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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:31 pm 
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A day and night at the Delrey, narrated by Hung-Lo.

First, I would like to give credit to some of the veteran posters from whom I learned so much:

Dallasman, TheLurker, King Costa, G-man, VegasBob, Dino, sorry if I missed anybody.

I've been to CR many times. I’ve tried the massage parlors (from the tico ones to zb and nf) but I always had sub-par average sessions at the MP’s. Strip clubs are not my cup of tea.

My preference is the pickup bar/nightclub environment. That is where I feel most comfortable.

I enjoy lounging in the delrey for hours, observing the new faces, and noticing all the old familiar faces as well. My sitting in the delrey for hours pays off because I know which gals aren't worth a shit, and the gals that aren't worth a shit know that I know they ain't worth a shit, so they avoid me and I avoid them.

During the course of my newbie trips, I made lots of chica selection mistakes. But, afterwards when I returned to the states I would write up a detailed trip log and analyze what went wrong.
I also learned and discovered that I could actually correct upon my mistakes and be more successful in my chica selection. I have worked on my Spanish which is very helpful.

This is not meant as a brag, but, I usually have at least good sessions from the delrey. It does require work and discipline on my end to make a proper selection. Every now and then I will have an average or subpar session, but I have realized that just comes with the territory of hobbying.

During the peak hours, I love the fact that there are just so many available women under two roofs (BM and KL).

Making a good selection takes lots of patience and some mental discipline.

First one should narrow down the herd to a manageable number as the dallasman would write. Then start circling the prey and make the final approach to say hello and start a conversation in Spanish. If the initial contact is promising, then I pull them aside to a table and chit chat and sprinkle in some interview questions. See some of King Costa’s interview questions.

How do I know which chicas to approach ? If you have been closely observing the chicas movements and behaviors, you can tell which chicas are hardcore veterans and which ones are relatively inexperienced and fresh.

Be aware that while you may have narrowed down the herd, some of the herd may leave the premises with a gringo, chicas gets occupied talking with another gringo, some of the chicas may go home before you get a chance to speak with them for whatever reason (they worked all day and didn't get any work and they called it quits, they left with their chica friends to go eat, etc.)

This is part of the game, you must cut your losses and concentrate on the chicas that are still remaining in the BM/KL.

As far as chica nationality, I really don't care what country the chica is from because I've had good ones from every country and I've had bad ones. Personally, I have an affinity for the homegrown Ticas.

Back to the interview in detail:

While I may have mentioned that I sprinkle in some interview questions, I don’t make a selection based solely on the chicas answers to my questions. I know that the chica network has conjured up perfect answers to most of our probing questions. Chicas tell us what we want to hear.

So, What is it that I look for during the initial moments of the interview ?

Is she warming up to me ? I know that she is working for the money, but, she should at least put on a good act and fake it like I can't tell she’s faking it and make me feel like a stud.

Am I getting a hard on ? (Guys, this is not meant as a joke, seriously, sometimes after I talk to a chica for a couple of minutes there is lack of chemistry or something just didn't click)

When I notice things aren't clicking, it is time to say goodbye on move onto the next chica.

Ok, suppose things are going well, you are talking and joking around, enjoying a drink or dancing with her at the KL, great, perhaps you have found a potential good lay. At this point, there are still things that you should discuss with her. Sure, you could assume things are going to go well and wing it from here , but by discussing a couple of topics can save heartache and disappointment later in the evening.

Items for discussion:

Settling on time of session (1 hour, 2 hours, TLN, several days, all week,etc.)

Discuss the details of how you like to be made love to in bed, this includes how you like you BJ, does she like DATY? Is she open to DFK ? Which parts of your body do you want massaged or kissed ? Discuss showering before the session. I always make the chica shower beforehand since I like to kiss and suck her body, she needs to be clean and I shower too.

Settle on a price before you decide to invite her to your room. This topic is subjective. But I usually pay between 50-80 for short time. Since I'm a low volume guy, paying that higher price doesn't break my daily budget. The idea of paying cien is not a deal breaker for me. I have paid cien on three occasions. I got my monies worth as I got extended hours and multiple pops.

I observe to see if the chica is comfortable with the terms, and I usually observe if she agrees to the terms without hesitation or reluctance. If I sense she is unhappy or uncomfortable with the terms then, it is best to move on to the next chica.

If she happily agreed to the terms, at this point, I will invite the gal back to the room.

You might run into the issue where the chica demands money upfront. In my newbie days, I would have thrown a chica out based solely on principle. But as I have gained experience and as I have gained a sixth sense with these working gals, the request of payment upfront is not a deal breaker to me anymore.

