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Which of the following destinations is your favorite place to monger?
San Jose 73%  73%  [ 46 ]
Bogota 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Cartagena 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Medellin 21%  21%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:25 pm 
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I think you will find a larger number of great bodies/looks in Columbia. This is because more of the working girls in CR have K*ds and eat lots of junk food that gives them a belly. Still lots of good lookers around.
Cheaper rates in Columbia.
The chance of a GFE/PSE will be better in CR because more girls know a little english.
The likely hood of any kind of racial discrimination is going to be rare in both places unlike the prejudice against desis (south asians) in thailand.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:36 pm 
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You don't seem like a bad guy, 85, and you took the criticism in the spirit it was given; you certainly write well and sound like you have an education beyond the 6th grade :)

I believe you about drug usage, my comments stand re your friends (and I'll spare you the question, why would someone who does not do drugs want to associate w/ those who do - but its a question you might want to ask yourself)

Rant and moralization time over - Reread Oranges post; also his excellent stickey in this section regarding CR for Newbi's.

Trust me - at this point in time you want to go to Costa Rica; you don't have the experience to do Colombia just yet - CR is great; and everything you want (with the exception of a mile of coke for your friend :P) - SORRY, SORRY :lol: - is much easier in CR vs Colombia.

I think you will find Colombia "safe" in the sense that a few years ago one had to really think twice about visiting, what with kidnappings so prevalent - in CR, there is street crime, as in every urban area - if you are not loud, drunk, out late at night and alone it seems to be limited (also - if you avoid crime - like looking to purchase or outright purchasing illegal drugs - this also helps keep you safe and out of jail - just sayin' :roll: )

One of your friends is African American, and you are wondering about treatment - well, it should be fine - a lot of what we get is a reflection of what we put out - act like a jamoke, and don't be surprised at the return treatment - and that transcends race.

Some - SOME - girls will say they don't like black guys b/c of size (and I don't mean their waist size either :wink: :oops: :lol:) - but you know what - I think in the vast majority of cases that is plain BS - the girls are concerned about one color and its green ($$$) :roll: :P :lol: :)

I really would not worry about it - although I did hear San Jose appointed Bull Connor's grandson as sheriff :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, go and have a great trip - and don't worry about your black friend; he will be fine!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:50 pm 
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85broads wrote:
Scuba1 wrote:
Know its your 1st post and all - but also know there is a big prohibition about discussing illegal activities on the board - and drugs are at the top of the list :roll:


Isra wrote:
This is a MONGERING activities board and NO illegal activities are even mentioned.


Well, well, despite my intentions, I seemed to have stepped on a few toes anyway. I apologize. Thanks Scuba1 and Isra123 for the correction which I will observe from this point. FWIW, I have NEVER done coke in my life even though it's been offered to me umpteen times. You can choose to believe that statement or NOT, I don't care. Speaking for myself, I can get along just fine without any chemical alteration on my vacation.

Having said that, I hope that the discussion can move forward. After all, I'm only really interested in deciding whether to go to CR or Col. Please reconsider my initial post without any reference to drugs; where do you think my mates and I should go, and why?

As I've been reading over the board the last few days, I've been collecting more data points: Colombia seems to be more dangerous in terms of personal safety. Orange brought up the more prevalent acceptance of English and the relative proximity of mongering opportunities to each other in CR -- both good points. To be honest though, there are still some issues I still haven't answered to my satisfaction in my reading.

(i) Colombianas seem to be amazingly HOT. I mean DAMN, they're HOT. I don't know any personally, but if mongering pix are any valid indication, MDE might well be considered the Prague of Latin America in my albeit, cursory research. Of course, I've never been to either place, so I have no basis to judge whether paises are indeed better-looking than ticas, so I hope someone will fill in the blanks. Please feel free to offer any other qualitative distinctions between the two groups of women, including the possibilities for a GFE or PSE, and how hardened they are.

(ii) As I mentioned before, we will be a racially diverse group. Although attitudes towards caucasians have been well-documented, I have found no evidence of discrimination towards blacks, asians, or desis in my reading on either country, which is in itself a good thing. My optimism is tempered however, by the many instances of overt racism I have witnessed in my other mongering-related travels. Given the choice, I would hope to spare my associates any unpleasantness on what ought to be a fun trip.

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What about LIMA?


I'll look into Peru for a future trip but for right now, I don't wish to muddy the waters between my friends and myself in deciding where to go for THIS trip.

Thanks in advance again for any constructive input you may wish to contribute; it will be appreciated. Flames will be cheerfully ignored.

* Edited for style.


