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Sound? how can that be? I'm typing on a keyboard! AMD is ONLY good to match the ATi video cards and that's only been since AMD purchased the ATi outfit. That's it. *shrug*

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- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Steven1--Love you like the Brother you are but I believe I'll go with Brother Jmac on this one.
And if a guitarist can have a "voice", a writer can have a "sound". Thus I have spoken, er, "spoken". I am however with you on ATI products--Ge-Force and Nvidia are the market-makers with ATI being a dismal and unheard 3rd. How the mighty have fallen!

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"Amen, brother"-ED

You and Jmacaula are just fighting City Hall simply for the sake of fighting City Hall. There's no real reason to be fighting City Hall on this one, but, somehow, it's viewed as a "noble endeavor". I'm stating you're wasting your time and making yourselves look foolish, bluntly. While AMD has picked up an iota of market share relative to entry level machines this past year, AMD has LOST sizeable market share in the server market for the same time frame.

Don't hate just to hate. AMD, SUN, Mac....they're all cut from the same cloth and are NOVELTY items. And I rather suspect the execs at AMD, SUN, Mac, etc. are paid every bit as well as the boys at INTEL and Microsoft. That group of swarmy fellows are also all cut from the same cloth. Him that has, gets.

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- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

I use an HP Pavilion DV9000 series top-of-the-line Entertainment Center, with an AMD Turion64 x2 processor. Doesn't get any better than that at least not as of a year ago. As far as I'm concerned--case closed, game over. And as far as the server market is concerned--Why should I give a rat's about it and have you heard of a smallish concern called IBM?

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"Amen, brother"-ED

This whole Intel/AMD debates reminds me of the Ford/Chevy debates we had as teenagers.

Bottom line is Ford folks stayed Ford folks and Chevy connoisseurs stayed Chevy connoisseurs. Suspect we will see the same result with this debate.

Difference for me is that as a teenager I only owned one car at a time but on this subject my PC is Intel my laptop is AMD. Like a Ford or Chevrolet they both get me where I want to go.

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Doesn't seem worth it to me.

That is some FUNNY stuff, jb!!! That machine doesn't even have it's own video card! NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 shared video memory (UMA) is what you got. Shared video card is "top-of-the-line". Indeed! Ummm....ya can't access this web site without a server or 30 humping weight for ya....


....and ID: don't be slipping in that word "connoisseur" there like that.....a question posed: "Is monsieur a Connoisseur or just short changed? Off the rack or custom-fit it all seems the same Look but don't touch in paradise Don't let them catch you damaging the merchandise......"?

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- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Keeps me occupied and off the streets....that's a good thing for all concerned....

Most of the time, it's hotel staff and UCR students on the purchase side....

I also bring COSTCO blue jeans for hotel staff with no mark up. I'm such a nice guy....

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- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

I can see that if you are a regular visitor to CR and have a business flair you can make a couple of hundreds that go towards expenses. I do not think you can make enough to cover the cost of your trip and make a decent profit.
Regarding AMD and Intel I think AMD has gone a long way to keeping Intel honest and their products have helped to keep intels prices in check. Nothing like competition to keep the corporations in check. Same with SUN and big brother IBM.

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To get this Thread back on track, do remote-control vibrators count as "electronics"? Then hell yes bring in a boatload--and walk thorough the Blue Marlin with a signboard advertising--you'll be mobbed and get some rather interesting offers as well.
Brother Steven1--GeForce makes the best vid cards for the most demanding applications--3D gaming. Why should HP try to reinvent the wheel when much better is available? Puh-lease, Brother. My source for this is MaximumPC and GameInformer magazines. You have your areas of expertise and I trust you implicitly in them--but give me this one in a GP laptop.

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Here is where you demonstrate your ignorance: The issue is not in the manufacturer of the video card...it's the fact that it does NOT have dedicated memory (saves space and costs); rather, it saps memory from the SHARED RAM of the overall machine. The sharing slows the machine down and impacts on overall performance; particularly when you're trying to get the computer to actually compute and not do silly things like "surf" the web. (And, these days, following AMD's purchase of ATi cards, you actually WANT an ATi card when using an AMD processor as ONLY the AMD can maximize the potential of the ATi card).

(Definition of: shared video memory

(Using part of main memory for the display system's frame buffers, which temporarily hold the rendered content being sent to the screen. Shared memory is typically used in PCs with "integrated graphics," which means the display circuits are on the motherboard rather than housed in a separate, more costly display adapter card.

(Sharing main memory with the display function reduces the amount of memory available to applications, and main memory is not as fast as the specialized video memory on stand-alone cards (see video RAM). See integrated graphics and display adapter.)


All those silly reviews and news articles from magazines and newspapers you post are from bought and paid for advertisers who moonlight as "neutral" reviewers. They are about as useful as a consumer reports article. One can self inform one's self about these machines with a bit of study. "Reviews" don't cut it.

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- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

he demonstrated his ignorance a long time ago

Shared memory is no big deal on most modern processors--look at how many CPU cycles go utterly to waste. Dedicated Vid memory only becomes an issue if you are using all those cycles intensively (astrophysics telemetry, Wall Street using super-fast algorithms for "fast trades", decoding in "The Human Genome" project, on-line gaming and the like. For 99% of users 99% of the time , it's a non-issue. The users mentioned would have custom not off the shelf machines anyway.
As for the newspapers I quote from (MaximumPC, PC World, the WSJ and the NYTimes), none are "silly" and while as in all media they depend on advertising, you haven't a shred of proof that the editorial departments are in thrall to the ad departments. I have seen all 4 shred products by their major advertisers
BTW while we're on the subject, what sources are you quoting--or conjuring 1/2 truths from? Popular pubs or Websites only please--this is a relatively unsophisticated audience, after all.

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"Amen, brother"-ED

It's easy for you guys to talk all this RAM, shared memory, cycle stuff. I'm still trying to figure out how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw

Another sleepless night wondering, gotta be more than three. That owl is such a prick!

Dean

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" most of the girls down here, lie as a self defense mechanism and to not have to face the truth, thinking most men couldn't accept them knowing the whole truth. Simpler, they may just want men to think they are as perfect as they want to appear to them, trying to hide what they consider to be the ugly truth about themselves. And I may be reading more into it than is there, but I do believe they consider the basis of the lies to be justified."

who you calling unsophisticated Jazzbo I always tuck a CLOTH napkin in my shirt when i eat