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| Author: | DGD [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
Not sure how accurate this Sala Primera court opinion was interpreted by today's AM Costa Rica, but it caught my attention. High court say police should only carry light firearms By the A.M. Costa Rica staff The Sala Primera ruled that police officers should not carry powerful firearms unless officers are members of special units that take on organized crime. In one of its more controversial rulings, the high criminal court threw out a directive by the executive branch allowing police officers to carry weapons other than .22-caliber, .38-caliber and 9-mm. The Poder Judicial issued a clarification Wednesday over the decision which took most police officers by surprise. The Poder Judicial said that the Sala Primera recognizes that the law gives the executive branch the power to regulate the use of weapons. But the court said the existing decree allows police to indiscriminately carry heavier weapons on a daily basis. This is a violation of the law because police carrying such weapons exposes citizens to risk, said the summary by the Poder Judicial. The court ordered the executive branch to issue within a month a more reasonable decree outlining the use of weapons. The court says it did not prohibit the use of weapons but only rejected a decree that provides for the use of heavy weaponry. Criminals frequently have access to AK-47 automatic rifles, Uzi submachine guns and even heavier armament. Fuerza Pública officers sometimes carry rifles when guarding prisoners or large stashes of drugs. The court ruling would seem to apply to all police agencies, including the Judicial Investigating Organization and the anti-drug police. |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
Guess that knocks out the LEOs from having this weapon: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/sub-2000/ or these: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-huge-pers ... rearms.php << Interesting informed commentary but maybe not this: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/plr-16/ |
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| Author: | DGD [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
"This is a violation of the law because police carrying such weapons exposes citizens to risk". That was the quote from the court (reportedly)that really caught my attention. |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
I Googled "Police weapons training in Costa Rica" and came up empty. I don't know what that training is but even medium caliber weapons poorly used can do serious damage to those not involved ("collateral damage" is the horrid phrase). So Brother DGD points out the relevant portion of this ruling...Those judges and their families presumably live in SJO... There is this thoughtful paper that talks in part of the CR police and policing: http://www.coha.org/costa-rica-an-army- ... ne-region/ Hell, I'm even throwing in, gratis, an article on how to do that weapons training cost effectively: http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapon ... -ammo.aspx << Full-service Board here, right? |
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| Author: | TexasNVegas [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
Latin America firearms laws bewilder me. I have a gun license in Colombia. I am restricted to a max caliber of 380 (9mm kurz or short). A standard 9mm is restricted for police use. The military has no restrictions that I can determine. |
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| Author: | DGD [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
Jazz, where's the link to Dinah Washington's "What a difference a day makes"? Today's Inside Costa Rica: Police CAN Carry Heavy Duty Weapons "Following a controversial decision, the Sala I clarified that they did not ban police from use of high-powered weapons in their fight against criminals. The magistrates said the reference to the ban in their decision was to carrying the heavy duty arms in "regular" or "routine" patrols. (No chance they would need them then I guess) The Sala Primera (High Court) made the clarifications at the request of the Poder Ejecutivo (the judicial branch) to ensure the public safety, as mandated by the country's Constitution. The judges of the high Court said the limitation is not to endanger the public with heavy weapons in daily police activities. The judges made it clear that the limitation does not apply to the special units of the police force, such as the SIP, the GAO and others, which are tactical response units, for example." |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
DGD wrote: Jazz, where's the link to Dinah Washington's "What a difference a day makes"? As I said to another Brother today--you ask, I respond (excellent choice, BTW): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBxVfQTuvI << Surprise, surprise--it was written by a Mexicana and later translated. Beautiful piece (I'll spare you the Wiki link on that). |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:12 pm ] |
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Greengo wrote: American fighting men... who have died face down in the mud to protect idiots and morons from one another all over the world for a hundred years .... I have found Greengo's epistles thoughtful and amusing but this is a bit over the top. Latin Americans in particular have a different POV about the exercise of American military might and actions. |
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| Author: | PacoLoco [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:24 pm ] |
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Maybe Greengo's not Latin American and expressing his POV, you should stick to irrelevant links or digging up 10 year old jokes. |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:55 pm ] |
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PacoLoco wrote: you should stick to irrelevant links or digging up 10 year old jokes. Sure thing--your charm offensive worked. I'll also stay out of the Executive Sandbox aka this: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=41531 Also, tell your buddy that I understand New Hampshire has some of the loosest gun-owning laws in the US so I'll stay out of his way too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_i ... _(by_state) Whoops, there I go being all screamingly relevant again. Sometimes it just overwhelms me... |
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| Author: | TexasNVegas [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:49 pm ] |
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Bro JB; Maybe you need to come down to Medellin and unwind. I'll be your wingman for a day. You are spending too much time on the computer, it seems. |
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| Author: | JTF-Bravo [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:19 pm ] |
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Texas&Vegas wrote: Latin America firearms laws bewilder me. I have a gun license in Colombia. I am restricted to a max caliber of 380 (9mm kurz or short). A standard 9mm is restricted for police use. The military has no restrictions that I can determine. That is very sad. .380 is the "Dane Cook" of defensive calibers. Can you get licensed for 7.62x25 Tokarev? |
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| Author: | Steven1 [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:51 pm ] |
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JTF-Bravo wrote: That is very sad. .380 is the "Dane Cook" of defensive calibers. Can you get licensed for 7.62x25 Tokarev? JTF-Bravo.....say it so....that you're also hatin' on the makarov? |
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| Author: | JazzboCR [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CR Court limits the caliber of CR Police weapons |
For what these pistols are and how they compare, see this: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155933 |
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