Great post ! I won't be in San Jose until thanksgiving for two weeks, then I'll look forward to give a little, take a little, and share a lot of leche. Pura Vida !
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| Author: | Bookumdanno [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:56 am ] |
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Before I begin... Let me first apologize for writing this in my drunken state via the Hotel Presidente lounge. Just arrived and hit the town a few hours ago. Sitting here listening to my favorites on the Ipod, typing on this piece of shit keyboard at the Hotel. To get to the point... I would like to respond to ruffnutz post about "liars" and life in general. His post hit me good, made me think more than I've thought in several years. I decided to wait a few weeks til I responded. With all due respect to his post, I felt it would be best to start a new post so you OG's could tear me up w/o messing up his post. To begin, I don't believe anyone is a liar; we all say what we have to say to fulfill needs that we all seek (better said, what we all seek to be). We make up stories to be someone we have hoped to be in life, some of us have reached those dreams, some of us haven't.... We Monger to fulfill needs that have yet to be fulfilled... If you're suffering from a self-conceived love of one’s self... Please stop reading this post... as you will not like what you read... actually... you most likely can't accept the message I'm going to post. If you're open-minded and can listen to a brother who will post his true thoughts... please continue to read. Back to a previous point... I don't believe we are liars... We're all trying to fulfill un-meet needs. I believe we do what we do to fill the void (that empty f'd up feeling we feel when alone, or with someone who doesn't meet are needs). We're all narcissistic (if you don't know what the Hell that means...look it up). It's a false sense of love for oneself, basically it means we're messed up and try to fulfill our needs with... mongering, alcohol, drugs, power issues, etc. We love ourselves and would like to believe everyone loves us, although deeply inside we know, they don't love us for who we are, they love us for our $$$, or who we pretend to be (however, Latinas are different, many have true energy that most of us aren't aware of it, but sense it). I'll address the "energy" thing later if I can still keep your interest in reading this crazy post. .... I spent the last few hours at the BM looking at the most incredible chicas I've seen (since the last time here in Feb. 05). Interestingly, I met a Newby in the Atlanta airport, he had the look in his eyes as though, "I'm going to CR for the first time and don't have a F-ing clue what I'm going to do there". Sensing the positive energy I decided to talk to him (I was prompted to talk to him). I asked him, "First time to CR", he said, "Yes, how did you know?") I told him it was in his eyes, he wore it on his sleeve... 24 years old, a look of innocence, and eager to experience life. I was in his shoes 15 years ago, and definitely could relate. Me being the "giver" that I am offered to show him around CR. He's not a "Mongerer" like us. Christian upbringing, doesn't drink (never has), never experienced the other side of life. Basically, he doesn't have too many unfilled needs (yet). I got a cab with him to show him a good Hotel (Presidente), tried to get him the CRT rate $49 vs $65, but the new guy at the desk wouldn't go for it w/o talking to Wendy in the morning. (This part is for information only) Anyway... we hit the News cafe for a Vino pinto for me and a Coca Cola for him. I warned him of what he'd see in the BM and he was all game. We walked over to the BM and saw the same incredible talent I've seen many times b4. The K*D (Steven) was in awe, he was like a K*D in a candy store, but still stuck to his messed up Christian upbringing (love to do it, but WILL NOT PAY FOR IT). This type of behavior brought me back to my first time in CR, 15 years ago while in CR