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Author:	VegasBob [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:19 am ]
Post subject:	What is a Novia?
This topic has been approached many times in many ways,but with some help from all of you,I hope to explore it a little deeper. To my way of thinking there are NOW 3 different levels of a relationship that a Gringo can have with a chica. These are 1. Amiga 2.Novia and 3.Esposa (God forbid) #3 in the past was never even a consideration,BUT since some of our respected brethren have chosen this path I need to include it. That's all I have to say about that. Now since all chicas that we have a casual relationship with,be it sexual or otherwise,fall into the Amiga catagory. Now comes the hard one. I keep hearing many of our members refering to a chica as their "Novia" What is a Novia? Is a chica that you are in a monogomous relationship with a Novia? Does it matter if she "used to" have sex for money. How about if she has sex with other guys currently? If she does,does it matter if she does it for love,or for money? Does it matter if the Gringo is living with the chica? Is it relevant if the Gringo is paying the chica's living expenses? At what point in support is the relationship a business one? Is it possible to "have a Novia" and still be an active mongerer? (Our MMen should chime in here) Well,it's stopped raining now,so I think I'll stop rambling and take a shower and head into town for another day of debauchery.

Author:	Orange [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:36 am ]
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Thanks for clearing that up VB. I was under the impression that a "novia" is a chica who you spend an extended amount of time (more than just the usual hour or two) with while you are in CR, but I didn't think it had to be an exclusive relationship, like a "real" girlfriend. I assumed you could still do your thing while she does her thing. Does paying retail prices or getting a discount matter, as far as the classification goes?

Author:	Hand-Solo [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:20 pm ]
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Maybe we draft a CRT constitution ... and include a "Bill of Definitions" defining different terms

Author:	Mucho Gusto [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a Novia?
Vegas Bob wrote: What is a Novia? Wow. This one might stir up a myriad of comments (especially from more m-men), so I want to chime in early. I believe that the title of "Novia" is all based on perception. How do we perceive this one woman? Is it monogomous between you and her? Can we have an Esposa (or SO) in the states, and a Novia on the "other side"? If you paid her in the beginning, do you continue to pay her "fair market value" for the ongoing time the two of you spend together? Are you really "special" to her? And for that matter, is she really "special" to you? There are so many variables to this equasion, I don't think that this is a "one size fits all" type of question. For those of us who don't reside in CR, our time there is always limited. The clock starts ticking as soon as we get off the plane. Amiga, novia, esposa, kitten, honey-bunny, chica, ATF, porn-star, piece of tail, moped, be-otch, whore, wife, mother, aunt, cousin, daughter, sister, etc. Call 'em what you want, but IMO, what's in a name? Or why try to rationalize them with some type of title or classification ? As long as she fulfills all my desires during the limited time that we're together, it doesn't matter to me what I call her. The only thing that matters to me is how I perceive her, in my own mind. But in the end, when all the smoke clears, I usually consider her as my CR "companion". Whether it's a whole night together, or an entire weekend, I like to use the word 'companion' to define my girl. If it were only about the sex, that would be different. But if you're spending a lot of time with them, drinking cocktails, going shopping, doing different restaurants, flying to the beach for the weekend, doing the GFE thing, then I think 'companion' fits the bill. YMMV! Great thread VB. I have a feeling it's going to get a lot more interesting. See ya next week at the poker table. Better bring your "A" game !!! Pura Vida, Mikey B.

Author:	GetRhythm [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:01 pm ]
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Okay - here's an M-Man response... I've always understood the translation of "novia" to mean "girlfriend", or someone with whom you have at least an implied monogamous relationship. During my mongering days, no matter how much I liked or received outstanding service from a certain girl, there is no way I would have deluded myself to the degree I would consider her a girlfriend. "Favorita" - yes, but anyone you have to pay to have sex with you doesn't get girlfriend status in my book. As to VB's other queries... Quote: Does it matter if she "used to" have sex for money. No, not if she's exclusive with you now. A working girl might be able to change her stripes under the right conditions, but if you ask me, better to hook-up with a non-pro to begin with. Quote: How about if she has sex with other guys currently? If she does, does it matter if she does it for love, or for money? Personally, I wouldn't tolerate it either way, nor would I expect her to tolerate it from me. Quote: Does it matter if the Gringo is living with the chica? Is it relevant if the Gringo is paying the chica's living expenses? At what point in support is the relationship a business one? IMHO, any situation where you're fully supporting the girl financially is more a "mistress" relationship than a novia. Quote: Is it possible to "have a Novia" and still be an active mongerer? (Our MMen should chime in here) Hate to say it guys, but the answer is no. Got to hold up your end of the bargain. GR (soon to pony up for his VIP renewal)

Author:	PacoLoco [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a Novia?
Vegas Bob wrote: What is a Novia? If she's a working girl? A DELUSIONAL FANTASY.

