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Author:  Jett [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:34 am ]
Post subject:  The Monger's Dilemma

I have a situation that I'm bound to encounter at some point and I would like the counsel of wise and learned men. A couple of points then my questions:
1. I'm not married, and don't want to be at this point in my life, if ever.
2. I don't have a girlfriend(gringa) at present but can see potential in one at a later date.

Not having a wife or GF frees me from the constraints of relationships and allows me to take time to monger to my hearts content. After years of being a domesticated husband/boyfriend I really like getting busy with sexy chicas of all types. No obligations, no commitments, or demands that I load the dishwasher. Just a few bucks and a stiff dick. It's the life I always dreamed about when I was alone during my marriages when the wife wouldn't put out. Sadly, as I date women in the "real world" I find myself constantly confronted with their desires of a relationship/marriage. That's what all women seem to want in my neck of the woods. I can't even have a short-term booty call without the proverbial, "Where is this relationship going?" and "Is that all I am to you; a Phuck bunny?" If I could keep a steady chick and still monger that would be ideal. The problem though is that I have a moral problem with cheating on my women. So I know that if I ever decide to get in a relationship my monger days are finished :( . I would hate to lie or concoct some story as to why I'm leaving the country to go to Sosua or CR without "her" for 1-2 weeks.

So my question is; how do you guys balance the demands of "real world" women with the joys of monger paradise?

Author:  Rac [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:15 am ]
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My advice, for what it's worth.........

Forget about any balancing. There is no balance to be achieved on the two worlds that you describe.

Forget the gringas. Use the money that you'd spend on gringas at home to have a good time in CR as often as you can.

You can choose to monger or wife-up in CR with much less hassle. You can even do both at the same time, although that's not your inclination, nor mine.

IMHO, there is no contest between CR and the US. CR wins every time. IMHO focus your hormones and your heart on CR.

RAC

Author:  LAdiablo [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:36 am ]
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i live in the open
not as in, "ok i'm on the way to CR to bang hookers"
but as in i am a mature grown man and i do what i want
ask no questions
i tell you no lies
having to lie really sucks i agree
in return you have to accept she likely also has another life
but thats fair right?

Author:  CRBound [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:14 am ]
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there are plenty of women who share your philosophy as well....it's just finding them .

you may have to step outside of your comfort zone and check out nudist resorts, swingers groups and swingers clubs etc.

Author:  BonePony [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:27 am ]
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Rac wrote:
My advice, for what it's worth.........

Forget about any balancing. There is no balance to be achieved on the two worlds that you describe.

Forget the gringas. Use the money that you'd spend on gringas at home to have a good time in CR as often as you can.

You can choose to monger or wife-up in CR with much less hassle. You can even do both at the same time, although that's not your inclination, nor mine.

IMHO, there is no contest between CR and the US. CR wins every time. IMHO focus your hormones and your heart on CR.

RAC


I agree with RAC, just save your money for San Jose. If you need to "take the shakes off betwwen trips" find a couple girls you can booty call no strings (and let them know thats all it is, there out there you just have to find them)

Author:  Mike321 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 pm ]
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Jett
just do what pleases you.Even with a friendly the inevitable questions will arise.
Why do you go to costa rica?
What do you do down there?
Can i go with you?

Author:  Seawub [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 pm ]
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I've gotten the why do you keep going back to Costa Rica question a lot. Also had family members want to come with me because they don't know what I do there. Would almost be easier to say sure you can come but while you go zip line I'm going to hang at a brothel for a bit and then laugh at the look on their face.

Author:  Icantstayaway [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:54 pm ]
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Jett wrote:
Sadly, as I date women in the "real world" I find myself constantly confronted with their desires of a relationship/marriage. That's what all women seem to want in my neck of the woods. I can't even have a short-term booty call without the proverbial, "Where is this relationship going?" and "Is that all I am to you; a Phuck bunny?"


This was my situation in the USA. I was 34, in shape and successful. That was a curse because every girl was trying to introduce me to my future 'in-laws' on the first date. And god forbid I had sex with them. Talk about instant stalkers.

There seemed to be no dating. Just the option to get married.

The funny thing is I wasn't even against a monogamous relationship. But they wouldn't or couldn't give it time to happen.

Author:  BlueDevil [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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If "you've been there... done that", be selfish for once in your life and just worry about #1 (you). And until you feel you need to change the direction of your life, continue down the mongering trail, and do what you do best. Monger on, amigo. :wink:

Author:  JTF-Bravo [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:04 pm ]
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Mike321 wrote:
Jett
just do what pleases you.Even with a friendly the inevitable questions will arise.
Why do you go to costa rica?
What do you do down there?
Can i go with you?


I once met a baby boomer aged monger. He was married. Wife got curious about why he kept going to his favorite monger destination.

He finally concocted this story.

She knew that he was not drafted during the Vietnam war. He told her that she was exempted because he worked for a three letter spy agency in some support capacity, not as an operator.

It was shortly after 9-11 and they contacted him and asked him if he would volunteer to do some part time, volunteer work for them. See, all the real case officers and operatives were being put on the real important and dangerous assignments in the Middle East, and there was a shortage of them, so volunteers were being recalled to do low level, not-so-sensitive stuff, no-danger jobs like.....courier jobs....in his favorite monger destination countries.

