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Well, it seems to me that the reason that people want the "semi-pro" or "non-pro" girls is to get the less mercenary like experience....in other words, a GFE.

I could really care less if they are pro's or not. I personally try to find a girl who would be a good GFE, and usually I find them, and usually they are regulars in the DR.

There are a few things that help seperate the wheat from the chaffe. First, the ability to speak Spanish and communicate with them is huge. Being able to talk to them, you are able to get a true feel for what these girls are about. And I'm not just talking about the standard, "what is your name? Where are you staying? How long are you in C.R.?" But you get to joke around, talk about sex stuff, etc. Sure, there are no guarantees, but effective Spanish will greatly reduce your chances of getting a lemon. Just kind of hang out, enjoy their company and "ham it up" with them a bit.

Secondly, try to dress nice. I'm not saying wear a suit, but fashion is important in Latin America. Wearing a tank top and teva's is not considered classy down there. Maybe a nice button down short sleeve shirt and a pair of slacks. And for crying out loud, take care of your basic grooming....shave, nice cologne, etc. And don't be slobbering drunk.

Sure, at the end of the day we are still a trick to these girls....but, they are human just like the rest of us, and they will respond better to people that they feel more comfortable with. This can manifest itself in more intense sessions, longer ones, or even freebies later.

Case in point, there is a really hot one in the DR that I had been flirting with for several trips, without doing. Now, this girl is a regular at the DR on the weekends, and is all business and won't come off $100. I chatted her up for awhile, and we finally decided that we were gonna see if each other was as good as they claimed. Had a great 2 hour session, and then when we were done at my hotel (La Gran Via), I asked her if she wanted to share a cab back.....she said she preferred to walk because "I looked good next to her". In fact, she came back to my hotel in the evening before she went home, and did me again for free....and now is wanting me to take her on dates my next trip. Sure, it is still business, but these girls are still girls, and like to feel like a woman every once in a while, not just a whore.

My point is that finding a non-pro is not the only way to get the desired result of a "non-pro experience". One can greatly enhance their experience by taking care of things that they are in control of, such as conducting yourself as a gentleman, good communication skills, dressing w/ a little class, etc.

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JunFan, very good post. You and I are definitely on the same page. I like the gfe from a working girl with no strings attached. There are some really fun girls that are working the DR. You just have to be patient, talk to a lot of them, and find them. I've got one that I actually is a friend and when we go out is the ultimate gfe. And when we are done she never names a price and just depends on me to be fair with her. I could probably pay less but since she is a friend I don't try to lowball her. On an all nighter I usually give her 30,000 colones and it is worth every colone. She calls me every once in a while and vice versa. Only, we talk like friends, no pretense of anything else. She's even told me she will marry me for no money for my papers. I don't trust that easily, I would have to have some iron clad papers from my lawyer before I would do it. Looking for another regular this weekend. Hopefully there will be a few straglers on Sunday.

The idea of a non-pro or semi-pro is exciting.

Two questions:
OK, the non-pro is uncomfortable sitting in the BM. But wouldn't
she be even more uncomfortable sitting in a cafe or walking down
the street with a middle-aged gringo? If she lives and works in
San Jose, wouldn't she fear being seen by co-workers or aunt Maria?
I guess I'm asking whether it might be good to walk to the
Presidente separately, after negotiations in the BM?

Is the non-pro (making thinking of a boyfriend in addition to cash)
as interested in the older man (me with the potbelly) as with
the younger man? My assumption is that age does not make much
difference with the tica pro (my experience in Canada, U.S., and Thailand
suggests that many pros prefer the older gent).

I did read King Costa's suggestions. Very helpful.

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Simply, NO. The culture here has no problem with the age difference.
I can guarantee that is true for all classes.


YES
Remember, power is an aphrodisiac.
Money and our gringo status equate to power.
If you don't think that is true think about how many older US
politicians have got in trouble with younger women.

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Toledo Guy:

A Non Pro will not be seen in the Del Rey period. This is not a place that a Tica would go to just to have a drink. In fact, on one occassion, I was at the bar and a regular Non Pro decided to go to the BM and by chance sat next to me. As she observed what was going on after I bought her a drink she kept saying to me "this is no place for me" and left shortly. I had to respect her for that. I am sure she could have used some extra money but just was not ready for this type of life.

If a girl occassionally comes into the DR, she would be considered a semi pro. These girls can be a lot of fun because they sort of treat it as a date with a financial payoff at the end sometimes. Before I hooked up with my GF, these are the types I would seek.

It is very common to see older Latinos and Gringos with younger women in this culture. Yes, it is common to see them in Cafes and walking around the streets like anyone else. However, I would tell you that when you see a older guy walking around with a hot 20 something chica dressed sexy, it does sort of scream hooker to everyone. However, it is so common in San Jose that no one really seems to care at all.