for a college study abroad program for 3 months. I hit Jaco for a weekend pass and nearly drowned while surfing...long story...I'll save the details unless someone asks. I was at the Monkey bar with some fellow students and a "friendly" approached me, she was very friendly and asked what I was doing. In my total ignorance I said I was here for college. I asked her where she was from, she said, "La capital, San Jose". I then asked, "what are you doing in Jaco", she said (in Spanish), "looking for love". Me still being totally innocent to mongering I said, "No me digas, yo tambien estoy buscando amor" (No way, I too am looking for love). She said, "$50" (this was 15 years ago). At first I didn't have an f-ing clue what she meant by $50. After I looked at her and realized a totally hot chicha hitting on me must be a little odd, that was when I realized she was the "CR talent". I was totally shocked and said, "Oh, esperas, no pago para sexo, me gustaria tener sexo con tigo, per no voy a pagar para hacerlo" (Oh, wait a minute, I don't pay for sex, but I'd like to F U, but I'm not going to pay for it). Got her down to $10 and still didn't hit it....That was 15 years ago... Holy shit, if we could get it from hot Ticas for $10, we'd extend another week. Anyways, the short of this part of the story is I could relate with WTF Steven was thinking and going through his first time at the BM. He had a 6-7 chica hittin on him for 2 hours trying to convince him this was her first time working it and was only here to accompany her sister (I later saw her sister leaving the elevator at Presidente, and she asked me where her sister ended up). Yada Yada... been there done that... Back to my original point of this post.... I personally believe we're all trying to fulfill some unmeet needs, my good bro Ruffnutz hit the surface of what he was trying to say. I think he was trying to say that some of us come here to meet women who will share their energy with us. A little deep, however, I truly believe there's an energy that all living organisms share (whether it be humans, plants, or animals).... Everything in this world has something to share. Note the key word is "share" if you're a "taker" you should end your life now, it's not worth living. The world is filled with "Takers, Sharers, and Givers". "Sharers", in my mind are the most wonderful people in the world. Yeah, we take some, but overall we share enough to equal everything out. "Takers" are the worst type of people in the world; they continually suck energy from you and never give anything back. "Givers", I have a deep sympathy for these people (many, (not all) of our beloved Ticos/Ticas are Givers"), that's why I continue to visit this wonderful country. I won't go into detail about the different types of energies to spare those who don't like to read long drawn out shit. Bottom line is... We have a Hell of a lot in common... we're messed up, seek commonality (CRT), but are mostly great guys looking to fulfill our needs. What better way to do it by sharing our "energy" ($$$) with our "Givers"/Ticas??? I'll meet a few of you on Thursday, hopefully if you read this drawn out BS you won't hold it against me, just trying to have an open forum where we can share our thoughts and be true brothers. Tuanis Maje, bookumdanno BTW, I'm going to kick some ass at the poker tourney. |
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| Author: | DildoMan [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:47 am ] |
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Puta madre, you "just" arrived to paradise and you are wasting your precious time writing this stuff? Whatever you are drinking must be strong no sh!t. Dildo Man |
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| Author: | ChiroterryUSA [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:49 am ] |
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Great post ! I won't be in San Jose until thanksgiving for two weeks, then I'll look forward to give a little, take a little, and share a lot of leche. Pura Vida !
