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| Author: | Dapanz1 [ Sun May 22, 2005 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Immigration raid @ Del Rey |
Can anyone confirm or deny an immigration raid today at the Del Rey?Somewhere around 3 PM or so. dapanz1 |
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| Author: | SlickWings [ Sun May 22, 2005 7:51 pm ] |
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It was very clear on the anonymous call: Only go after the Columbians! No offense. I love Columbians, but they steal me blind. |
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| Author: | RearWindow [ Mon May 23, 2005 2:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | That is no help |
SlickWings wrote: It was very clear on the anonymous call: This is starting to sound like the Dom Rep, and that is not a good thing. Raids are a bad sign of the future of our hobby. Since Jan 05- Boca Chica/SD shut down ( None reopen); Ciudad Juarez..4 major shutdowns (most reopen)but chicas have moved:Now CR is in the act? What we are seeing is NAFTA extremism filtering down thanks to the Christian white ..errr...right...evandevilcals.
Only go after the Columbians! No offense. I love Columbians, but they steal me blind. |
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| Author: | Irish Drifter [ Mon May 23, 2005 9:58 am ] |
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Quote: What we are seeing is NAFTA extremism filtering down thanks to the Christian white ..errr...right...evandevilcals.
I think that is reading a lot into the situation. As Blue Coyote explained the ZB raid was caused by a disgruntled ex employee. He pointed out that these situations are not unexpected and he has contingency plans to deal with them. The Del Rey is raided periodically by immigration looking for illegal girl working. It is not the first raid and will not be the last. The raids are immigration based not morality inspired. |
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| Author: | Dapanz1 [ Mon May 23, 2005 10:05 am ] |
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My question remains..was there a raid yesterday? I'm curious for reasons of my own. VB? dapanz1 |
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| Author: | RearWindow [ Mon May 23, 2005 10:19 am ] |
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Ding Dong wrote: Quote: What we are seeing is NAFTA extremism filtering down thanks to the Christian white ..errr...right...evandevilcals. I think that is reading a lot into the situation.The raids are immigration based not morality inspired. |
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| Author: | SparkChaser69 [ Mon May 23, 2005 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | immigration raids |
I can't answer Dapanz1's question, but I have been in the Beatle bar during a INS sweep. I asked my favorita why so few girls tonight and she pointed to the INS guys across the street.  After they walked through and left it was business as usual.  I think most of the times the girls know its coming. Just my 2 Colones worth.
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| Author: | VegasBob [ Mon May 23, 2005 12:07 pm ] |
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I haen't been in town since Saturday evening,so I don't know if there was an immigration raid. I am going to be there today,so I will post tomorrow. |
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| Author: | Honkytonk [ Mon May 23, 2005 10:22 pm ] |
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As long as they don't raid the rooms. I'm cool. The columbians do steal you blind. |
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| Author: | VegasBob [ Tue May 24, 2005 9:23 am ] |
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Well so much for all the Right Wing conspiracy theories, there was NO IMMIGRATION RAID at the Del Rey on Sunday. Obviously someone confused their information with the raid that did take place at ZB. So all of you with loved ones visiting here in CR can stop worrying. |
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| Author: | Dapanz1 [ Tue May 24, 2005 11:10 am ] |
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VB..thanks for the info. dapanz1 |
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| Author: | Dallasman [ Tue May 24, 2005 4:10 pm ] |
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Immigration Raids: A brief history, perspective. Costa Rica has been very lax over the years in terms of enforcing their immigration policy. A couple of things started to happen over the past seven years to change their policy. Two to three years ago, Costa Rica had sweeping changes in their naturalization process for citizenship. In the past, if you were national from another country, resided in Costa Rica, and could prove employment, after a couple of years, you could gain citizenship. This is no longer the case, it is much more complicated. Two things happened to change all of this. A massive influx of illegal immigrants streaming out of Nicaragua has caused huge problems. On top of this, the drug pipeline out of Colombia and it's unwanted baggage has put pressure on the government. The