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Author: | Fiedler [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Beware again |
Im no rookie , 11 years in CR on and off, But I have to say tonight's chica was the worst. Still kicking my self, it statred out her amigo wanted $ 20 for taxi from del rey to Vinda Lista then she wants money up front So I put it aside, Then she starts crying because I look like her father or some other BS, Then she wants another 100 to take her clothes off ! at this point yes im drunk but many CRT alarms are going off, Im glad to have read so many posts yet frikin stupid to still fail. No more drama , I kicked her out the door, she took a beer with her. DRAMA! I guess Im still learning ? I was at the rey because the few chicas that were at the SL were all wanting $ 150-200, same at the Rey, new to me used to be able to go for $ 80 PS I have a great Tica wife and she lets me play BUT she is right about crazy Drama queens, at the Rey or I get robbed, Better I let her bring her tica freinds oner to play. Fiedler, |
Author: | Chilimike [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
Trying to understand this....you live in san jose....you have a tico wife.... ( guessing u speak Spanish) , girls at sportmens are asking "you" for 150 to 200 .....? My question ,do you not share with these girls that you live there and the other info .....these girls should be asking you for max 50 ....something must be wrong in your opening negotiations ...sounds like you must be coming off as a newbe to these girls |
Author: | BangBang57 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
I have to agree with Chilimike! I have never been asked for more than "cien" and even then they will say something like "Well I normally ask for "cien" but since you live here I will go with you for $$. If they are not willing to go for less, they will almost ALWAYS just walk away as soon as I say "I live here" The minute she mentioned her "Taxi" friend is the minute you should have "walked"! Always a sure fired rip-off!! If she even mentions wanting the money up front-out the door, no negotiation- out the door!!!! Crying "because you look like her father ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I just am having trouble understanding how an experienced guy (to SJ and mongering) could have got even to the point of a possible session with this chica without telling her to get lost!!!! Sorry! |
Author: | BlueDevil [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
Wow... times have changed in the gulch! I've come across several girls like that, but not asking for that kind of money! What do they think we are... stupid? (Don't answer that question ![]() Quote: PS I have a great Tica wife and she lets me play BUT she is right about crazy Drama queens, at the Rey or I get robbed, Better I let her bring her tica freinds oner to play. FWIW, I would be careful with this one. Maybe your wife means well, but this could easily end up in disaster. It's better you meet your own circle of amiguitas... and don't bring them home... take them to a motel. |
Author: | Scuba1 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
Fiedler wrote: Im no rookie , 11 years in CR on and off, But I have to say tonight's chica was the worst. Still kicking my self, it statred out her amigo wanted $ 20 for taxi from del rey to Vinda Lista then she wants money up front So I put it aside, Then she starts crying because I look like her father or some other BS, Then she wants another 100 to take her clothes off ! at this point yes im drunk but many CRT alarms are going off, Im glad to have read so many posts yet frikin stupid to still fail. No more drama , I kicked her out the door, she took a beer with her. DRAMA! I guess Im still learning ? I was at the rey because the few chicas that were at the SL were all wanting $ 150-200, same at the Rey, new to me used to be able to go for $ 80 PS I have a great Tica wife and she lets me play BUT she is right about crazy Drama queens, at the Rey or I get robbed, Better I let her bring her tica freinds oner to play. Fiedler, You can still get the vast majority for $80 - what they ask and what they get.....2 often different things. Now, <believe it or not ![]() Even for a newbi (which I know you are not), c'mon ![]() ![]() ![]() As to you looking like her father - your response should have been "I only hope you Phuck and suck me half as well as you do/did him" Seriously - what a downer - I don't know the girl and already I'm thinking this is not gonna work for me. Then she wants more money????? I will not comment of paying her up front - for those questioning the wisdom - great reason not to in this story. Look, I posted that we all make mistakes, and it takes some balls to post what you did, b/c it does not put you in a particularly favorable light - and you know better - plus you had a bunch of triggers that reinforced it. I suspect drinking might have played a bigger role. I'll give you my final take on this: Anyone - especially if you are drunk or high - can make a mistake (not that that excuses it - don't drink so much) - no one got hurt or robbed or arrested; you are out a little money; call it a tax for being dopey. While you had triggers big enough to hit you over the head - when you get that gut feel - or something just does not feel right - ESPECIALLY WITH SOME RANDOM GIRL YOU MEET IN THE HDR ![]() ![]() ![]() Put it behind you - everything in life is a learning experience - I appreciate you posting although I'm sorry the whole thing happened to you ![]() |