Fair enough. Orange makes a good point, CR is the best place for beginners, the learning curve in CO can be steep. As for bringing a black guy with you, it should not be a problem for him, as I have not heard much to indicate that they discriminate against blacks as long as his money is green or red. BTW, glad you aint a toot-head as they suck. 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:52 pm 
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Tell your friend that there are a lot of chicas here, lot's non-workers too, that love African Americans. He might not find that not only isn't he discriminated against, but he does the best out of the group.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:17 pm 
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I agree with what the majority are saying... start out in the gulch of San Jose. It's compact, easy to navigate and very user-friendly and full of gringos. You have no-miss venues like Sportmens, Del Rey, Key Largo, Hotel Little Havana and a host of other MPs from which to choose. Although the violence in Colombia is more under control than just a few years ago, the danger in Colombia is not always apparent. Since more gringos are visiting cities like Medellin... the perception among some of them is that things are totally safe. Nothing could be further from the truth. You need to learn the city, and stay below the radar in order to ensure your safety. Enough has been posted about safety in Colombia, so I won't beat a dead horse. Also, the mongering venues in large Colombian cities are spread out and one must do research ahead of time. There are no gringo gulches or Del Rey- type venues in cities like Bogota, Cali or Medellin. Although San Jose is not necessarily my favorite place, I would recommend that you and your buddies go there for mongering.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:19 pm 
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Thirdworld wrote:
Good updated intel. Too bad to hear that...

My 2 centavos, try CR first, if you become jaded, go souther. I have talked to a few expats in San Jose who are a bit jaded (read: possibly spoiled, in my view) and are thinking of going to MDE.
Also, have your friends rent the movie "Midnight Express" one more time. If they can't have a good time on booze and unlimited sex, then there is just no pleasing them, in the words of Goldmember.

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money talks with alot of them re color or race, but alot of them won't--or say they won't, going to be hit or miss. i've seen black guys taking ticas out the door often. shouldn't be a big problem, there's more than enough who will. remember the east coast of cr, particularly limon, is heavily black so it ain't like you are going to finland, and the chinese have been there for centuries, albeit only a listed 1 per cent on cia work sheet. there are plans for a chinatown near the dr, supposedly in progress. look at the gambling tables and if that's any indicator, there's more than 1 per cent. also, there's alot of dominicans of color and a few from colombia--janet from medellin is a reg past 9 pm at the dr, gorgeous and fine skinny body with a great butt and nice tits. you'll all have fun. i doubt anyone of you will get insulted, it ain't going to be like that, maybe just a no thanks, but we all get that once in a while for who knows what reason.


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Scuba1 wrote:
I believe you about drug usage, my comments stand re your friends (and I'll spare you the question, why would someone who does not do drugs want to associate w/ those who do - but its a question you might want to ask yourself)


I don't mind answering the question -- there are extenuating circumstances (aren't there always?). In this case, we used to work together. He was more senior. Later in my career, he helped me find a job. As for shunning drug users in general, I tend to eschew moral absolutism. In my experience, viewing life in terms of black and white usually makes you look like a hypocritical a$$hat in front of your friends and family at some point in your life. That's just my 2 céntimos.

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I really would not worry about it - although I did hear San Jose appointed Bull Connor's grandson as sheriff :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ok, I'll bite. I'm pretty sure ur kidding, but that seems like one of those things that is so bizarre and random it might be true. Is it?

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BTW, glad you aint a toot-head as they suck.


Well, I'm glad ur glad. Maybe we can share a few beers during happy hour at HLH someday.

bluedevil wrote:
Since more gringos are visiting cities like Medellin... the perception among some of them is that things are totally safe. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Thanks for the valuable perpective. While I've heard that kidnappings are down, I'm equally concerned about the possibility of confrontation with the native populace. Last thing we need is to get into a bar fight with resentful locals and someone pulls a knife or a gun. On that point, who are more confrontational? Columbianos or Ticos? I would imagine the former.

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i doubt anyone of you will get insulted, it ain't going to be like that, maybe just a no thanks, but we all get that once in a while for who knows what reason.


So true. In which case, it's better not to dwell on the rejection. NEXT!


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Since more gringos are visiting cities like Medellin... the perception among some of them is that things are totally safe. Nothing could be further from the truth.



Thanks for the valuable perpective. While I've heard that kidnappings are down, I'm equally concerned about the possibility of confrontation with the native populace. Last thing we need is to get into a bar fight with resentful locals and someone pulls a knife or a gun. On that point, who are more confrontational? Columbianos or Ticos? I would imagine the former.


