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Author:  PacoLoco [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Dear Astro
Dear Astro,
I have an amigo that insists on trying normal relationships with DR chicas, (it is fun to watch). He was saying how they are opposite normal girls as they can have sex with no emotion. His novia will screw him silly but shows no affection/love at all which is something he really wants.
I told him they have that ability, to seperate sex from emotion and one thing I observed is the chicas seem to get/share much affection with their family. For example I always see chicas holding hands, arm in arm with their sisters, madres, etc. walking down Ave. Central.
Am I right in thinking they get their emotional needs met from their families?
What is your take on the chica separation of sex and love/emotion/affection.
Author:  Astroglide [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:23 pm ]
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PacoLoco wonders:
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For example I always see chicas holding hands, arm in arm with their sisters, madres, etc. walking down Ave. Central.
Am I right in thinking they get their emotional needs met from their families?
What is your take on the chica separation of sex and love/emotion/affection.


I am so glad you asked this question, because many mongers wonder about this. If you remember my earlier response, I explained how ticas are raised and how they are taught to use sex. They learn from an early age that ticos are assholes and really only interested in their pussies. They learn to use their pu*sy as a magnetic device, solely to get what they want. The sexual encounter with a typical tico male (Mente our hermano excluded) is short lived with little or no emotion. The tico teaches the ticas that they exist for one purpose, to use their pussies to please him. They learn that it is their ultimate bargaining chip. It is why the Costa Rican culture adapts to prostitution so easily. There is not much difference with what I described above, and what they do at the Del Rey.

But the ticas ARE very emotional creatures. They just don't get it from males. The emotion they get from a tico is a momentary grunting noise at the end of the climax. The emotion they get from other females is the opposite and very meaningful. While most ticas have NO father in the house, the mother is VERY tight with her Ch*ldren. The whole family revolves around the mother. Many of them have large families, and the ticas learn to look out for each other. Many of the ticas grow up in poor barrios, on top of one another. The friendships that grow between the ticas take on an extremely important emotional bonding experience. They become very tightly bonded with their tica girlfriends, and sisters.

They learn to count on each other, not on the tico males. They tell stories about the tico males, and how bad they are. Many of them do not want tico novios. They find them untrustworthy, mean and abusive. They lean on each other for support. When they walk down the street, they walk arm in arm as a show of support and bonding.

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His novia will screw him silly but shows no affection/love at all which is something he really wants.


This is easy to explain. They do not trust him, and have no emotional bond with him. They know he is a one night wonder...or maybe two. They screw several gringos a night....and one more gringo is not going to provide the emotional bond they crave. They get that closer to home, with their families, sisters, and amigas. If you REALLY want to get inside a ticas head....get to know the people close to her. Become a part of her circle of friends. Go to her house, meet her family. Understand how they live and how she has been raised. You will get a great deal of insight into the tica mentality, which is completely foreign to most gringos...and different than the spoiled overly indulged gringas we leave behind on that jet plane to Costa Rica. Thank GOD for the ticas.
Author:  PacoLoco [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:42 pm ]
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Thanks for the quick response, looks like my observations were correct. Your point on the home without a father reminds me of a statement in the LTR-Marriage thread, someone posted that Ticas consider a man in the home nothing but a disruption. He is usually not welcome if he is there, my amigo certainly experienced this with novia #1, (even though he paid the phucking rent!)

Astroglide wrote:
Many of them do not want tico novios.


I have been told this by no less than a couple dozen chicas. I like to talk to them about their lives and usually always ask if they've been married, have a novio, and if they want a Tico novio. I'm not sure if it's true but every one answers the same way Astro- shaking their head NO with a disgusted look on their face. Many have flat out told me they do not like Tico guys for the above things you mentioned, interesting.
Author:  Rolex [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:14 am ]
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... But are they able to discriminate between Tico guys vs. guys in general (I.E., Gringo Men)?
Author:  King Costa [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Dear Astro
Paco...

Here we go again with a Gringo trying to get a "normal" GF relationship with a working girl. He can't get an emotional response for her because she is actually doing him a favor by sending him a message that she is screwing him because this is how she makes her living. Unfortunately, your friend just doesn't want to accept this.

In a way, she is actually being honest with him and what she means to him.

Please everyone, don't make the mistake of lumping regular ticas with the DR chicas. Apples and Oranges
Author:  Rolex [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:35 am ]
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I don't know if you response was directed at me or him.

Regardless, thank you for pointing out the differentiation. My question was in regard to regular Ticas. Not working girls.
Author:  Osgood [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:47 am ]
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also the girl's, like astro our resident shrink say's, have been dumped in love numerous time's,come from a one -parent (MADRE) home,don't see shrink's,have alcoholic and abusive father's and then you wonder after she make's you feel like a king for $$$$$$,Why.....She's emotionally distant........it's survival of the mind for her and deep down they hate men............
Author:  King Costa [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Dear Astro
Hey Tex:

One of the biggest problems Gringos have in the eyes of most Ticas is the issue of money and our very high standard of living. Most Ticas have to be very frugal, they don't own a car, they don't have much money in the bank and live day to day on a meager salary. A lot of the Gringos have cars, plenty of money to travel to CR, own computers etc.

