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SJO MOVIE -- Good Idea or Bad??? Tell Me
yes 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
no 86%  86%  [ 31 ]
really don't know or care 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:55 pm 
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I am currently in Costa Rica working on two film projects --- completely independent from eachother. However, they both deal with the Costa Rica Pro experience, lifestyles and other key factors that make the experience interesting and the lifestyle interesting, both for the American male and Latina. I've been studying, and of course, a little "hands-on" expereince doesn't hurt anyone, as well as writing the script based a lot on the stories I've heard in the Blue Marlin, Key Largo and other local places... I am writing from a very positive light, not intending to "blow up" the spot or make the women seem cheap by no means - Many have become my personal friends for life and I cherish that. I spoke with a friend who just left today about the project and asked for his advice. His advice: Please don't mention Costa Rica, instead use a fict name in Panama...

Two things I need, one a "good name" for the "make believe" city and two your personal opinion on how or how it will not hurt if i use SJO, but change the name of the locales.... Please your comment means a lot and I will consider each one...

I am flexible. I am mainly concerned on telling a story about the failure of the American woman's role as a girlfriend, wife and homemaker...

I have set up a special email if you find yourself uncomfortable with giving a public statement on this board. It is CHICAFLIX13@yahoo.com.

For the record, I appreciate the women in Costa Rica 110%...I have felt extremely happy, at ease and sad(when it's time to go back home)... I am totally on your side, so long as you show these beautiful women respect and cariño...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:21 pm 
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Hey Mike, my two cents worth. dont identify Costa Rica specifically. Lets keep it our little secret. Many of us mongers are professionals with wifes, girlfriends, families and friends back home who would not approve of our little "hobby" south of the boarder. I think if your project identified Costa Rica and SJO by name, it would make it extremely difficult for many of us to get away on our little excursions. My vote for that fictitious country your asking about is "south of the border"

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:17 am 
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I see two maybe three problems: giving CR a bad rep and at the same time attracting idiots to the country who couldn't find it if it wasn't in a movie, and comparing homemaking with prostitution.

But if you have to do it, say its Havana Cuba and the gringos are sneaking in through Mexico. That should stir up some fun.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:17 am 
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Fictional name? Parador was used as a fictional name for a Latin American country in a film with Richard Dreyfus and Sonia Braga. It sounded vaguely like Paraguay or Panama but wasn't and so added to the mystery (is there really such a place?). I have what I think is a better suggestion for this little project. How about Paramour? It has a touch of sarcasm or irony.

\Par"a*mour\, n. [F. par amour, lit., by or with love. See 2d Par, and Amour.] 1. A lover, of either sex; a wooer or a mistress (formerly in a good sense, now only in a bad one); one who takes the place, without possessing the rights, of a husband or wife; -- used of a man or a woman.

That said if you do this it all, which I'm not encouraging, it should definitely be at least disguised or fictionalized. First, the CR authorities are not big on promoting or publicising this aspect of their tourism industry. Secondly, its one thing to share information with those that are already aware of CR's sexual appeal, but why bring unnecessary publicity to it that would only serve to swell the ranks of the mongers aleready down there to the detriment of all of us or, worse, to add to the unfavorable attention of those that do not approve of such activities and actively apply pressure on the CR government to crack down on it (ie the christian right). Third, as has been pointed out, there are many mongers and chicas that would not want to be publicly (in the larger society) associated with these types of activities.

Is this going to be a fictionalized story or some sort of documentary. If it is a documentary are you going to employ silhouetted interviews or voice-disguises and such? Are you going to keep identifying landmarks out of all the scenes? You say you are going to portray everything in a positive light, but there is a seamy underbelly to our little world too - sickos that go down there for und***ge sex, girls who fall into the business not so much out of choice but of dire life circumstances, drug abuse by some of the chicas, rip-offs and con jobs by others, cross-cultural marriages that rarely work out and where is the happy ending for most of the chicas. I don't mean to sound negative as I think those things are a relatively small part of it, but to ignore it completely would be as non-objective as those other researchers who choose to focus only on the negatives, otherwise this is really just a puff piece.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:36 am 
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Overall, I don't think that the attention given to Costa Rica will be appreciated no matter what country you call it or even make up.

