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 Post subject: Mongering vs Girlfriend
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:13 am 
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Of course YMMV, but I was pondering recently the cash I have spent mongering as to compared to the cost of a serious girlfriend. In the last couple of years with all expenses considered I have spent $11,000 in three differnt countrys in three trips. Mind you, these where in countrys like Holland, Ukraine and Russia. These women, some where of Anna Kornikova quality. Most where GFE and where very naughty girls with few boundries.

As compared to a GF I had prior to the hobby, in roughly the same amount of time I spent close to $16,000. Now this includes trips, gifts, dinning etc...

How about you guys?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:44 am 
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I think that you are missing some of the more important benefits to mongering that are more obvious than cash.

How about not dealing with any grief and stupid situations from a girlfriend?

The satisfaction to just simply saying ‘NEXT” and that will be that.

A different girl every day or a dupla, no questions ask.

No attachments. Sex, just because I got a woody. No questions asked.

The rest of the perverted herd can fill you into the many extras. I’m just touching the tip of the iceberg.

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I don't have a girlfriend for many reasons. While in the states I stick with 4 or 5 FWB's (friends with benefits) that way you get the best of both worlds. Carefree great sex that's free :wink: . Of course I will have drinks with them or otherwise spend some money but to me that hardly counts because I would spend the same money on anyone, not just a hot chick.

I'm really a half ass monger when compared to most so the P in P4P is something I'm not %100 used to and really isn't an issue in CR really.

All in all I think I make out more with the FWB's, but I have a great time in CR. If I went to CR just for the girls, I wouldn't go down nearly as often. Although my last 3 trips or so the chicas have been very generous with thier prices. :D

I think there's a higher cost to having a girlfriend that extends beyond money, but to each his own.

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Really, it's not comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Having a regular girlfriend as opposed to mongering are two different scenarios. Personally, I have done the "girlfriend thing," as well as the "marriage thing".......been there-done that, in my younger days. Time to move on. Where and how, could a 55 year old man in the U.S., bed a 25 year old knock-out? Pretty much impossible in the U.S. without it costing a fortune.....one way or the other. :?


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Have been separated almost a year and have done 2 mongering trips, pretty sure my former wife will never speak to me again. Also pretty sure I'll be damned if I'm listening to grief/drama from a GF ever again.

Right now, I want what i wasn't getting in my marriage. A buddy at my work said he read that on average men have 11 partners in their life and he wants to know who took the other 10 he supposed to have, or his brothers, or his friends....etc.

I sat down and conservatively I've scored with 50 and can still name most of them. But I realized that 16 of them were since September and that's without counting anyone twice and I've been Laura'd 3 times and both Mansions girls I spent time with in Colombia I tapped 3 times each.

So basically the benefits are variety, more control over what situations you'll participate in, and the only down side if you practice safe mongering is the cost.

Early on in the hobby you learn to be selective in what you see, and if you're smart you'll never fall in love with a working girl. I say this knowing damn well I have a few girls that are my personal kryptonite and will always weaken me on sight.

Down side is the cash, and if you get carried away, you'll be well, um "carried away"

Wrap your willy, keep a grip on your emotions, budget properly and a life of mongering may be your ticket. If you have no self control or the ability to listen to a novia go on and on about stuff you don't care about and you want a surer thing without paying for it (directly) then by all means.

If I met a goddess tomorrow who wated me exclusively, I'd sure consider it. But I love these trips, hence the reason trip #3 is booked for February


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Have been separated almost a year and have done 2 mongering trips, pretty sure my former wife will never speak to me again. Also pretty sure I'll be damned if I'm listening to grief/drama from a GF ever again.

If I met a goddess tomorrow who wated me exclusively, I'd sure consider it. But I love these trips, hence the reason trip #3 is booked for February


KM,

I do not know if this was your first and only marriage or how long it lasted but you need to be very careful for the first couple of years following a divorce. You are probably alot more vulnerable than you think you are.

Unfortunatly North American women these days have a great ability for demasculinizing their men and part of the post divorce recovery is usually working hard to "grow your balls back".

I speak from experience bro. Twice married and two divorces and I was a US Army Ranger Infantry CPT and a pretty damn masculine guy but still the women here have really strong skills as far as denutting us.

One of the best things about my travel in C & S America and spending time with Latinas both pro & amateurs is that I have learned how to call the shots and be in control again. Not that I am not a gentleman ( Hey I was born and raised in the deep south and chivalry is a point of honor for us) , I just refuse to put up with bullshit and generally now women respect that once they know it does not work with me.

Continued good luck in your travels and best of luck with the recovery process.
8) 8) 8)

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Rainman3 wrote:
KM,

Unfortunatly North American women these days have a great ability for demasculinizing their men and part of the post divorce recovery is usually working hard to "grow your balls back".



Couldn't have said it better myself, yes this was my first marriage, and this might sound strange until you try it, but when I came back from my first CR monger trip in Sept, everything was better at home. I liked my job more, I got along with my family better, I lost weight, had great enthusiasm for everything.

