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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:05 pm 
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I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, and thought I should wait until I got home to write it, but I just felt like something needed to be said, and so feel free to flame me as you will. I just feel that complacency has taken over and things need to be said.

Although I don't always post that much now I've been on here for quite some time, have taken away great advice and knowledge from the collected expertise here, and I hope I've given some back as well (although some might argue that the contribution of the ball-shaving thread was a negative contribution. lol. My evil self continues to enjoy it). It's always been one of my favorite and I think best run boards.

When I started here everyone was eager to explore, to share new information with other, and to really round out the hobby with a bunch of great and current information on a variety of different things outside the hobby as well. These days I find that the traffic is down, what traffic there is is relegated to a kind of collective tunnel vision about a few subjects and places that get beaten to death, and that the most knowledgeble people don't share what they know.

Twice this week when I was in the SL having a drink the discussion came up about the people that were hanging out at the hotel and about the membership of the board. They were pretty negative discussions which I had to agree with in a number of aspects. In the past the members of the CRT seemed to have a community desire to seek and share information with each other. The general consensus was that very little useful information got shared now because people were the afraid that the idiots would abuse it and pollute the well for everyone else. Well, there is certinly a risk to that, but there always has been. I guess the general view is that there's more idiots now then there used to be. I'm not sure I believe that, but the expertise level has certainly gone way down, and so has the quaity of information here.

In the past, once again being a member of CRT was about sharing information and also in sharing in the benefits of that information, and membership, by obtaining discounts from sponsors. How many of those sponsors are no longer a topic of conversation here? Or don't always respect the existing agreement? or have gone by the wayside? I truly don't know the answer to that myself, but I do know that two CRT card carrying members I met last week thought CRT membership meant having a discount card for Sportsmens. They had no clue about anything else. sigh.

It's a gentlemen's board, in theory, and I'd just like to see us all being a bit more open wih each other, sharing more, going back to exploring and reveling in fnding new places and girls, and in general being a little less laser-focused on a small handful of locales in the gulch. This board used to be so much more. Of course, that required help from the membership. I fully expect that this little commentary of mine will fall on deaf ears, except for the flamers who I'm sure I'll hear from shortly, but I woud really like to see the level of this board raised again, and I thought that for my own peace of ind that I needed and wanted to say something. Hope you guys will help.

best regards to all,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:15 pm 
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Well, Im a recent arrival to this board but the reason I joined was two fold: a) the information, advice, camaraderie of the board members, b) discounts.

As regards to the former, I haven't been around to know there has been a decline in traffic or that the posts are limited to only a few locales. But for what it's worth, I appreciate the serious postings and continued information provided.

Shadowman, you will never get rid of the immaturity of some people. Don't let it bother you. Keep posting, keep being a part of the community.

That is all.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm 
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Shadowman wrote:
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, and thought I should wait until I got home to write it, but I just felt like something needed to be said, and so feel free to flame me as you will. I just feel that complacency has taken over and things need to be said.

Although I don't always post that much now I've been on here for quite some time, have taken away great advice and knowledge from the collected expertise here, and I hope I've given some back as well (although some might argue that the contribution of the ball-shaving thread was a negative contribution. lol. My evil self continues to enjoy it). It's always been one of my favorite and I think best run boards.

When I started here everyone was eager to explore, to share new information with other, and to really round out the hobby with a bunch of great and current information on a variety of different things outside the hobby as well. These days I find that the traffic is down, what traffic there is is relegated to a kind of collective tunnel vision about a few subjects and places that get beaten to death, and that the most knowledgeble people don't share what they know.

Twice this week when I was in the SL having a drink the discussion came up about the people that were hanging out at the hotel and about the membership of the board. They were pretty negative discussions which I had to agree with in a number of aspects. In the past the members of the CRT seemed to have a community desire to seek and share information with each other. The general consensus was that very little useful information got shared now because people were the afraid that the idiots would abuse it and pollute the well for everyone else. Well, there is certinly a risk to that, but there always has been. I guess the general view is that there's more idiots now then there used to be. I'm not sure I believe that, but the expertise level has certainly gone way down, and so has the quaity of information here.