Many of us have significant others as well as live a life where our friends/families/coworkers do not know where we go. These people are not stupid :( and they would easily figure out when we decide to go to a latin country for our excursions :shock:

I think the stories about Del Rey and San Jose in general are more fun when heard from word of mouth. I personally wouldn't want to see this movie even if I had never been or known of San Jose/Costa Rica.

Business wise - unless you got Julia Roberts playing a Blue Marlin girl and Richard Gere playing a gringo monger - it has slim chance of being successful.

But that is just my opinion....... :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:53 am 
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Absolutey a bad idea to publicize in any way Costa Rica as a mongering destination. As long as the name and people are entirely fictional I don't see any problem with it. Some of us have found this little slice of heaven and we don't want that spoiled in any way.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:04 am 
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A VERY BAD IDEA.

Any story of prostitution, especially in a foreign country, is only a cheap means at exploitation and tittilation to make a buck or serve another agenda.

American men going to other countries for sex is NOT a new story and has been going on for many, many years.

A movie like this serves no one's best interests and Costa Rica is merely a blip on the big sex travel radar screen. I think, you'll find much more traffic in the Dominican Republic, Amsterdam, the Philippines or Thailand than Costa Rica.

If you really want to tell the story of how American men are going elsewhere for love and affection tell the story of the Latin introduction services and agencies. That's a real story.


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I agree with Papa Nut 100%. It would make it worse everyone else.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:06 pm 
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Witling,

With all due respect, I think your comment is a little too broad. Prostitution is part of the human condition and in fact is part of one of its biggest components sex. Authors, writers and story tellers try to examine, define and express this human condition. Without having any idea of the storyline or the author how can you say:
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Any story of prostitution, especially in a foreign country, is only a cheap means at exploitation and tittilation to make a buck or serve another agenda


Was Pretty Woman a cheap means of expoitation?. What about Risky Business with Tom Cruise?.

As long as the movie is not set in Costa-Rica I don't see any problem with it and would in fact be interested to see it. If it was set in CR I think the fallout would be disasterous. But if it's a fictional country or a fictional city in a real country that's not CR those not in the know will have no idea. I think it would actually be fun to watch it with a date here in the states and at the end say "Wow!, too bad there's not a real place like that?" or "I'm going to have to find that place."


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:34 pm 
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jsmythe,
I see your point. Of course I was referring to a story regarding prostitution along the lines outlined above.

"Pretty Woman" was an over-hyped farce. "Risky Business" was a very entertaining movie but I don't think either of these were what the original poster had in mind.

Either way I stand by my statement that this would be A VERY BAD IDEA.

And speaking of bad ideas, how is someone supposed to vote for a poll that asks "Good Idea or Bad???" and the choices are Yes or No?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:33 pm 
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There is already too much pressure on CR to crack down on all forms of prostitution. The problem is that it is legal per se, for those of age 18 and up.
So the authorities pull a raid in which they identify a foreigner who is exploiting the young chicas or there is an alleged illegal pimp. There is already international pressure to eliminate illegal underaged prostitution of which there is none or almost none. So others get caught as an example of how the country is responding to pressure. We do not need to be made examples of.
Keep publicity down to nothing please, to keep the raids away. Our member, Easy, has already spent a night in jail as a result of a related immigration raid on the Blue Marlin where legal prostitutes "have been seen".

-Ace, who is mad as hell at the sh*t.

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I agree. I think anymore attention directly to our favorite sport in costa rica would be disasterous. The world of mongering is given to privacy from your "regular" world in the states or wherever.

Also the publicity from it would get under the costa rican goverments skin...making for more raids ect.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:52 pm 
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I can understand and appreciate the desire to do a movie based on your premise however, I agree with the majority that it could do a lot of damage if San Jose, Costa Rica or any identifiable Latin American country was named. The pressure on the CR government to close down prostitution would just be increased by the publicity such a picture would generate, even if the motivation for the movie is good, the story in good taste, etc. As for attracting more 'jerks', well such publicity is bound to get a whole buch of guys who don't have a clue, searching for the location.

Even if you used Panama or DR as the Country, it might be obvious by the fact that CR doesn't have a law against prostitution, that the real location is San Jose.

A fictional country is probably the best idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:33 pm 
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no, nno , no. for allthe reasons expressed ny fellow mongers. more publ;icity l;like this will be a big negative in many ways, financial, personal, and would force dogooder response like hells fury. let it lie as it is so we can enjoy our hobby. its already getting to be not as much fun as it used to be with too many jerks (see my pevious post) coming to sjo


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