I will pull out the money and count it, and place it in the desk or on the bathroom counter, and say to her “you can take it when we are done.” Of course, you should never hand the money to her before services are rendered. I've never had a problem and have had some great sessions with gals that demanded money upfront. Some of these chicas have been ripped off by guys that ended up shafting them on payment.

At this point, the session can still take a turn for the worse, she might performs at a sub par level and you just go limp during the session. The chica changes the terms of the contract and gets belligerent in the room. There is no sense in wasting you energy or leche at this point, just cut the session short and give them a pro-rated amount of money.

I have learned, just because things didn't click in the bedroom, I decide to stay on friendly terms with all the chicas. Remember that keeping good karma is critical in our hobby. I always smile and say hello to all the gals i've sessioned with. Sure, some of the sessions where pathetic, and some of the chicas shafted me when I was a newbie, but that was partly my fault due to my inexperience. Making some mistakes when you are a newbie comes with the territory.

Maintaining good karma has rewarded me by staying on friendly terms with all the chicas.
Why do I say this ? Because all the chicas talk and if they know you are a gentlemen and that you are a level headed, happy and friendly person, that pays dividends in the future. If you get all pissed off and hold grudges and act all emotional and weird around the chicas that just creates some negative karma, and negative karma is not a good thing to have in this arena.

Regarding repeat sessions and avoiding getting emotionally involved with a working gal.

I do believe in repeating under certain conditions. I make the decision to repeat, and not her. I will continue repeating so long as the level of service and satisfaction remain at a high level. When the service level slacks off, then I will retire her and move on, but will always remain friends with her. I will repeat, but will also see new women. I grab my nuts and make this a point upfront with chicas. There is just too much temptation, why spend ALL your time with one woman ?

Somewhere back in early 2005, I started to get emotionally attached to a working gal. But it was short lived as I publicly consulted the veterans of this board in the very beginning of my emotional attachment. The vets advice paid off. I learned my lesson early on to not get too emotionally involved with these working gals. Its funny, recently, I've had great repeat sessions with several women and to this day, I do not remember their names. Talk about not letting the chicas get into my head.

Looking back in hindsight, there was no reason to get emotionally involved with a chica that screwed my brains for cash. What I'm trying to say is that over time, there will always be new fresh faces in the Delrey. There is high turnover rate there. There will always be new chicas that will provide you with the gfe. Try not to get too hung up on a chica because there will be replacements.

I hope that some of my viewpoints will help the newbies. This narrative is not set in stone. One must edit and adjust according to their personal preferences. This is my way of giving back to the site that has helped me experience the greatest joys of my life. This was very therapeutic for me to write this as these thoughts had been mulling in my head for the past couple of months and my non-monger friends would not understand me if I shared these thoughts with them.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:49 pm 
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Really nice post Hung-Lo. I enjoy this educational material. It's nice to hear one person's subtle ideas. It helps me a lot.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:04 pm 
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Nice post Hung-Lo. Good info and well written. Thanks for the re-fresher course.

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Great post!

I will read it again before every trip…

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HL,
Excellent advice. Really well written also.

There's one thing that stood out for me because I believed the same thing...

Hung-Lo wrote:
How do I know which chicas to approach ? If you have been closely observing the chicas movements and behaviors, you can tell which chicas are hardcore veterans and which ones are relatively inexperienced and fresh....


In October, I was observing a hot blonde chica (pic id# 3148) in BM all night. I saw the way she worked the room and how she was with the guys. I was sure she was a hardened pro, but towards the end of the night, I couldn't resist. Honestly, when I talked to her, I was only testing the waters sort of speak because I figured that I would get the pro attitude and price. Lo (no pun intended :lol: ) and behold, she was one of the sweetest chicas I have been with in CR. From the time we got in the cab, she was a tiger, very affectionate, totally not hardened. And her starting asking price was 70 or 80, not cien surprisingly.

Basically what I'm trying to say is don't judge a book by its cover. (Also, keep in mind the fresh ones can suck, I had a newbie from BB in Jaco, and she was pretty bad, didn't know what to do and it was really awkward, more so than usual in my sessions. :oops: )


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Thanks H-L for a very good post. I will need to apply your techniques in 2 weeks. I haven't interviewed for several months and I hope I don't make any mistakes. What am I thinking...........I'll just ask if they have been with VB more than once. If they haven't repeated with VB......I don't want them.

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Well said Hung Lo,

I know I am a newbie here in CRT but I am not a newbie to the hobby, being heavy into it in CA. Further, my upcoming trip to CR beginning this Firday (Nov 25) will be my 7th wonderful adventure.

I was fortunate in that my first trip (1998) was a guided tour from a fellow who had lived in SJ many years before the creation of this distinguished group.