In the past, once again being a member of CRT was about sharing information and also in sharing in the benefits of that information, and membership, by obtaining discounts from sponsors. How many of those sponsors are no longer a topic of conversation here? Or don't always respect the existing agreement? or have gone by the wayside? I truly don't know the answer to that myself, but I do know that two CRT card carrying members I met last week thought CRT membership meant having a discount card for Sportsmens. They had no clue about anything else. sigh.

It's a gentlemen's board, in theory, and I'd just like to see us all being a bit more open wih each other, sharing more, going back to exploring and reveling in fnding new places and girls, and in general being a little less laser-focused on a small handful of locales in the gulch. This board used to be so much more. Of course, that required help from the membership. I fully expect that this little commentary of mine will fall on deaf ears, except for the flamers who I'm sure I'll hear from shortly, but I woud really like to see the level of this board raised again, and I thought that for my own peace of ind that I needed and wanted to say something. Hope you guys will help.

best regards to all,

shadow



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:42 pm 
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Shadowman wrote:
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, and thought I should wait until I got home to write it, but I just felt like something needed to be said, and so feel free to flame me as you will. I just feel that complacency has taken over and things need to be said.

Although I don't always post that much now I've been on here for quite some time, have taken away great advice and knowledge from the collected expertise here, and I hope I've given some back as well (although some might argue that the contribution of the ball-shaving thread was a negative contribution. lol. My evil self continues to enjoy it). It's always been one of my favorite and I think best run boards.

When I started here everyone was eager to explore, to share new information with other, and to really round out the hobby with a bunch of great and current information on a variety of different things outside the hobby as well. These days I find that the traffic is down, what traffic there is is relegated to a kind of collective tunnel vision about a few subjects and places that get beaten to death, and that the most knowledgeble people don't share what they know.

Twice this week when I was in the SL having a drink the discussion came up about the people that were hanging out at the hotel and about the membership of the board. They were pretty negative discussions which I had to agree with in a number of aspects. In the past the members of the CRT seemed to have a community desire to seek and share information with each other. The general consensus was that very little useful information got shared now because people were the afraid that the idiots would abuse it and pollute the well for everyone else. Well, there is certinly a risk to that, but there always has been. I guess the general view is that there's more idiots now then there used to be. I'm not sure I believe that, but the expertise level has certainly gone way down, and so has the quaity of information here.

In the past, once again being a member of CRT was about sharing information and also in sharing in the benefits of that information, and membership, by obtaining discounts from sponsors. How many of those sponsors are no longer a topic of conversation here? Or don't always respect the existing agreement? or have gone by the wayside? I truly don't know the answer to that myself, but I do know that two CRT card carrying members I met last week thought CRT membership meant having a discount card for Sportsmens. They had no clue about anything else. sigh.

It's a gentlemen's board, in theory, and I'd just like to see us all being a bit more open wih each other, sharing more, going back to exploring and reveling in fnding new places and girls, and in general being a little less laser-focused on a small handful of locales in the gulch. This board used to be so much more. Of course, that required help from the membership. I fully expect that this little commentary of mine will fall on deaf ears, except for the flamers who I'm sure I'll hear from shortly, but I woud really like to see the level of this board raised again, and I thought that for my own peace of ind that I needed and wanted to say something. Hope you guys will help.

best regards to all,

shadow



I couldn't agree more!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:30 pm 
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Shadowman wrote:
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, and thought I should wait until I got home to write it, but I just felt like something needed to be said, and so feel free to flame me as you will. I just feel that complacency has taken over and things need to be said.

Although I don't always post that much now I've been on here for quite some time, have taken away great advice and knowledge from the collected expertise here, and I hope I've given some back as well (although some might argue that the contribution of the ball-shaving thread was a negative contribution. lol. My evil self continues to enjoy it). It's always been one of my favorite and I think best run boards.

When I started here everyone was eager to explore, to share new information with other, and to really round out the hobby with a bunch of great and current information on a variety of different things outside the hobby as well. These days I find that the traffic is down, what traffic there is is relegated to a kind of collective tunnel vision about a few subjects and places that get beaten to death, and that the most knowledgeble people don't share what they know.