Author: | 59Vette [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
I am sorry you are having that much problem dealing with the chicas. I pull girls out of the sportsman for $40 all day long. $60-80 for newbies is no problem. Just did not want you guys to get discouraged over pricing. I usually buy the girl I am interested in a drink but only after we have chatted a few minutes. If they ask for a drink it's normally not a good sign. When I negotiate I never really have to ask how long she will stay. Somewhere in the conversation they will tell you their time available. Most chicas I pull will stay for hours. Even some at sportsmen just like to hang out. I tell them to get back to work when a guy walks by. I have the advantage of coming to Costa Rica many times. They know some time or other that I will pull them if things are right. I suggest you spend your money On the providers known to be good. Like Luna or Katherine. There are others. They will not overcharge you. yes all girls ask for Cien or more. Step your game up. Send me a private message I am in town. We can meet up . I would be happy to give some pointers. Having a wingman can help your game. Especially if the chicas know him. |
Author: | BangBang57 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
[quote,"Scuba1"] Even for a newbi (which I know you are not), c'mon ![]() ![]() ![]() [/quote] My friend I think you miss read an "o" as being an "a"! He (I think I am right) was referring to a male taxi driver friend of hers who wanted $20 for a $5 taxi ride. That's $10 for the taxista and $10 more for her ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | BashfulDwarf [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
BangBang57 wrote: ...If she even mentions wanting the money up front-out the door, no negotiation- out the door!!!! This is the only 'veteran' advice that I would like to comment on here ... the rest in the thread I am agreeable. As to the main point of "Do not pay in advance", we all agree. But!! If you are not a local (or ex-pat that is known to the chica community), then you should expect a chica new to you to ask for the money up front. To fly off the handle at this request and kick her out of the room is silly. I display the money on a shelf or table, and so far that has been satisfactory to every chica that has asked. If it isn't good enough, then I say to follow the veteran advice and tell her to leave. Expect the request. It is a part of " the new " ... just like MP "extras" ... |
Author: | Scuba1 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
BangBang57 wrote: [quote,"Scuba1"] Even for a newbi (which I know you are not), c'mon ![]() ![]() ![]() My friend I think you miss read an "o" as being an "a"! He (I think I am right) was referring to a male taxi driver friend of hers who wanted $20 for a $5 taxi ride. That's $10 for the taxista and $10 more for her ![]() ![]() ![]() Hey....my comment still applies ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | BangBang57 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
I did not make myself totally clear on the point of paying up front. That issue when dealing with a new (to you or you to her) chica should ALWAYS be dealt with during the negotiation process. If she seems hesitant explain to her that you will show her the money and place it in a spot where she can see it but you will not give it to her "up front"! If she will not agree to this at that point then it is time to walk away - before getting to your room. For those that do not believe in negotiating (very stupid IMHO) you will just have to accept what you get (and deserve)!! The day of the naive poor little unknowing chica is long gone! The day of the guy being in charge is long gone unless you have the experience and balls to know when to say NO and walk away, whether it be a female in the States or here in Costa Rica. They all know all the games especially the ones that seem to always work on Gringos and especially newbies. Unless you are willing to throw your money away on a crap session you had better be willing to negotiate even the smallest points that are of concern to you. As for the argument that negotiating takes away from the romantic aspect, 2 things come to mind!!! 1: My God, you are paying for sex, not romancing for a future wife (hopefully)! It is a business deal and I guarantee that is ALL IT IS TO HER, no matter what she might be able to make you believe!! Reminds me of a certain chica who was very popular a year or so ago! Many guys just raved about her and how romantic she was and how she was in love with them, or at least really liked having sex with them! She had the ability to make every guy feel like he was special to her!! Truth is this chica could not even touch a Gringo without being stoned!!!!! If you just have to have romance go find a "regular girl, not a puta that only wants to get your money and get the hell out!!! Most of these chicas are such good actresses they could easily win an academy award if they were in Hollywood!! 2: Use your big head instead of the little one and with just a little common sense and by using the right words you can negotiate everything you want without it taking away from "the moment"! Waiting till you get to the room to find out she "won't do this or that, that she wants the money up from, that she really does not like this or that" is a sure bet that if you have any balls you will probably kick her out or certainly wish you had of after the session. Waiting and not negotiating before hand just tells her you are either clueless and/or that she totally has the upper hand. At that point she totally feels she had you by the balls (she usually does!!) Just the opinions of a senile old fart!!!! I could care less whether anyone agrees with me or not, but wait till you have 52 years of experience in this thing we call MONGERING to tell me I am crazy. Anyone that lasts that long in this hobby I bet money will agree with me at that point! |