US, along with it's CIA and FBI have in cooperation with the local government played a hand in part of this. On top of this, massive pressure has been placed on Costa Rica, by human rights groups and concerned governments to stop the abuse associated with their liberal sexual laws, and Ch*ld prostitution which attracted the scum of North America and Europe. This pressure had economic implications. In the past, raids to places such as the Blue Marlin did occur, but it was for show, not tell, and at times was simply a 'message' that more hush money was needed. Deportation stemming from a raid was unheard of. This all changed in December of 2002. The first thing the local government did to try to control prostitution, was to enforce some of it's laws, namely taking out agencies and pimps. There is, and will be no change in allowing prostitution, even el presidente used(uses?) the service. But image is important, so changes are happening as I type this. In December of 2002, a huge raid happened at the del Rey, and sixty-two Colombian nationals were deported, along with ladies from several other countries. This raid was a huge shock, and it has not changed since then. The officers were rude, and really shook Big John, et al, to the bone. The good thing is at that time, the Colombian ladies were intimidating all of the other ladies, and were enforcing this $100.00 price. Shortly after these ladies left, the price structure drifted back to normal. There have been several other raids, I have been there for two of them. Easy has been there for all of them ( ???? ). On a couple of occasions, the officers have been very rude, discourteous to everyone, and for the first time, I saw Big John, Miguel Hine, and everyone who works in the delRey seem very upset, and I could tell they were helpless. It is wise to carry your passport with you, or a certified copy. I saw them haul off a few Americans who were not allowed to go upstairs to their room to get it. They spend several hours detained in not the best of conditions, and were treated like common criminals. I had two friends spend all night in jail. The future of legal prostitution in Costa Rica is safe for the time being, but the delivery system will be monitored more closely. This country is trying to join the big leagues as the star of Central America, and is willing to do what it takes in order to be accepted by the big boys. The immigration jail, just two blocks from the delRey is not a comfortable place to spend the night. You will not be treated with dignity and respect. Buena Suerte hermano's Dman |
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| Author: | Sandino [ Tue May 24, 2005 5:31 pm ] |
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I've also been at the DR a couple of times when it was raided, and each time they hauled away one or two gringos along with the multitudes of Colombianas. I was never asked for my passport so I'm not sure if they did random checks on these guys or what. I would definitely heed the advice of Dallasman and always keep a copy of your passport on you. You never know what may happen, even in a safehaven like the DR. |
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| Author: | Gopher [ Mon May 30, 2005 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What is a "certified copy?" |
I have taken to making a nice color copy of my passport when traveling there, but still keep the original in the room safe. I also try to remember to copy the migracion stamp to keep with it. Guess they could still haul me off for not having the real thing. Dallasman mentioned a "certified copy." Anybody know how to get such a thing? Who "certifies" it? |
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| Author: | Irish Drifter [ Mon May 30, 2005 4:47 pm ] |
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This subject has been discussed ad infinitum here. There has been much information posted some accurate, some inaccurate and some just absolutely incorrect. There are two distinct periods. Before late 2004/early 2005. Prior to then, you had to carry your passport with you at all times. Many people, being afraid of theft took to carrying a copy of their passport and their entry stamp. Some, wanting more safety, had an attorney (all notaries in CR must be attorneys) certify these copies. Although, technically, this did not meet the requirements of the law most times this was widely accepted by the authorities. In late 2004, at the behest of the US Embassy (because of the significant amount of theft and lose of US passports by tourists) and the Costa Rican Tourist authorities, Immigration made a significant change. They legitimized the common practice and announced you could now carry a photo-copy of your passport and entry stamp. They did retain the right to accompany you back to your hotel and inspect your original documentation. Some problems arose in the early months as it took time for word of the new policy to filter down to the cop on the street. This supposedly has been fixed and in fact there was a posting here a short while back that when you clear immigration at SJO they give you a yellow leaflet advising of the new procedure. |
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