There were a couple of things I learned on that first trip that have always stuck with me:

1. Learn where you can walk alone.
2. Do not go into the forbidden zone.
3. Do not get attached.
4. Leave everything in CR.
5. Its all about the $$$ for the chicas, whether it be for an hour or a lifetime.
6.. Remember the golden rule: we do not pay them for sex, we pay them to GO AWAY after.

This may seem a little harsh......but hey, it works.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:36 am 
Thanks hung-lo, your post was refreshing. I like the post that are personal.

I'm the same way, low volume and selection slowly and I make them invest time in me before offering up the room. I have an interview style, but sometimes just as I'm entering the room, I think, darn I didn't ask this or that. Because I select slowly, I'm usually not disappointed.

Orange - the blonde does have a bit of a hardcore appearance so I was surprised at what you wrote in the comments section. You are right - can't judge a book by the cover.


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Goal, I am not in CR.

Orange, there are some veteran hardcore ladies in the delrey that provide very good service. Basically there are two ways to find them:

1) Ask another CRT member for intelligence on a particular chica.
Start a conversation with the chica and feel her out and screen her.

2) Suppose there are no CRT guys around. Take one for the team, approach the chica on your own and feel her out with some conversation. Apply a screening test on her.

Remember always that YMMV.


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Excellent post! You put into words a process that is a lot of feeling and as you put it sixth sense


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Hung,
Great post. It's obvious that a lot of thought went into your writing. Some great insight. Definitely a must-read, especially for newbies.
Well done...!

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Hung Lo, great post. I liked the way you layed it out. I allso feel a need to share stuff on the board, get it off my chest. Great advice and good ending. Happy hunting


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Jmacula's response:

Hung-Lo wrote:
A day and night at the Delrey, narrated by Hung-Lo.

First, I would like to give credit to some of the veteran posters from whom I learned so much:

Dallasman, TheLurker, King Costa, G-man, VegasBob, Dino, sorry if I missed anybody.

Move over, there is a new sheriff in town! I can teach old dogs new tricks!

I've been to CR many times. I’ve tried the massage parlors (from the tico ones to zb and nf) but I always had sub-par average sessions at the MP’s. Strip clubs are not my cup of tea.

Never had an average session, so I wouldn't even know what a sub par is? Damn, you guys finally stumped me!

My preference is the pickup bar/nightclub environment. That is where I feel most comfortable.

I enjoy lounging in the delrey for hours, observing the new faces, and noticing all the old familiar faces as well. My sitting in the delrey for hours pays off because I know which gals aren't worth a shit, and the gals that aren't worth a shit know that I know they ain't worth a shit, so they avoid me and I avoid them.

and they gals probably know you ain't worth a shit! Buck up bro!

During the course of my newbie trips, I made lots of chica selection mistakes. But, afterwards when I returned to the states I would write up a detailed trip log and analyze what went wrong.
I also learned and discovered that I could actually correct upon my mistakes and be more successful in my chica selection. I have worked on my Spanish which is very helpful.

chica selection mistakes, bro, stay out the park! Did I tell you guys I learned spanish at the early age of six? I had a hot colombiana nanny who taught me the language, she was very persistent and paid me for every lesson! Yea, I banged her!

This is not meant as a brag, but, I usually have at least good sessions from the delrey. It does require work and discipline on my end to make a proper selection. Every now and then I will have an average or subpar session, but I have realized that just comes with the territory of hobbying.

During the peak hours, I love the fact that there are just so many available women under two roofs (BM and KL).

Making a good selection takes lots of patience and some mental discipline.

First one should narrow down the herd to a manageable number as the dallasman would write. Then start circling the prey and make the final approach to say hello and start a conversation in Spanish. If the initial contact is promising, then I pull them aside to a table and chit chat and sprinkle in some interview questions. See some of King Costa’s interview questions.

Ok dudes, look n learn. I usually have to beat them off with a stick, so narrowing the selection is important, take notice, first I try them with my spanish, whip a little french boudoir on them and then hit'em with my aussie accent and before you know I got "dos camarones on the barbie", then Bamn! Emeril and even Vegas Bob are jealous!

How do I know which chicas to approach ? If you have been closely observing the chicas movements and behaviors, you can tell which chicas are hardcore veterans and which ones are relatively inexperienced and fresh.

Approach......hell dude that's what your doing wrong. check me out, I am the one with yellow sneakers, red laces and a swarm of hot chicas around him. Well, I ain't no stud, but they can smell what they want......satisfaction! They actually offer for free sometimes! you need some schooling!

Be aware that while you may have narrowed down the herd, some of the herd may leave the premises with a gringo, chicas gets occupied talking with another gringo, some of the chicas may go home before you get a chance to speak with them for whatever reason (they worked all day and didn't get any work and they called it quits, they left with their chica friends to go eat, etc.)