Author: | BashfulDwarf [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
BangBang57 wrote: ... but wait till you have 52 years of experience in this thing we call MONGERING to tell me I am crazy. . I've got just slightly more than that in dog years, methinks. Or maybe goldfish years. ![]() I don't think there's any real benefit to discussing the 'payment after' topic. They know the score, and they'll try to bend it to their advantage. Mentioning in negotiations that you will pay afterwards serves no purpose other than to potentially confuse them (if your Spanish is bad) or just forewarn the sharks to work an angle when you get to the room. As I think back to my sessions, I am realizing that my pattern (or habit) is to lay the cash on the table in a blatant display, even if she hasn't asked me. I've never been hustled, hassled or otherwise chica-handled by any of my pulls, so I could say that the technique works for me. YMMV. Oh, and it's not just about the money. My chicas are different. ![]() |
Author: | Santas Bro [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
My last visit to CR, a couple of weeks ago, I had approximately 12 sessions. The only time I paid in advance, or was asked, was at Scores. Out of the 12 I had only one that was ordinary (which I term as O.K.), about 5 were very good, and the rest were exceptional. Not one of the ladies outside the MP ever asked for money up front. I did set the amount up front though. My Spanish sucks, and I still had several GFE type experiences. Fortunately, sex needs not be verbalized, it is universal. Touch a lady, how, where, when she desires it, and all else will fall in to place, with no verbalization necessary. A woman screams in Spanish is exactly the same as English. ![]() I only have 48 years of mongering, which has little to do with whether I can please a lady or not. With that said, listen to my amigo BB57 he offers excellent advice. Health & happiness...... |
Author: | Netgems [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
BashfulDwarf wrote: BangBang57 wrote: ... but wait till you have 52 years of experience in this thing we call MONGERING to tell me I am crazy. . I've got just slightly more than that in dog years, methinks. Or maybe goldfish years. ![]() I don't think there's any real benefit to discussing the 'payment after' topic. They know the score, and they'll try to bend it to their advantage. Mentioning in negotiations that you will pay afterwards serves no purpose other than to potentially confuse them (if your Spanish is bad) or just forewarn the sharks to work an angle when you get to the room. As I think back to my sessions, I am realizing that my pattern (or habit) is to lay the cash on the table in a blatant display, even if she hasn't asked me. I've never been hustled, hassled or otherwise chica-handled by any of my pulls, so I could say that the technique works for me. YMMV. Oh, and it's not just about the money. My chicas are different. ![]() Yes, the ones you've met in the park are quite quite different..... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Netgems [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
Most everyone has adroitly handled this issue with excellent and poignant advice so no need for me to repeat, and I wish I could deliver an experienced old pro admonishment, but as an 11 year veteran I can unembarrassingly ![]() ![]() ![]() To add insult to injury, I would sometimes then try to negotiate with her without confronting her and letting her know I knew she was lying..I thought I could outwit and outmaneuver these 20 something third world uneducated females with what I perceived to be my highly skilled honed over decades business negotiation acumen... ![]() ![]() Most of the time I got burned, and sometimes worse, sometimes perversely happy I got the little I got..