and ex-pat residents who claim to regularly pay 10,000 colones for a couple hours of sex with a fresh, young girl...and they seldom, if ever give tips. The girl at 5K/hour is already earning something like five times the normal hourly rate for semi-skilled labor in C.R.

I also wonder if larger tips from well-meaning gringos raise the girls' expectations and lower the quality of service for the non-tippers. Human nature being as it is, I suspect every girl who receives a large propina from Gringo A. will subsequently give Gringo B. worse service, if he hasn't ponied up the 20%-50% tip that many here profess to give their chicas. Bad idea, I think.

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El C,
My thinking is along those same lines. But I have to respectfully disagree with one of your statements. I believe tipping is expected (only from gringos) at MP's. The chicas have gotten so used to getting tips from gringos that they now expect them. I've even heard of some asking for the tip up front.

As far as paying too much for sex, that pretty obvious if you compare the tico places with the mostly gringo spots. But tourists get screwed everywhere (ever been to Times Square?), so that's expected. You have to find ways around it, places where there are bargains to be had. Some of the places RBC100 frequents seem to be much more cost-effective. And I'm sure there are some hotties to be found there, but since they are not as well-known as ZB and NF, they can't charge as much.


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