This is part of the game, you must cut your losses and concentrate on the chicas that are still remaining in the BM/KL.

part of the game, speaking of the game, when I was 7 or 8 years old, I handicapped the Superbowl in 1994, I picked Montana for the MVP. I couldn't access my trust fund at the time so I went on the street and borrowed 5 dimes and put it on the game.......well, I had to go thru a friend of a friends step father. But he hooked me up and Boooyaaaah, you guys know the rest. Like taking candy from a baby!

As far as chica nationality, I really don't care what country the chica is from because I've had good ones from every country and I've had bad ones. Personally, I have an affinity for the homegrown Ticas.

Back to the interview in detail:

While I may have mentioned that I sprinkle in some interview questions, I don’t make a selection based solely on the chicas answers to my questions. I know that the chica network has conjured up perfect answers to most of our probing questions. Chicas tell us what we want to hear.

What you taking 'bout willis? Shiiite my chicas were telling me"aye rico" and "aye papi" up and down, that sh*t was real! Hey guys, what does "el tonto estúpido" mean in englais? My teacher didn't teach me that!

So, What is it that I look for during the initial moments of the interview ?

Is she warming up to me ? I know that she is working for the money, but, she should at least put on a good act and fake it like I can't tell she’s faking it and make me feel like a stud.

The chicas can smell it on me and talk to each other on that chica banana telephone thing!

Am I getting a hard on ? (Guys, this is not meant as a joke, seriously, sometimes after I talk to a chica for a couple of minutes there is lack of chemistry or something just didn't click)

Dudes, sorry about your problems, "Blue Steel" here all the time!

When I notice things aren't clicking, it is time to say goodbye on move onto the next chica.

Just kick'em to the curb and say next.....there is always a line waiting for me!

Ok, suppose things are going well, you are talking and joking around, enjoying a drink or dancing with her at the KL, great, perhaps you have found a potential good lay. At this point, there are still things that you should discuss with her. Sure, you could assume things are going to go well and wing it from here , but by discussing a couple of topics can save heartache and disappointment later in the evening.

Guys, it is all about "the prescence" and I'm not talking gifts! They know to git me, they get $40 dollars and thats it, they are lucky to have a good time with me, you phuckers need to go back to school! c ya...let me know when you want some schoolin!

Hung Low PM me if you need some advice!


Items for discussion:

Settling on time of session (1 hour, 2 hours, TLN, several days, all week,etc.)

1 hour, shit I'm back the DR in 12 minutes looking for my next cherry pie! and, that is after a shower!

Discuss the details of how you like to be made love to in bed, this includes how you like you BJ, does she like DATY? Is she open to DFK ? Which parts of your body do you want massaged or kissed ? Discuss showering before the session. I always make the chica shower beforehand since I like to kiss and suck her body, she needs to be clean and I shower too.

You're talking todo le noche right, what you pay for that? I git that for $55, and I make sure she don't get no sleep, and no, get your own taxi! You got to be firm with these chicas and show them who the boss is!

Settle on a price before you decide to invite her to your room. This topic is subjective. But I usually pay between 50-80 for short time. Since I'm a low volume guy, paying that higher price doesn't break my daily budget. The idea of paying cien is not a deal breaker for me. I have paid cien on three occasions. I got my monies worth as I got extended hours and multiple pops.

Here we go again, you phuckers drivin the price up....I'm still good at $40

I observe to see if the chica is comfortable with the terms, and I usually observe if she agrees to the terms without hesitation or reluctance. If I sense she is unhappy or uncomfortable with the terms then, it is best to move on to the next chica.

If she happily agreed to the terms, at this point, I will invite the gal back to the room.

Invite the girl. I have them begging me to take to the room. You must be one of those gentlemen dudes? he he

You might run into the issue where the chica demands money upfront. In my newbie days, I would have thrown a chica out based solely on principle. But as I have gained experience and as I have gained a sixth sense with these working gals, the request of payment upfront is not a deal breaker to me anymore.

I will pull out the money and count it, and place it in the desk or on the bathroom counter, and say to her “you can take it when we are done.” Of course, you should never hand the money to her before services are rendered. I've never had a problem and have had some great sessions with gals that demanded money upfront. Some of these chicas have been ripped off by guys that ended up shafting them on payment.

Money up front, I use a different method. I count the money and tell them to bend over and grab the door knob, I phuck'em hard for 2-3 minutes and leave a twenty in there crack and tell them to get out.


phuck, I can't stomach the rest of this!


Ok..first my apology to Hung Lo and my congratulations for an awesome post...........but I couldn't resist!

Also, an apology to any friends or veterans.....but sh*t happens!

Those who know me and have met me know this was intended for entertainment only! :P :lol:

Great post with great advice Hung LO! :twisted:

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GG..Post of the month...I almost pissed myself, beyond funny.

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