Twice this week when I was in the SL having a drink the discussion came up about the people that were hanging out at the hotel and about the membership of the board. They were pretty negative discussions which I had to agree with in a number of aspects. In the past the members of the CRT seemed to have a community desire to seek and share information with each other. The general consensus was that very little useful information got shared now because people were the afraid that the idiots would abuse it and pollute the well for everyone else. Well, there is certinly a risk to that, but there always has been. I guess the general view is that there's more idiots now then there used to be. I'm not sure I believe that, but the expertise level has certainly gone way down, and so has the quaity of information here.

In the past, once again being a member of CRT was about sharing information and also in sharing in the benefits of that information, and membership, by obtaining discounts from sponsors. How many of those sponsors are no longer a topic of conversation here? Or don't always respect the existing agreement? or have gone by the wayside? I truly don't know the answer to that myself, but I do know that two CRT card carrying members I met last week thought CRT membership meant having a discount card for Sportsmens. They had no clue about anything else. sigh.

It's a gentlemen's board, in theory, and I'd just like to see us all being a bit more open wih each other, sharing more, going back to exploring and reveling in fnding new places and girls, and in general being a little less laser-focused on a small handful of locales in the gulch. This board used to be so much more. Of course, that required help from the membership. I fully expect that this little commentary of mine will fall on deaf ears, except for the flamers who I'm sure I'll hear from shortly, but I woud really like to see the level of this board raised again, and I thought that for my own peace of ind that I needed and wanted to say something. Hope you guys will help.

best regards to all,

shadow




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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:43 pm 
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I didn't come to CRT looking for brotherhood or cameraderie, but rather to glean information about p4p in San Jose. The CRT discounts were incentive enough to purchase a VIP membership for a few years. Having said that (and without creating a wrong impression), I have made many amigos within the ranks of CRT. These friendships are a bonus of my association with the board.

My life has changed significantly since my first visit to the San Jose gulch. I am now retired and living in Colombia. My last visit to the gulch was 4 years ago. (I guess a lot has changed there, too.) Nevertheless, I enjoy participating in this forum... it's one of the things I do to occupy retired life. :lol:

I don't post much about mongering anymore. Even though I was pretty well-traveled throughout CR, and knew my way around SJ mongering venues, my knowledge of "who's who" in the gulch, and current events in CR, is quite dated. I am also very careful of what I post about my adopted Colombian hometown. I am not a "weekend warrior" and live here full-time. So, I must remain discreet, and keep many details back channel. I don't like shitting where I eat... if you get my drift. :wink: I enjoy making contributions about the logistics and touristic side of Colombia. There are probably guys who don't even look at my posts, which is fine. If I helped even a handful of visitors to Colombia, that is cool. (No accolades required.) I do my best to ignore the post whores and asshats which probably contributes to my longevity on CRT. For me, I will continue posting until it is no longer fun... or Admin tells me to leave.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:10 pm 
the subject of this board is too narrow. first mongering trip anywhere, it helps to read, second mongering trip anywhere and you are an expert. mongering is not that complicated. there is enough history on many mongering boards to guide one without him having to ask any questions. another thing is that after anyone has mongered once, you know that once on the ground no matter where you are, go to the red light area of town where a bunch of other mongers are and you'll get all your answers in person.

i went to sj 7 years ago and guess what most of the same venues are still there, sj is still the same, people come, people go, but the venues are still doing the same thing. it wouldn't hurt me if i went and a few venues were gone while a few others have come. i'd find my way around without even thinking.

i have often thought what could make this board what it once was and i thought these might do it:
--delete all or pretty much most of the board history, all it does is allow newcomers to remain silent because all the answers are here already.
--deleting the history deletes a lot of posts with in-fighting too. newcomers read the history and are afraid to ask a question (afraid they will get flamed).
--when newcomers ask very very very basic questions, answer without making him feel like he is a dumbass. some of you pros do not remember when you were a newcomer. take a deep breath and answer the question like it was the first time it was asked - don't even suggest he click the search button, if you reply, do it will consideration to another person's feelings).
--guys that cause trouble, act stupid, make others feel unwelcome, put their membership on hold for 1 week absolutely IMMEDIATELY, if they do it again, another week on hold, eventually they will either leave or behave for fear of being put on hold. if they create another membership anbd they act up under that membership, on hold for 1 week so there is 2 memberships, same person on hold and that is fine. i've seen this work on other non mongering sites that are actually political in nature, but because people on those other forums play by my byline before (READ IT!!!), they do well getting along. one week ban isn't going to hurt anyone and if he is so hurt he never returns again, what is wrong with getting rid of a troublemaker?
--when someone posts something that gets him ban, replace his post with a banner reading "BAN FOR NOT BEING A GENTLEMAN." This will serve as a reminder to everyone that being a gentleman matters and it will warn newcomers that acting like a gentlemen matters. Replacing the post with the banner also gets the bs/drama off the board. Who needs it, really? Who needs to see what caused anyone to get banned - no one!