Therefore, if they can latch on to a wealthy gringo, their live style can take a major turn to the better. Guys that won't think twice about taking them on a shopping spree and spending $500 in the blink of an eye.

The issue is does she like you for your money or does she like you for your money and you. My GF is very emotionally invested in me and I can't speak about all the others.

One thing I am doing for her is helping her financially by having her help me with my business interests in Costa Rica. I think this is an excellant idea because it makes her feel good about herself and provides a potential positive change in her future by allowing her to earn the money herself. In other words, I am showing her how to take advantage of the business opportunities in CR doing business with Gringos.

My business interests are thriving in CR because I provide a product that Gringo use and are willing to pay Gringo prices.

My message here is that you have to be very careful how you approach a relationship with Ticas because it is easy to be taken for just a Suger Daddy with lots of cash. One more word of advice. Do not overindulge these Chicas. This totally distorts how they perceive you and once you spoil them you can't go back.

I do treat my GF very well but I do not overindulge her with gifts and money. It would rather have her like me for who I am and not just what I can provide for her.

Peace

King
Author:  Lee [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  You need a hobby.
Pacoloco:
You're a man in need of a hobby. Get one that does not involve a keyboard.
Lee
Author:  PacoLoco [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dear Astro
King Costa wrote:
...she is actually doing him a favor by sending him a message that she is screwing him because this is how she makes her living. Unfortunately, your friend just doesn't want to accept this.

You hit the nail on the head KC, in spite of advice from me and more experienced members he has chosen to bang his head against the brick wall. Like I said, it is interesting to watch. If we move it to the VIP forum I'll provide some updates and details.
What ever happened to your amigo- Marriage monger? Did he tie the knot, wasn't the bride a DR chica?

Osgood wrote:
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...deep down they hate men

Wait, we're talking about Ticas, not Gringas right? :wink:

And Lee,
your LAL-guy response has been noted, we know you guys could give a rat's ass about all this. Human behavior just interests me, besides- knowledge is power.
I don't need a keyboard for my favorite hobby- just to talk about my favorite hobby. :twisted:
Author:  Dapanz1 [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:00 pm ]
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Man could I add alot to this thread. Let's just say KC's post is damn good. Although, I must add this...if your chica is/was a Del Rey chica her perception of us is already distorted in many ways. Particularly in the arena of finances. It has been stated on this board many times that all the girls see of you at first is your ability to come to CR, have a great time and spend tons of money. (Unless your name is RBC). Some of the girls think that money just grows on trees here and all we have to do is go and pick it. I've had to recite the "no tengo dinero" speech so many times I know it by heart.

dapanz1
Author:  PacoLoco [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:14 pm ]
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Please do Dapanz1,
how is your relationship going? (like I said we can move it to the VIP forum and speak more openly in there.)
your input would be helpful, this type of info will save some poor gringo a lot of dinero and heartache...
Author:  Jaggededge [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:38 pm ]
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Astroglide wrote:
They do not trust him, and have no emotional bond with him. They know he is a one night wonder...or maybe two. They screw several gringos a night....and one more gringo is not going to provide the emotional bond they crave.


Astro,
I know this is the norm................But ... You know how believable some of these girls can be.
I've been e-mailing a girl I met there last time; it was her 3rd day in CR and first in the DR. I got to break her in so to speak. She seems to have a little bit of a bond with me (or is it my perception).

Although she has been telling me how she’s not making much money she has not asked me for a dime. Only for me to return soon. She also wants me to stay at her apartment when I come down. She tells me I am her only boyfriend and how much she cares about me .

To be sure , I will never send money, or purchase expensive gifts, but it’s easy to wonder If you actually could have a special relationship with a working girl. especialy one that may not be so hardened yet.

I welcome your opinions and also that of King Costa
Paco, Latino Heat and Hand-solo ...cut me a break !!
Author:  PacoLoco [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:59 pm ]
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Jaggededge wrote:
I've been e-mailing a girl.. it was her 3rd day in CR and first in the DR. I got to break her in so to speak. She seems to have a little bit of a bond with me (or is it my perception).

She also wants me to stay at her apartment when I come down. She tells me I am her only boyfriend and how much she cares about me .

.. especialy one that may not be so hardened yet.


I've been through this exact scenario with a couple different ones Jag. And I was shocked at how much one had changed in a couple months, from an innocent sweet chica to a lying money obsessed puta. Astro watched Cristal go through the same transformation, but I think it took a little longer.
I met your chica, she was very cool. She may still be for real, and it may be bullshit she's telling you, or a little of both- but irregardless she will be ruined very quickly working in the DR.
Just be warned and keep your expectations in reality. Be ready for her to hit you up for more money than before, or blow you off to go up the elevator with another gringo if things aren't what you expected. Or she may play the game well and want to spend all her time with you while you're there, but it's still a GFFE!
Author:  Jaggededge [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:12 pm ]
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PacoLoco wrote:
[She may still be for real, and it may be bullshit she's telling you, or a little of both- but irregardless she will be ruined very quickly working in the DR.
Just be warned and keep your expectations in reality


Sorry to say.......your probably right. I can keep things in perspective and like you , I would have no problem cutting the cord if necessary.

It does make me wonder , what would have happened if I had yanked her out of the DR on the 1st day and made her a non-working girl.
( I don't have enought $$$$ for that )

Thanks for going easy on me !
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