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A few points for discussion.....

Anyone know where to get the Covid test in SJO with rapid results?

I would think leaving the USA to return is remaining the same, including not another test?

If you go for a few days and they are going to have a quarentine on arrival, why go? If you live there I understand. If visiting, is it worth it?


Thx

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It is almost as if they want to discourage travel. Go figure

BTW, I also need to travel to the US post 1/26. I have figured on a 10 day quarantine with a second test 3 to 5 days after arrival. I made sure to book a suite close to the airport, and with a kitchen (Homewood Suites by Hilton). I made sure the reservation had free cancellation. If options change, so will my plans.

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The order is still Up In The Air so to speak.

https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/bid ... 75.article



Airline lobbying groups are already starting to go after this order. I wouldn't be surprised to see some changes in the next few weeks.

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So a person visiting the states for only 7 days will do it all under quarentine? Is there a reason for the second test you have scheduled? I assume a return for a CR resident would be the same procedure as before without another test. Just health form, proof of CAJA?

It's getting complicated. Still have to get a test 72 hrs before entering the USA.

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The business travel lobby will be protesting any quarantines, then you also have the couriers of illegal substances as well

As Salty says above, things are up in the air.

My personal analysis:
The current CDC requirements are the negative test before boarding. That WILL go into effect 1/26. They also recommend a second test in the USA 3 to 5 days after return coupled with a 7 to 10 day self isolation.

Biden's executive order lays out his intent to turn the CDC recommendations into requirements. He has given his muckitty-mucks 14 days to come up with a plan that would be both effective and constitutional. Nobody knows what this will be. So, to answer your question, change is a coming.

Individual states can also specify their own requirements. That would depend on where you are going. At this time, my destination (Florida) has none.

Once you return to CR, there are no additional requirements beyond health form and caja/insurance. The Tico press report the government isn't even discussing it, but who knows what will happen.

This morning, Reuters aired a report that sources are now reporting the UK variant IS actually deadlier than the original one, it is also more harmful in younger populations, and that this variant will soon become dominate in the USA. Also, they reported that Pfizer vaccine may not be as effective against the South African variant. My personal take is that uncertainty in government, media, and science is once again on the rise. Nobody really has a handle on it and so the media will hyper-speculate. This makes me suspect that restrictions will increase, not decrease. Chances if a second lockdown are increasing.

I have made sure that ALL of my plans (testing, flight, 2nd test, hotel) can be changed or canceled without penalty. I will continue to monitor as my departure date approaches. If I did not have strong business reasons to return, I would not go. Not out of health concerns, I have them whether I stay or go. I expect another global travel clusterfuck.

Catering to tourists or returning citizens will not be a prime focus of the US government. Hopefully, that will leave enough gaps for us to do what we need to do.

In the end, biology and evolution laugh at the plans of men.

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Or, an older saying, Man plans, and God laughs.”

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Or put another way :

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My questions is, after one arrives back in the U.S of A, whos going to enforce the quarantine. ??
what are they going to do ,, visit your abode every day , put an ankle monitor on you.. again whos going to do it the local police?? US marshals? Health department?
I agree the lobbying the travel industry just geared up.
Thank God I live in Florida...

"When the government can take away your rights during an emergency, the government will create emergencies to take away your rights."
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This will be passed off to the individual states to determine and in some cases could even end up at the local level. Page 9 of this document discusses the challenges around quarantines and who has legal authority.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33201.pdf

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to answer that question, SL and Castillo are planning to have the test available to take for a fee.

Looking forward to any updated info on this.

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Lab Echandi, more than 20 locations
Labin, more than 30 locations
Lab Paez, multiple locations
Lab San Jose, multiple Locations
Hostipal CIMA, in Escazu
Hospital Clinical Biblica, downtown San Jose and Santa Ana
Hospital Metropolitano, in San Jose and Santa Ana
Hospital La Católica, Goicoechea
https://qcostarica.com/130-laboratories ... osta-rica/
The QCostaRica article contains a link to an ICT page that lists the individual locations and their phone number. The link would not paste here. I plan on using Clinica Biblica.

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Thanks, I had seen this link before. Do you have info on who can do it with quick turnover results? Reason being if something negative happens one has to cancel air and hotel. Also if leaving at the beginning of the week, there is that weekend only when the test must be taken.

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I think this paints the picture of what is different in the USA versus a lot of other countries. In other places I think that more people don't ask the question of "who's going to enforce it", but they see it as something everyone needs to do to deal with the pandemic. More like a patriotic duty of care to your fellow citizens, and to yourself.

But, having said that, other countries have more ways of enforcing it than appears to be the case in the USA. In Canada it falls under a federal quarantine act, and is enforceable with maximum penalties of up to 200,000 dollar fine and jail time.