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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:17 pm 
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That life size photo near the exit after customs at the airport with the warning to Gringo's about this kind of stuff always pissed me off, but it's been gone now for quite a while. Haven't noticed the billboard anymore either.

You've got the mayor of Quepos who was heavily involved in this immorality for years and the locals knew (finally arrested earlier this year and awaiting trial) and on and on with Tico's yet they publicly point at gringos. I have been reading CR newspapers daily for years. Only once did I read about a gringo involved in this crap, a Canadian, not that his country matters, about 5-7 years ago. And there is a pending Interpol hot for a gringo that was involved/owned one of the night clubs for trafficking, but not und***ge stuff.

I think if a gringo got caught in CR doing something with minors, the govt would make sure it hit the papers.

The other dirty secret is their rivers and streams pollution, which all flow into the Atlantic or Pacific, making the "CR is an ecological wonder" a myth.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:23 pm 
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I hear ya DGD. Over half the chicas down here get the cherry taken by an uncle, dad or other family member but they don't seem to acknowledge that so much... :(


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:26 pm 
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I hear ya DGD. Over half the chicas down here get the cherry taken by an uncle, dad or other family member but they don't seem to acknowledge that so much... :(


Would you care to give us some empirical data to back that statistic up?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:10 pm 
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I hear ya DGD. Over half the chicas down here get the cherry taken by an uncle, dad or other family member but they don't seem to acknowledge that so much... :(


Would you care to give us some empirical data to back that statistic up?


Geez, About half the working chicas have told me an uncle, cousin, or other person very close to the family was her 'first'.

This is a very common story, almost a theme, among the working girls.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:28 pm 
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I left out a key word there ID. I meant to put working chicas there myself. But have also heard many stories of incest from quite a few non working chicas from both Costa Rica and Nicaragua.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:55 pm 
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I left out a key word there ID. I meant to put working chicas there myself. But have also heard many stories of incest from quite a few non working chicas from both Costa Rica and Nicaragua.


Working non working makes little difference. It is still anecdotal and in no way can your conversations, regardless of the amount you might claim to have had, be extrapolated to come up with a meaningful statistic.

It is tantamount to sitting in the lobby of the HDR for 5 nights a week for 10 weeks and saying that 75% of all the male tourists came here as sex tourists. When questioned how did you reach that figure you state I spoke with a lot of them.:roll:

Think your sampling method might be a bit unscientific? :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:20 pm 
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haha I don't have anything at the bottom of my posts, like a signature. I might work a disclaimer in there that I am in no way a scientist. Killed way too many brain cells in my past life to claim that. :D But it does kind of annoy that they country at times seems to insinuate that this is a problem with gringos coming down for this. No numbers on this but would have to think it would be at least 10-1 citizens committing this type of abuse as opposed to gringos.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:33 pm 
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I dunno, ID - not that it always comes up a topic of conversation :oops: :lol: :P :) I have had many tell me the same thing; heard many times it was an older "friend of the family" who did the deed when she was young, like 14, 15, 16. Have also heard older cousins, all sorts of family members :roll: Not a doubt in my mind this happens, and with some frequency.

Now I'm not going to get into percentages, because I honestly don't know the percentage (highly doubt that number is even available, but who knows:?: ) - but its come up a number of times, just in conversation, and apparently with others as well - so I can believe it.

As to the life size cutout; I don't think this happens all that often, but then, not what I'm into or looking for , and I'll bet that applies to the vast majority of male travelers- I can say, in 15 years of coming down, and over 40 trips, I've never seen it, nor has it ever been offered to me - but no doubt it does, and when it does it hits the news in a big way - again, I could be wrong <there I said it :lol: > and no doubt it happens, but just think its may be more prevalent in Asia vs CR (and no, I don't have the stats to prove that either :lol: :lol: - just MHO :) :)


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You just made my point Scuba. No one has any figures to come up with a percentage. Does incest occur? Of course it happens everywhere including the U.S. and is most likely vastly under reported. Even though it is a very popular defense for all kind of crimes in the U.s. "I know I should not have robbed that store and killed 5 people your honor but I could not help myself. It all stems back to my being molested as a Ch*ld."

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also heard many stories of incest from quite a few non working chicas from both Costa Rica and Nicaragua.


Just how does that come up in a conversation with a non-working girl? Most victims of incest do not discuss that with anyone and then only when they are very deeply committed to a relationship. Amazing that they would open up to you in casual conversation.

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well, in the case of nicas, a 50% figure would not be out of the question.....approx 1 out of ever 4 births in nicaragua are by teenagers...and numbers of births by mothers under the age of 15 have increased over 50% over the past decade there.

therefore, a the 50% figures mentioned earlier in this topic are probably closer to the actual figure than missing it from afar.


groups such as amnesty international report abuse of minors is widespread in nicaragua.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:36 pm 
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well, in the case of nicas, a 50% figure would not be out of the question.....approx 1 out of ever 4 births in nicaragua are by teenagers...and numbers of births by mothers under the age of 15 have increased over 50% over the past decade there.

therefore, a the 50% figures mentioned earlier in this topic are probably closer to the actual figure than missing it from afar.


groups such as amnesty international report abuse of minors is widespread in nicaragua.


I believe, after reading the Amnesty International reports for 2011 & 2012, that they place the reason for those figures you site on rape and the total ban on abortion rather then incest. In any event you can not compare Costa Rica and Nicaragua in this case because of many reasons not the least being that Nicaragua is the 2nd poorest country in the western hemisphere, the literacy rate is far below that of Costa Rica as well as the aforementioned total ban on abortion which includes pregnancy because of rape or incest.

I am sure incest is a problem in Central American countries as well as North America and South America. Certainly not anywhere close to the rates in Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Chechnya. My problem with some of the posts in this thread is the throwing around of numbers that are nothing more then wild ass guesses and posting them as fact.