Ticos are basically non-confrontational, and usually try to avoid a fight. IMO, ticos are nice, friendly people. But if you do run into tico miscreants, with every intention of doing you harm, they will do so only if the odds are in their favor. Colombianos are happy, friendly and outgoing people, but, IMO, have more on the ball than the average tico. In Colombia, the miscreants are better organized and more imaginative compared to their tico counterparts. Don't look for the frontal assault (like in CR). It will be well-disguised and thought out... and when you least expect it.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:28 pm 
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I am familiar with Costa Rica. When I first came here in 2006, Colombia was closer to the reputation of the past.

If I was starting fresh now, I would most likely be living in Medellin instead of Costa Rica.

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85broads wrote:
Scuba1 wrote:
I believe you about drug usage, my comments stand re your friends (and I'll spare you the question, why would someone who does not do drugs want to associate w/ those who do - but its a question you might want to ask yourself)


I don't mind answering the question -- there are extenuating circumstances (aren't there always?). In this case, we used to work together. He was more senior. Later in my career, he helped me find a job. As for shunning drug users in general, I tend to eschew moral absolutism. In my experience, viewing life in terms of black and white usually makes you look like a hypocritical a$$hat in front of your friends and family at some point in your life. That's just my 2 céntimos.
On some things, its OK to take an absolute stand - Ch*ld abuse, bigotry, criminal activity, drunk driving, drug use, to name just a few - I believe that drug usage has fueled many of our societal ills and I hate it - that said, I also believe that you have the right to feel the way you want, although feeling the opposite about drug usage hardly makes one an asshat - rather than go back and forth on this since you are never gonna change my mind, lets agree to disagree and move on :)


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I really would not worry about it - although I did hear San Jose appointed Bull Connor's grandson as sheriff :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ok, I'll bite. I'm pretty sure ur kidding, but that seems like one of those things that is so bizarre and random it might be true. Is it? Nah - just joshing with you :lol:

timbones wrote:
BTW, glad you aint a toot-head as they suck.


Well, I'm glad ur glad. Maybe we can share a few beers during happy hour at HLH someday.

bluedevil wrote:
Since more gringos are visiting cities like Medellin... the perception among some of them is that things are totally safe. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Thanks for the valuable perpective. While I've heard that kidnappings are down, I'm equally concerned about the possibility of confrontation with the native populace. Last thing we need is to get into a bar fight with resentful locals and someone pulls a knife or a gun. On that point, who are more confrontational? Columbianos or Ticos? I would imagine the former.
Ticos as a rule are laid back and in some ways go against the latin sterotype - they normally will not seek out confrontation - interestingly, you are not all that likely to meet many if you stay in Gringo areas, or drink in gringo bars, or visit gringo venues (they have their own - why would they pay almost 3x the price to drink in a gringo establishment - overall really nice folks - some Americans however, go out of their way to be stupid and/or obnoxius - like refering to "ticas" as the generic word for prostitute (it simply means female Costa Rican) and in a Tico bar, fights have happened - but you really have little to worry about b/c frankly you don't come across as stupid - just don't be drunk, loud, alone late at night on the streets and you should be fine

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i doubt anyone of you will get insulted, it ain't going to be like that, maybe just a no thanks, but we all get that once in a while for who knows what reason.


So true. In which case, it's better not to dwell on the rejection. NEXT!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:16 am 
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You forgot Thailand.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:04 am 
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Medellin is the place to be. But you really need to speak spanish. The prices are much cheaper and the girls are much much hotter.

San Jose is ok. You will have fun. As far as the stuff we are not allowed to talk about it is there. The biggest problem is if you do get caught you will be waiting in a really shitty jail for a longtime before you even get to see a judge. Not a good idea. If your friends do get into that tell them to keep it away from your room.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:18 am 
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Someone mentioned Lima. I've been to CR and Lima, and certainly wouldn't recommend Lima for the females. They have some VERY good spas there where you'll be treated like a king, but for full service it's expensive, not as prevalent, and lets be honest the Peruvians are not winning Miss Universe very often.

Lima as a city is basically the "Seattle of the South". Very cool/crisp weather, almost always overcast/rainy, but filled with culture, arts, and great food. It's a city I'd bring my parents not my mongering buddies.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:08 pm 
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This seems to be a group of veteran mongers. Whether true or not, find some expert guide like Brother Pops via Google or some other source, and then go to Medellin. The main reason for a guide is not only the obvious (finding safe venues and making it work) but also as a guide for downtime activities. If y'all come to SJO, then hire the original--it's not a cost, it's an investment, and he's a great-story-telling very savvy wingman. To be blunt, he's Da Bomb. You'll thank me for this.
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