"Honey, don't tell anyone, it's classified....but I am to go to Rio and work "Operation: Terma." I meet with code name "4x4", "L'uomo," and "Centaurus." Then, I stake out Cafe TA and wait for my contact outside Helpe Disco. "

No records, no written orders, just the occassional email to his office computer to meet with his "handler" or "detailer" for lunch. He'd be told when to go and where to go, who to meet with, what to do when he got there.

Author:  JTF-Bravo [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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Jett wrote:
Sadly, as I date women in the "real world" I find myself constantly confronted with their desires of a relationship/marriage. That's what all women seem to want in my neck of the woods. I can't even have a short-term booty call without the proverbial, "Where is this relationship going?" and "Is that all I am to you; a Phuck bunny?" So my question is; how do you guys balance the demands of "real world" women with the joys of monger paradise?


I think the pressure for a "relationship" has to do with how old these women are, as well as the perma-recession.

I will assume that their biological clocks are ticking, they are realizing that Obama-nomics sucks, and they are feel the need to latch on to a solvent, steady-employed man for for some economic stability.

Funny, because just 10-15 years ago, they wanted to be like the women in "Sex and the City." They have gone from "I'm liberated...I can have it all," to "I'm not getting my dream job....I want all of his stuff, and if I can't have it and we split, I want half his stuff."

I'm pretty sure that if these women made much more money than you, they wouldn't be in such a hurry for a (financially binding) relationship with you, and they would be glad to make you their phuck bunny....but only when they were in the mood.

Enjoy the hobby. Come home satiated. Your vibe of just wanting -but not really needing- sex with the Gringa is the vibe that Charlie Sheen, famous rocks stars, guys that attend womens colleges, and guys that make first world salaries in 2nd and 3rd world countries full of beautiful women give off. It will make you very attractive to gringas, because they don't know any young/handsome/famous rock stars/actors/NASCAR drivers/astronauts, and you are the only one giving off "the vibe."

There is no balance. Use what you get from the mongering side of you to be even better at being the non-mongering you. You are Neo. You took the red pill, you see the "gringa matrix" for what it is and realize the rules that push down the 99% of the guys who don't do what you do....well those rules don't apply to you....because you don't play a game you can't win.

Author:  Jackal [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:31 pm ]
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Quote:
I'm pretty sure that if these women made much more money than you, they wouldn't be in such a hurry for a (financially binding) relationship with you, and they would be glad to make you their phuck bunny....but only when they were in the mood.


This seems to make sense, what could you possibly offer a women with money?...Nothing, the only thing that would interest her would be someone with even more money, for a even higher lifestyle.

As for the mongers dilemma, the only reason for marriage or any type of relationship would be for a home with ch*ldren. You better make sure she's genuinely attracted to you and not your wallet, very hard to find this elusive type of women, but it's possible.

Author:  Jett [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:57 pm ]
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Some good advice and great responses guys. JTF made a good point about being "Neo" from the Matrix. It feels like that to some degree. The conflict and internal struggle can be very difficult because the Gringa-Matrix demands sexual exclusivity. Something I no longer think is in my best interest. Sure, I think most guys would love to have a permanent lady that could make them happy and so on. However, I really look forward to mongering. I can't wait to get on that plane and take my trip to Never-never land! Most guys my age(late 30's) are married or have a couple of K*ds. When you pull em to the side with a beer or two the truth comes out: they hate their lives.

I don't want to hate my life. I don't want to commit to some gringa and then always wonder in the back of my mind what it would be like to have a mind-blowing session with Karen or Camilla at HLH. Chicas are always accommodating and happy to see me(as long as I have $$ of course :lol: ).

I can hear the women in my family now, "Jett, if you don't settle down with a lady your gonna be a lonely old man with nobody to take care of you."

With where I'm at now, dying a lonely old man with a puta on top of me doesn't sound all that bad. Nope, not bad at all. :mrgreen:

Author:  Rac [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:59 am ]
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Hey Jett.......

It seems like your mind is on the right track. I don't think that you'll be sorry.

I can take the "wonder" out of the "back of your mind", and make it perfectly clear to you, about what it would be like to have a mind-blowing session with Karen. It would be THE BEST THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE. Karen has been a legend for a long time for good reason. Go for it (her) !!!!!

RAC

Author:  JTF-Bravo [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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Jett wrote:
JTF made a good point about being "Neo" from the Matrix. It feels like that to some degree. The conflict and internal struggle can be very difficult because the Gringa-Matrix demands sexual exclusivity. Something I no longer think is in my best interest.:


No it is not in your best interest, but that is how monopolies work. Does the union want you to hire non-union labor? The Saltines people don't want you tasting Ritz or Wheat Thins on the side if they can help it!


:[/quote] Most guys my age(late 30's) are married or have a couple of K*ds. When you pull em to the side with a beer or two the truth comes out: they hate their lives. :[/quote]

Of course they do. They were in the prime of their lives and they decided that, sexually, they didn't NEED all those channels, got rid of the cable connection and settle for rabbit ears.

:[/quote]
I can hear the women in my family now, "Jett, if you don't settle down with a lady your gonna be a lonely old man with nobody to take care of you." :[/quote]

Trust me, if you wait until you are in your 40's or 50's to get married, you will find someone to marry. She could be a gringa who is your age, or she could be a non=gringa who is in her 30's or 20's. Be marriage material and you will have choices. Just don't search for a wife in the same venues went to for mongering.

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