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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:46 pm 
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Calderon Guardia Hospital had a pretty bad fire according to BBC news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4675479.stm Not sure where this hospital is in SJ...

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Its the hospital only 2 blocks from the Sportmens Lodge. Sad case of no fire alarms, reported stairways locked up, etc. 17 people now reported dead. An ugly scene for last night...


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YO Guys:
That is real bad news and quite sad. Back on the old Board I mentioned about fire alarms being a problem with buildings in CR. One of a number reasons I would not want to be in a CR hospital......I hope this initiates something being done by public officials.....but sadly I doubt it.


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None of the buildings in general have fire alarms. OR fire exits. And they have bars on all the windows so the criminals can't get in. And you can't get out, should there be a fire.


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Most of the dead (now 20) were patients and one Doctor.
Its a shame.
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Yes ,this is very sad news. There was a gas related explosion. Some roads blocked off. I was on my way back from Kamur when all this happened. i'll post later about that. I knda feel guilty about how good a night I had when this tradegy is only a couple of blocks away. :?

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Prayers for all and their families.

Sprinklers and automatic closing smoke-barrier doors are standard in the US, but incredibly expensive.

Prayers for the CR SJ hospital people.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:53 am 
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I'm not sure if we want to identify our exact status as visitors to CR, or even as memembers of CRT, but since SL is in the neighborhood, maybe a collection could be taken to help out (get the medical staff back in action ASAP? some equipment, or things they'd have to replace themselves?) and come identifed "from the guests at Sportsmen's Lodge"?


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YO Diego:

I know where you heart is and most everyone here would want to help in some way. It is my opinion that donating dinero to this is not the way to go.....there are too many causes needing monetary support. I would offer that we speak with out tico, tica and ex-pat friends and advise them to write or speak to publications and government authorities and work toward implenentation of smoke alarm systems in hospitals and eventually all commercial buildings. This will be difficult in a cash strapped and priority searching country but if one day it is achieved it will be much more beneficial.

The citizens there hold the answers....hopefully this sad occurance will give them the incentive to prod the authorities.


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This article from AM Costa Rica this morning describes the lack of safety equipment at the hospital and the Presidents explanation as to why, in spite of the fact that they were aware of the problem, it has not been addressed.
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Recriminations begin over hospital tragedy

By the A.M. Costa Rica staff


As the full impact of the hospital Calderón Guardia tragedy became clear Tuesday, Costa Ricans were shocked and enraged that the older section of the building did not have even the most basic fire protection and alarms.

Some 18 person — including three nurses— died in the early morning fire, and official and unofficial sources revealed that the hospital did not have emergency exits, fire alarms or sprinklers. In fact, a well-thumbed health ministry report predicted point by point the tragedy that took place.

The fire consumed some 4,000 square meters, the fifth and part of the fourth floor of the 52-year-old structure. María del Rocio Sáenz, health minister, set the financial loss at $8 million not counting equipment and furnishings.

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The rapidly moving fire seems to have begun in the only available stairway. Patients in the neurosurgical unit on the fifth floor and in the cardiology unit on the fourth floor died in their beds or on the floor seeking air.

The light of day revealed a structure with the entire fifth floor charred and with large gaps in the roof. The bulk of the hospital is newer and is an independent structure although just some six feet south of the older building.

President Abel Pacheco told a Tuesday news conference that the required improvements were not made to the hospital because Costa Rica is a poor country and lacks the money. He used the opportunity to push again for the proposed new tax plan languishing in the Asamblea Nacional. Pacheco, himself, is a physician and a sometimes patient at Calderón Guardia. During a 7 a.m. visit to the scene of the tragedy the president ducked a newsman's question about why a similar but lesser fire several months ago at the same facility did not result in reforms.

Pacheco declared three days of national mourning in honor of the victims and said he was considering declaring a national emergency that would allow better management of the fire's aftermath.

Hospital CIMA, a new, private facility west of San José is the only accredited hospital in the country. The remainder of the private hospitals have deficiencies also well documented by health studies. Only the just-opened Alajuela public hospital has modern fire detection and prevention equipment.

Calderón Guardia is in Barrio Aranjuez, northeast San José two blocks north of Parque Nacional.


Fire Chief Chávez
Hector Chavez, head of the bomberos or firemen was quick to point out the obvious deficiencies when he talked with reporters in the morning:

“The hospital didn’t comply with any preventative measures. It had no fire escapes, no detectors for smoke or high temperatures, no illuminated exit signs and no fire sprinklers.” Nor

did the hospital have an emergency evacuation plan, although one was listed as necessary several years ago.

About 300 firemen were at the blaze, Chavez said. There also were many aid workers. A reporter saw persons using normal extension ladders to try to save people trapped on higher floors and patients knotting bed sheets together to escape. The patients who were saved as well as rescuers said that the stairways had burned down, stranding people in the building. More than 500 patients were in the hospital when the blaze broke out.

One of the patients, Alfonso Perez Alvarado, was a 17-year-old Turrialba youth who had a brain tumor removed 15 days earlier. Doctors said the procedure saved his life. The operation went well, and he was expected to fully recover, attendants said. He died in the blaze.

Patricia Fallas, a nurse, was found on the fourth floor clutching a flashlight. President Pacheco said that this mother of two should be regarded as a hero because she saved many lives before succumbing to the smoke. Two other nurses died as well as 15 patients, said hospital workers.

Another victim, a 55-year-old Tres Rios man, Rodolfo Arguedas, also had a brain tumor. “He couldn’t move,” said his niece Marta Soto Arguedas and nephew Mauricio Monge. The cousins met for the first time in their lives Tuesday morning while searching a list for the whereabouts of their uncle.

Workers for the judicial morgue started removing bodies from the edifice at about 1:30 p.m. Tuesday. Of the 15 patients killed in the blaze, only two were women. The blaze was centered on a male ward.

Dr. Alejandro Hernandez Alvarez, the night head of the emergency room, told reporters that more information would be released at a morning press conference today.

Contributing to this report were Saray Ramírez Vindas, associate editor; intern Jesse Froehling; photographer José Pablo Ramírez Vindas, and editor Jay Brodell

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