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| Author: | Florida [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | THINK OUTSIDE THE GULCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
you can get hot kittens for $10.00 -25.00 but you have to leave the gulch. i had TBFE outside the gulch  HAVE A GREAT KITTEN
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| Author: | TicaFan [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:58 am ] |
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I'm not familiar with Ruff's post you reference. So maybe I'm not in context of your feelings on the subject. Perhaps it's better that I am not. But what's the point? What's really your point? It sounds like you're not feeling good about yourself right now. Am I wrong? Why can't we just enjoy ourselves like we did when we were young- when we were K*ds? We didn't ask questions when mom and dad took us for ice cream. What's wrong with going to the fair or circus when we are K*ds? If it's selfish and narcissistic, why do our parents take us? Perhaps they are narcisstic and weak for wanting to see us enjoy ourselves? It's very normal to be a man and want to be with women. It's programmed in us. Perhaps to the extent in some that it's a "curse." But we don't have to feel bad(unless we just want to) about it just because on our way to CR we saw a man with his wife and K*ds looking happy and content presumably on their way to or from a destination. We'd all love to be happy doing something. I'm trying to be happy doing something that is actually pretty amazing in many ways. Would I rather be a man not bound by lust, attraction to women, perhaps even some inability to find long, lasting love? Sure. That would be great. I could also lie to myself and pretend if I just do x, and x, and x, some girl that I truly want will fall in love with me. I'm all for not being selfish, fearful, narcissistic, even evil. But I don't believe going to CR for all it is makes me that. Now, believe me, I realize I'm new to CR and at some point I might find it a horribly awful place. But if it becomes that bright and glaring a mirror to my soul, I suppose I'll have to stop. Maybe the problem a lot of us have is we just can't be happy no matter what circumstance we find ourselves in? I guess there's always monkhood. Again, I might be way off and don't understand your post. You mentioned you've been drinking and that's often a depressing thing(I don't drink in part for that reason). Perhaps what happens down there for some is they start feeling guilty or depressed and for that they start searching too deep for an answer. It's funny though, I sometimes notice an aire about some married people as if they are using their family- the fact that their family exists- as a way to suggest or put forth they are normal people when I know deep inside they are insecure, selfish, uncaring, poor lovers- or have a wife that gives no sex. Now if you were that person, how miserable would you be without the K*ds to make you seem normal or occupy your time? Maybe we mongers have too much time on our hands in Costa Rica, I don't know. Another thing is most of us have to sort of keep it from the people we know and love who actually have the most impact(and judgement) on our lives- like it's a dirty secret when it's not. It's not like I can say, "hey mom, brother and sister, I'm heading to the CR candy store. I'll let you know how it goes." But for all we know, it's for their good, not ours that we keep it a secret. The secrecy might seem symtomatic of a problem with us going to CR but it's really not us that makes that secrecy necessary, is it? A lot of other people live sheltered lives they wouldn't understand. Further, they wouldn't want to hear about it because it challenges the direction they have in their lives- being "normal." Our understanding and ability to deal with just enjoying a place like CR is part of what gives us a broader and complete understanding of the world. Yeah, it sucks to have a "bad experience" down there. It's not fun being hit on by girls that really only want your money no matter how nice you are or what your intentions could be or would be with "the right girl". But at least down there you know the score unlike in the US when chit happens and you don't even know why or if you did something wrong. If we're down there and so emotionally vulnerable that it messes us up then I guess it should cause some introspection. But you know what? change your attitude, don't wear you heart on your sleeve, make some good guy friends, and have sex with the ladies, put all your insecurities in a bag for a while, and live like a king. Life's too short and you have to accept yourself for who you are. The object in life is to progress, not be perfect. Be nice to the girls and pick out good ones. If CR is a step in the wrong direction for you(or me or anyone), don't go. If it's holding you back or keeping you from progressing, what should you be doing instead to progress in life? Find out and do it. I think over time we can get so jaded that no matter what we do we feel guilty. We become programmed to feel guilty, not happy. We've even been told by other people to feel guilty or that we're not doing the right thing or that we'll always not measure up somehow. Or worse, we choose to put that on ourselves without someone else's help. Don't be cruel. Be nice. Do not degrade anyone. Cover your ass- be careful. Drive a hard, but fair bargain if you need to. Leave CR as clean as it was when you arrived. Try to put a little extra money in their pockets. WTH is wrong that? Once again, I apologize if I am missing your point completely. I'm just in a personal position where a lot of my friends are married, dating and settling down. I'm not there, for whatever reason. I'm actually not making new friends that easily either. Don't know why, it just seems like things come easier when you're 20 or 30. It's not like I'm telling great girls I won't date them or that I turn down meeting girls that want to meet because I realize I'm a week from leaving for CR to monger. It's just not happening. I'm tired of going out and feeling like a tool some nights I go out early to meet people on my own. It really sucks to be in a bar feeling single then leaving feeling like a tool. THAT screws with my head. Most things that screw with our head actually shouldn't, but it does. CR is a cakewalk compared to that. Yes, I realize what I just said might be a window into my own soul and need for growth but I really really don't believe CR prevents me from progressing or growing. On the contrary, it makes me feel better knowing that even that thing which I desire most is fraught with peril and disillusionment potentially so that just to have it(girl, family) at home in the US is no panacea. I have no desire to feel in CR the way I feel in the US. I want to feel free and enjoy CR or anywhere I travel. |