Again, if you are in your fifties or sixties and you want a non working GF, I do think your odds are a lot better with women in their 30s to early 40s.
A lot of these women do come with Ch*ldren baggage, relatively low incomes, and a dream of a better life. If their definition of a better life is meeting a nice mature Gringo who treats them with dignity and respect and can take the financial pressure off their shoulders, why wouldn't they want this sort of relationship. Remember, in many cases, these women do come with a strong family support system that can take the Ch*ldren off their hands for extended periods of time which allows you to spend time alone with her.

To have a nice GF to spend quality time during your adventures in Costa Rica takes your adventures in Costa Rica to new levels of enjoyment and excitement.

As has been stated.....young chica old gringo..... not a problem in CR. Just before Christmas was shopping with my novia (I am 36 years her senior) not a second glance, a smirk or any kind of attitude from our fellow shoppers. We were looked upon as just another couple doing our Christmas shopping.

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Speaking as a latino (and one that has been to quite a few latin countries, hell i live in one) those stares are for two reasons and none of which have to do with age. It is very common to see older men with younger women in latin countries, heck here in PR in the country some 20 and 30 year old men marry girls as young as 15 with the families concent!

What it comes down too is race. It has become a sterotype to see gringos with latin young ladies and assume that it is not a serious relationship. In some countries gringos are seen as people with no conservative mentality who are sinners. So when they see an older gringo and a young chica they assume its prostitucion or the gringo is using her.

Also in some (not all) countries gringos are seen as a walking ATM.

These are just my two cents as someone who has seen this and heard the reactions.

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I think you right on with race rather than age. I think many of us are seen as "tourists" who will not be back, or look uncomfortable in the surroundings. I found it helpful if you act like you belong and look comfortable with the person your with.
Were all sinners , some of us just don't hide it well.

Thanks for your posts, I really take the time to read them through....usually some good stuff there for us "Norte Americanos"

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I totally agree with you that non progressive Latinos would see Gringos that way.

More progressive Latinos usually either accept an individual for his individual qualities regardless of where he comes from.

I have had experience working with Ticos and I had to earn their respect before they started to see me as something other than just another rich gringo. After they saw my work ethic and my respect for them, we enjoyed a nice working relationship and they couldn't have been any nicer to me.

I also wanted to add that part of the problem with the Gringos is that they either unintentionally or intentionally buy the relationship. I really think this is a big part of why these relationships can't last long term.

I remember meeting a 54 y.o. Gringo in the airport leaving. He found a GF through an Ad in the paper believe it or not. However, the smart thing he did was to set his GF up in a little beauty salon business with an apartment on the second floor. What he did was give her the opportunity to earn her money which gave her a lot of self respect. Sure, he gave her a helping hand up but in the end, she is fullfilled and leads a productive life when he is not in town. In my opinion, a very smart thing to do.

Sure, he could have just made her a kept woman, but, how would she really feel about herself. The guy is very wealthy but really knows how to spend his money.

I had a recent experience with another lady who has being kept my a Gringo. He literally helped turn her into a Gringa and based on what I could see, is getting tired of her. What did he really accomplish.

These women are like every human being that wants to feel productive and important and not just a piece of meat for sale.

Very smart thread. If you want to help one of the girls down here or have something permanent or whatever, I think it is a really good idea to get them going in something.

Hmmmmm, this track's direction has moved a bit....but that's cool.

Let's not confuse our motives here. I've done the "shop for a wife" thing down in Colombia a few years back. The main reason I go to San Jose is that I can go down there, enjoy the company of the beautiful women, get a tremendous amount of sex w/ very good looking women for a reasonable price, without misrepresenting my intentions to the girls, and being able to come back to my normal life here without any lingering long-term commitments and/or responsibilities to these women.

It's truly a win-win for all parties involved.

A gringo who mixes "girl-friend or wife hunting" & his gulch activities is just asking for disappointment....whether it be emotional or financial, most likely both.

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I appreciate the feedback. It feels welcoming.

When I asked about non-pros and semi-pros, I'm asking from the
perspective of a guy who just wants to have fun, spend a reasonable
amount of money, and kiss good-bye. At this stage of life, I'm not
looking for an ongoing relationship.

I really do believe in honesty. Is it possible to spend a little time
(from 2 hours to 2 days) with a non-pro without leading her on (without
implying that I'm looking for a long-term thing)? I'm guessing
this would not be a problem with the semi-pro, but how about
the non-pro who just might want a few bucks for the K*ds in
addition to being treated with respect for a little while?

I'm asking these questions as someone who knows nothing, and
knows he knows nothing. So shoot away.

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