Tried to explain to my mother that I'm unlikely to ever date locally again and she said basically what you said and that's don't be too hard on yourself, you had a controlling manipulative wife and not all women are like that. When you meet one that wants to be your equal as opposed to being in control, you'll feel different.

And there's no question that one day (not soon) I'll put mongering on hold and buy a new car, or travel somewhere else, whatever.

I can't stress this enough to those first beginning hobbying and that's don't lose who you are. I did some stuff in Colombia that may have seemed strange at the time, but it was just my nature. I bought pizza for 17, because I wanted to. I took a girl to Mangos because no one else picked her, because I wanted to (She's now Aussie Greg's novia if you read ISG). And I maintained contacts with those that treated me well because I felt good about it. I didn't get taken to the cleaners and I enjoyed every moment of my stay, so my point is, the hobby gives you many other freedoms in addition to the obvious sexual one.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:29 am 
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Klockman wrote:
I can't stress this enough to those first beginning hobbying and that's don't lose who you are. I did some stuff in Colombia that may have seemed strange at the time, but it was just my nature. I bought pizza for 17, because I wanted to. I took a girl to Mangos because no one else picked her, because I wanted to (She's now Aussie Greg's novia if you read ISG). And I maintained contacts with those that treated me well because I felt good about it. I didn't get taken to the cleaners and I enjoyed every moment of my stay, so my point is, the hobby gives you many other freedoms in addition to the obvious sexual one.
Good for you Klock. As long as you have decent BS sensors and CYA you can do those kinds of things and come out ok.


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I was last in C.R. last February. Just got married!!! But since my new wife and I are into swinging for 4 years now, she has no problem with me visiting C.R. so I will be returning in March, 2009. Of course, she also has the freedom to do the same. Only conditions are we don't cheat on each other!! Life is good!!! :D


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Peter with all the $$ you spent-pay for a VIP membership here.As fot the mongering vs girlfriend-Do whatever you want its your $$.


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Ours (I'm 60) was the first generation of males that were raised by their mothers. Up until industrialization, and even until the fifty's you worked with your father. If he was a farmer, you worked the fields. If he was a blacksmith, you worked the anvil. You learned what it meant to be a man by working with, and viewing your father.

Industrialization takes place, and the father is gone from the family for most of the waking hours, now without his son. He comes home and is tired, and wants rest. The mothers were left to raise both the sons & daughters. While I love my mother greatly, she could no more teach me about being a man, than I could teach my daughters what it means to be a woman. Masculinity was feminized by well meaning mothers, and the change of working patterns in society.

Today's society has taken it a step farther. Look at commercials now. Look who is in power, the women. Men are made to look like fools that either can't make decisions, or won't, and defer to the smarter, and more powerful women.

As Rainman3 says, it is not about not being a gentleman. It is very possible to do both. Women respect men more who are in charge. I have been fortunate to belong to an organization where I have seen hundreds of men reclaim their manhood, and as of yet I have not seen one wife, lover, that didn't have more respect, and admiration for their man afterward.

As one of my favorite musicians Rod Piazza says, "Be tough & tender, that's the way to a young girls heart."

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FWBs have been working great for me too over the past couple of months. My improved Spanish even helped me add a local Dominicana to the list recently. It's a good thing too because I've been so busy with work that any trips have been on hold for a couple of months. The next couple of months don't look so good either.

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I don't have a girlfriend for many reasons. While in the states I stick with 4 or 5 FWB's (friends with benefits) that way you get the best of both worlds. Carefree great sex that's free :wink: . Of course I will have drinks with them or otherwise spend some money but to me that hardly counts because I would spend the same money on anyone, not just a hot chick.

I'm really a half ass monger when compared to most so the P in P4P is something I'm not %100 used to and really isn't an issue in CR really.

All in all I think I make out more with the FWB's, but I have a great time in CR. If I went to CR just for the girls, I wouldn't go down nearly as often. Although my last 3 trips or so the chicas have been very generous with thier prices. :D

I think there's a higher cost to having a girlfriend that extends beyond money, but to each his own.

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I think the true advantage to having a true serious girlfriend is being able to take that annoying condom off. Other than going raw, there's nothing special about committing to one of these bimbo gringas...unless of course they're filthy rich, that is fun sometimes (you get pu*sy and gifts).

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J0sie wrote:
I think that you are missing some of the more important benefits to mongering that are more obvious than cash.




The subject of cash is only a small portion of the picture in reguards to mongering vs. girlfriend. I prefer mongering at this point in my life and make no bones for my preference. I was attempting to get all your thoughts about this topic as I have thought about the pro's and con's


On the subject of AW de-nutting us men, I have a different slant on this. I don't belive most AW think this way. Yes, there are women who dominate their male partners and not all the blame is the AW. For some of these men, the nuts may have not fallen by the time they meet these beasts, hence; the cattle rancher when needed always cuts the nuts off the young bulls.

I have my life just where I want it and mongering complets it 8)

Getting the VIP this saturday at the SL, couldn't figure out how to purchase online.

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Santa, your post was very insightful.

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