and my last recommendation is:

broaden the site's scope - add sports. add a football, baseball, basketball (separate for pro and college) forums. add other sports if there is demand (golf maybe). sports is ever changing unlike mongering guys will stay to talk sport if the atmosphere is welcoming and gentlemanly and the slow updates around mongering can happen as an aside. keep the homepage focused on mongering so the pu*sy brings guys in and just hope that the change around sports keep them here (change as in new player and new coaches).


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:18 pm 
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I agree with you Shadowman. I have been a member for less than four years, but I have seen a change in that time. I have made good use of the membership discounts and received good information; but, anymore, I rarely mention in a converstaion that I am a member. To me, it's somewhat like the Hatfields and the McCoys now.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:21 pm 
oh and one other thing - this will be lost in the shuffle but i will still say it.

keep in mind that not all mongers are mongering because they hate american women. some of us monger for the fantasy around having sex with a way younger woman. the american woman haters always got on my nerves. keep in mind, NO MATTER WHERE A WOMAN IS FROM, a woman with self respect whether nice looking or ugly, smart or dumb, fat or thin is not going to be easy to get into bed. you want a woman with no self respect, go mongering.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:07 am 
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Trying to get correct information on this board is like trying to find out where a fisherman catches his fish. A true fisherman will say " In the Mouth"! :lol: Not many guys will give up their honey hole . I know myself that I cannot phuck them all so I try to at least give an accurate report. San Jose mongering does change from week to week that is one thing I have learned.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:49 am 
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as far as the girl info its been covered a million times, there are guys on the ground there monitoring the boards and telling girls whats been written, if not just outright showing them.
if you frequent a spot a few times a year thats a whole lot of drama you don't need.
the whole gentleman board is a great thought but until the douchebags on this board are moderated then chaos will be the rule of the day.
there is a big difference from making jokes and chiding as opposed to baiting and smashing down someone w a difference of opinion. no amount of good guy gentleman talk is changing that.
it seems to me a lot of the guys posting get pretty red faced as they respond. my guess is thats from a lack of exposure to internet boards or the typical moderation.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:15 am 
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keep in mind, NO MATTER WHERE A WOMAN IS FROM, a woman with self respect whether nice looking or ugly, smart or dumb, fat or thin is not going to be easy to get into bed. you want a woman with no self respect, go mongering.


Not sure this is always true. You could say that for MP girls for sure, but many independents do it out of economic desperation, youthful indiscretion and/or lack of moral certitude.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:34 am 
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I agree with Estebahn. These Chicas all have their reasons. I know many that would prefer not to be in the business but by pure necessity to survive they must. I presently know a chica that is considering going into the business to go back to school and try to make her life better. She knows that may be the only way she can overcome poverty. I respect her ,but she is truthful about what it takes to make it. I do not think she will actually go through with it, but many young Chicas do support their education by this occupation. If it were the U.S. I might agree with the other side of this debate, but the culture is different and I do not believe these Chicas lose face just because they have to sell themselves to get by. I am not going to judge them. Actually many of them I trust and are really good people. Treat them well and you normally will be returned the same. Do not try to stereotype a working girl.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:43 am 
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I know many that would prefer not to be in the business but by pure necessity to survive they must.


that is pure BS. my wife is from the phililippines and i know there are millions of dirty poor girls there that have never considered sell themselves.

hey, consider this, what about the dumb ugly fat chicks that can't be hookers, what do they do out of pure necessity?

you seem to have mongering tunnel vision. if the ugly fat chicks make it without mongering so can the hot ones.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:57 am 
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The fact that you a passing a moral judgement on putas is a little hypocritical given that you indulge and partake. If you pass moral judgement on these girls then you must acknowledge that you are exploiting their moral lapse. Do you not hold yourself to the same standards that you judge these girls?

Lets face it, were all going to Hell :twisted: :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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