The misuse of the word Tica is disturbing to Scuba and wild ass guesses presented as fact are disturbing to me so we tend to take exception when they appear in a post on CRT. Every one has their own personal peeves. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:41 pm 
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Your personal peeves are actually why you are one of my favorite posters ID. And I am not a hard head. I stand corrected and admit that I just threw numbers out there. Somebody has to keep us straight on here. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Irish Drifter wrote:
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well, in the case of nicas, a 50% figure would not be out of the question.....approx 1 out of ever 4 births in nicaragua are by teenagers...and numbers of births by mothers under the age of 15 have increased over 50% over the past decade there.

therefore, a the 50% figures mentioned earlier in this topic are probably closer to the actual figure than missing it from afar.


groups such as amnesty international report abuse of minors is widespread in nicaragua.


I believe, after reading the Amnesty International reports for 2011 & 2012, that they place the reason for those figures you site on rape and the total ban on abortion rather then incest. In any event you can not compare Costa Rica and Nicaragua in this case because of many reasons not the least being that Nicaragua is the 2nd poorest country in the western hemisphere, the literacy rate is far below that of Costa Rica as well as the aforementioned total ban on abortion which includes pregnancy because of rape or incest.

I am sure incest is a problem in Central American countries as well as North America and South America. Certainly not anywhere close to the rates in Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Chechnya. My problem with some of the posts in this thread is the throwing around of numbers that are nothing more then wild ass guesses and posting them as fact.

The misuse of the word Tica is disturbing to Scuba and wild ass guesses presented as fact are disturbing to me so we tend to take exception when they appear in a post on CRT. Every one has their own personal peeves. :lol:



Who me :shock: :?: :lol: :shock:

Tell ya what ID - I've always liked your posts (seriously...for years :) ), and figure you to be a smart, very knowledgeable about lots of things, no <little> tolerence for idiots kinda guy - lets do this - I'll start leaning on guys who throw out stats with little/to no back up, and you start leaning on the dopes who misuse the word "tica" - deal?

This way we both strike a blow for our pet peeves - wadda ya say - I might be able to get you the "Soprano Discount" or some time at one of the properties promoted by Frank Cassio if you do!

(Jesus....kill me :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :shock: :o :wink: :) :) :) )


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:19 am 
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I say that this marketing campaign is designed to salve the guilt Ticos feel. Sure, many und***ge females are knocked up by Tico family members or friends of the family, but most Ticos do not get the spine tingling mortification that the average gringo gets at the mention of the "statutory rape."

USA: Female 25 year old school teacher has affair with 17 year old male student results in loss of job and freedom for teacher, registry as a sex offender, and so much negative publicity, a Google search will bring it even up 30 years later.

Costa Rica: Male 25 knocks up female 15 in a small village results in wedding invitation that reads:
" U , 2 (drawing of house with steeple and cross). Maria miss . "
(translation: You coma to church. Maria miss period.)

Is there anyone in prison in Costa Rica for knocking up a 15? Does it make the news? I have tried to translate and explain the phrase "16 will get you 20," to many latins who have no lived in the USA, but I don't get the "yeah, we have that, too, in our country," just bemused looks and questions about who supports the offspring if daddy is in jail.

But for Ticos, the boogie man about the foreigner are very comforting. It is like racists who refuse to acknowledge that the average welfare recipient is not an African-American in some urban ghetto, but someone they walk past in their rural county Walmart supermarket, especially after 11pm on the last day of the month when the EBT benefit cards are about to be recharged at midnight.

Let the Ticos have their boogie man. It makes them feel better about their own internal contridictions. And woe be to the first Northern Hemisphere foreigner they arrest. There is so much pent up demand for the living embodiment of their phantasm that he will be tried in the press for months and not get even a half way decent chance at aquittal because the government will not be like Rosanne Rosannadanna and lose face by saying "never mind."

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:17 pm 
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Statistics gentleman, can be a slippery slope. A few years ago La Nacion ran an eye opening report stating that 75% of all live births at Hospital Mexico were to women 17 years old, or younger. Now, the question is who knocked up these girls? For several years I was acquainted with Dr. Leonardo Mata from the University of Costa Rica. He is a controversial character known as the Kinsey of Cost Rica. He has over the past quarter century conducted several interesting polls regarding sexuality and incidence of domestic violence in Costa Rica. I'm doing this from memory, and please feel free to correct me if I wrong, but Dr. Mata concluded that the incidence of incest in Guanacaste is rampant, and that is being kind. The mentality of the country folk here is that if they have to feed a girl Ch*ld, then they are gonna Phuck her, too. Does this lead to young girls running away from home and doing the only thing that daddy taught them to do for a living?

Dr. Mata also did a lot of research at the Family Courts in San Jose. He estimated that in 56% of all domestic cases in the land of Pura Vida, the woman was actually the aggressor. Of course, 95% of those arrested and removed from the premises are men. What a surprise.

Now, just a comment on perceived percentages of working girls to civilians. When you only fish in a catfish pond, one would think that all fish are catfish. When you start to branch out a bit and mix with the locals, you not only find that the fishing is more interesting and you start to catch a whole different kind of fish, my favorite being the Desperate Suburban Housewife Snapper. Yes, it does take time, a little cash and dedication to break into this Gulf Stream of love, but I believe it is worth it. Don't get me wrong, I'm just about ready to have the words "Tis better to rent than to own" tattooed across my chest, but I gotta tell you there is something about having some hot 30 year old with a Masters Degree pull up in your drive way in a late model Mercedes with nothing on her mind but drinking a glass of wine and sucking your dick. Guess what, they say thank you and leave!

Sorry for the long post, but this is an interesting subject.

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