Author:	Zippy [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:33 pm ]
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VB, If we are talking P4P You forgot the most important catogory of them all for me anyway & the least dangerous one, THE Acquaintance. If they are much more than this?????? As far if it matters if she has been involved in P4P WTF, do you believe in miracles?? They say you never really understand a woman & this may be true because I don't know if they understand themselves but the things that I know to be a fact about them is the less men they have sleep with the better chance you have of a true relationship that will work (pretty well rules out any P4P types) & of course they are all expensive & trouble but life would be boring without them. Sounds like wives have been the equivalent of the BLACK WIDOW for you VB. I like to stay one step ahead of their fangs or let other men deal with that part.

Author:	Jimmydr [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:47 pm ]
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Rookies, some learn some do not.

Author:	LVSteve [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:56 pm ]
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I like the term "Favorita" that was introduced by GetRythem. As a matter of fact, VB should revise his original post to include is as a fourth option. I like it because it serves my current relationship rather well. Novia is a too strong a term to describe my current situation but Favorita is good because I can feel free to roam (and so can she). Novia or girlfriend brings to mind the days of "going steady" or friendship rings. With favorita, you don't have to feel guilty. I LIKE IT!! LVSteve

Author:	Chi_trekker [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:13 pm ]
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I have some chicas that I hang with during the day. Go to the park... shoot pool.... shop... have lunch....etc. They are working girls, but I still consider them "amigas". Amigas with benefits. Moreover, I'd say she isnt' a novia if you are paying for it. Especially, if she is working on the side. No way... that is either your or her fantasy of a relationship.

Author:	Zippy [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:28 pm ]
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He is my rating system (not that it matters) in order of importance & function. 1. Acquaintance = anything goes as long as both agree & have fun. Sometimes Vitamin C-L-V needed! Damn ads to the cost. Condom a must. 2. Favorita Acquaintance = Anything goes as long as both agree & have fun with more zest than above. Full erection achieved without ED drugs. Less expense with more natural enthusiasm & more time spent without extra pay. May even give a little gift to show appreciation. Condoms a must because we know what the do when we are not around. 3. Friend = Simple I never phuck a friend period because then they would become a Novia. 4. Girlfriend = Novia = Lots of ties & closed in relationship No condoms & a place I donâ€™t want to be very long, since they always seem to have more problems than I the eject button is kept close at hand. She sets the tone of the relationship as far as seeing other people until We canâ€™t stand each other anymore then anything goes til I get rid of her & find another. Till then pinch hitters & fill ins will do because I know the relationship is doomed at that point. 5. Wife = The best that life has to offer if you have the right one. Good Luck on this one. Loyal as can be expected at least till the 7 year itch arrives & might fill in some acquaintances with meaning less sex if she becomes less active tahn I want to be & all else fails. Ball most likely in her court on this one. Too many variables to call until you are there. Yes no condom with this one! Never send money to any of them ever not even a true Novia since they were not poor & they were proud they never asked, never had to by love but pay the going rate for spontaneous sex. A wife would be different would give the right one anything & everything with in reason.

Author:	Lee [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:	PacoLoco
PacoLoco: Quote: If she's a working girl? A DELUSIONAL FANTASY. It is good to see that the group I consider myself part of has more than one member. Having never participated in this phenomenon I am not qualified to contribute to the formation of a definition. But as a curious observer I must agree with the above quote that it must be some form of fantasy. I know that it is a popular thing to chastise one for asking questions that can be answered by reading. But Vegas Bob made reference to members recently marrying or about two marry. Could this be. Who's the adventurous ( politically correct word ) individual or individuals who have the self-confidence to do this? Lee

Author:	Ladiesloveme [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:	*Spending my Kds Inheritance in CR**
Any sweetie who spends more than a few hours with me is a NOVIA, at least for the time she is with me. Its more respectful to call her a novia than a working girl. And yes I have been known to have many NOVIAS at the same time. They seem to love it too Jimmy D

Author:	Tman [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:22 pm ]
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Just for the record fellow gringos...NOVIA has strong connotations in this culture. In Latin culture, Novia-Novio is a very exclusive relationship, next to "Comprometido" (engaged), then of course..."casado" (married). At every stage from Novia to wife, the man is expected to support, protect and be faithful. BUT...as many of us know the Latin double standard...the male is expected to stray and have side relationships over his whole life. The Novia is expected to FIGHT for her man, support him, and look the other way at infidelities. (I can hear some of you guys getting excited already). Also for the record...when a GRINGO is the NOVIO, he is held to a much higher standard...and NOT expected to "play". In many cases we play into their hands here. BUT, I would suggest that the local massage parlors and strip clubs are full of NOVIOS to husbands who are "taking the night off". Their woman is probably home taking care of the baby(s) and talking to her girlfriends about how WONDERFUL her Novio is. It's really quite the Tango this couples dance in Latin America. Fortunately for most of you guys, the Latinas understand your different perspective on the light meaning of "Novia"... Now I have to go find VegasBob and see who his Novia of the night is ...

Author:	Zippy [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:02 pm ]
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How Tman man stated it is exactly how it is to a T. Makes it a no brainer too me if you are shopping for a keeper just make sure there is no P4P in their life is my advise or you will be a dog chasing your tail trying to catch her tail.

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