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| Author: | LVSteve [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:00 am ] |
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Bookumdanno; One thing I did get from your post was the part about Ticas/Ticos being givers, not takers (for the most part). I agree with you. It's all about "Pura Vida" here and most folks from the U.S. and other more developed countries have a hard time understanding that. Consequently, you find more takers than givers in the US and Europe. Its a rat race and so far it isn't here but I see signs that the times they are a changing and CR could easily become another US (South). In the meantime, just relax, enjoy and don't think too much. Maybe I'll see you tonight in the DR and we can discuss your post in more detail. LVSteve |
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| Author: | VegasBob [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:02 am ] |
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What ever happened to good ole SPORTFUCKING. Sex for fun,or sex for money,or either or both simultaneously is a force to be dealt with. If you are experiencing all these empty feelings by participating in this hobby,then you should find another that "gives you pleasure". There is nothing wrong with a little hedonism in one's life so long as we don't hurt anyone. (and helping a nice chica along financially certainly isn't hurting anyone) |
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| Author: | Osgood [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:33 am ] |
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you looked into a male tourist's eye in a busy airport and decided to get him discount in presidente and show him around the blue marlin and he's a tea-totalling christian bore,i hope you have better luck looking into the chicas eyes down there........................... |
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| Author: | Dragon [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:00 pm ] |
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Corrupting today's youth. Love it. |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:21 pm ] |
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Bookumdanno, Your Quote: If you're open-minded and can listen to a brother who will post his true thoughts
Ok I read your post & see a lot of truths there but to me you seem to have lost your way a bit & remember you have arrived at your destination relax & enjoy. I believe drinking & the gulch are not a very conducive to find one's inner self but the gulch is a great place to study people. Remember last time drinking got you in big trouble with the drug in your drink.  You could have just as easily died that night. I was there when your ordeal happened & it also happened to another tica that layed passed out on the floor the following night. Just have fun keep your drink covered & don't look for rhyme or reason you will only make things worse.  
I agree with your energy ideas & sharing thoughts. Met a Tica that turn me on to her thoughts of energy, some of these Latinas have some interesting concepts!! The Ticas give off an energy to me that I just enjoy as a whole & hard to find this type of energy here.
Your story about years ago a the Monkey Bar is what makes CR a great place. I like straight forward girls that tell you up front what they want & deliver it instead of all the mindless manipulations that we play at home where I see all too many try & hurt someone if they don't get their way instead of just walk away. My first trip there I figured this was the best way for me to play but play only. Have a great trip & just relax. |
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| Author: | Malecat [ Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:01 am ] |
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From Book; "Before I begin... Let me first apologize for writing this in my drunken state...." Boy I know that feeling.....EVERYTHING seems like a good idea when one is drunk. For a variety of reasons I do not drink anymore, but I can still remember its effect in regard to a precieved heightening of ones insight, and the almost irresistable urge to convey such wisdom to anyone willing to listen. Please don't misunderstand my intentions here; I'm not trying to run Book down for being drunk and honest. Nor am I a party pooper ex drinker; in fact I enjoy being with those who party hardy, I usually have a damn good time! But I want to be honest too, and when I find myself in the company of one who is well into his or her cups, I know I must take anything they do or say with a grain of salt. |
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| Author: | Right Hand Man [ Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:35 pm ] |
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Writing a drunken post, didn't some guy named Jerry Maguire regret that. I guess not ultimately. Alcohol can be truth serum. |
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| Author: | Ablissman [ Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:49 pm ] |
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Amen to what VegasBob said! |
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