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The best one that got me was this mind boggling 18 year old who used to work at the ancient New York Bar. She was a bartender, not a working girl. She was angelic, ethereal, radiant, perfect and always talked to me when I came in and spent time with me away from other patrons, she even asked me to give her a massage at the bar once. I was hooked, and one night one of my buddies was there and called me, he said she is asking him to call me so she can ask me on a date and could I get there when she gets off work? I was there in 1/2 an hour and after our normal flirting, as she was getting off work and I was excited about a real date, she tells me her aunt has to chaperon the first date, a Costa Rica ''custom" for young girls. It was a good first punch and I should have known better right then and there but my dream of her was too overwhelming and besides, I knew her aunt, she worked at the new York Bar too, and I always talked and joked with her as well, so.....somehow I at that moment realize this is not going to end well but I keep going, my brain and whatever is left of my rational intellect is clouded like the fools who perish climbing Mt. Everest... ![]() ![]() Most of you old timers already know what happened without me even having to tell it, we ended up at an expensive restaurant, they both ordered expensive dinners, I scored a kiss on the cheek from each one and away they went. ![]() The story doesn't end there. When I do stupid, I don't treat it lightly. I continued to talk with her and continued to try to get her to go on a date with me alone. She kept refusing, saying that is the Tica custom. ![]() One day she had a job interview in the Sabana business office area that she knew I worked in. She said she could meet me at a restaurant (expensive one, of course) close to my company around the time I get off work. Ahh, like the moth waiting patiently to get burned by the lightbulb when it's turned on, I jumped. ![]() ![]() Well we had a great conversation, great dinner, for 18 she was highly intelligent, spoke decent English and surprisingly quite sophisticated for her youth. I asked her to come to my nearby lair, hinting if she was interviewing for a better job because she needed more money all she had to do was ask, I can help her out. (Remember she is not a working girl but I'm thinking it's needed to close the deal). She laughs at me and says "$200"! I normally would refuse to pay that in Costa Rica, even to a top 10 who agrees with everything I want. I've paid $100, even $120 to one of my favorites but that was for a guaranteed mind boggling 3 hours. That would be my max. Not this time. I was infatuated with this one, we "clicked" we communicated with each other, we "knew" each other intimately I convinced myself, I was almost now obsessed with her, oh what the hell, I WAS infatuated with her and blurted out "OK"!!! I, at that moment was stark raving mad, $200 was irrelevant, I HAD to have this one!!! ![]() ![]() She looked at me in shock and said "You crazy" and asked me to sit with her and wait with her to catch her bus. In my final moment of dimwitted Don Quixote gallantry, I hailed a cab and handed her $10, I asked once again before helping her into the cab; "Are you sure you have to go? We can get together another time if now's not good. What are the chances we can get together another time??? ![]() She just laughed, said "you crazy" and shut the door. I found out later she had done similar things with different American suckers like me, even taking one clown downtown and having him buy her tons of clothes, I actually met him later and he confessed he got no poon from her either.... I also found out the aunt told her about me and told her I was infatuated with her and could be another easy dinner...auntie would also be compensated if the chump spent additional dollars beyond the initial sucker dinner intro... I invite any fellow member who has similar or funnier confessions of being stung to tell us the particulars, I suspect many are quite amusing... And Fiedler, I'd like to armchair quarterback how you should have dealt with this situation...but those that are not without sin cannot cast the first stone..... ![]() ![]() ![]() At least you didn't pay UPFRONT and when BS was starting to be thrown you didn't pay at all, sounds like in the end you handled it well.... ![]() ![]() ![]() Seems like this particular chica was just a bad egg who attempts to pull sh*t if she thinks her victim is drunk, |
Author: | Chilimike [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Beware again |
Thanks for sharing that true story....trust me as I have been had by non working girls....why do I need to go after the non working girl when I have 75 working girls around me....case in point ...5 to 6 years ago there is this hot sweet dealer at the delrey ,,,, still working there....anyway on this trip I am over the hustle of working girls....this trip this dealer is being flirty with me and giving me the signs that she is interested....I ask her if she like to get something to eat after her shift ....she says yeah that will be fun , but I dont get off until 6am ....I say cool I will wait ( its around 1230 am at this time) I play at her table , fighting over hooker after hooker ( trying to show her I am waiting for her ...such the fool I am ![]() I check in with her a few times over the next 5 hours ...double checking if we are still on....she says yes Its now about 545 am ....she smiles at me as she heads to the back , me guessing she is clocking out , getting her jacket ,,, I am keeping things on the down low as I am expecting her to roll by me and we meet outside.... 6am , 615 , 630 dont see her..... reality sets in ....she has played me for a fool .....next day she wont even look at me ....I just say ....why play me just say ,,,, beat it gringo I can handle that better then her bull shit .....but no explanation Last trip she starts her flirting again with me..,, I look at her and say ....no thanks ..you wont get me twice |
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