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I thought I would try and put into words some thoughts I have had lately while reading the many posts on this forum. It seems to me that a lot of what is written on here is phrased in “absolute” terms when, in reality, there is nothing absolute in what we do. One persons “10” is another persons “6”. A hundred bucks to Joe may be nothing; but to Rick, it may seem like too much. Some guys like the company of the women they go with, while others are just looking to get a nut off. A girl you pay to stay tonight might stay with you again tomorrow for nothing more then your company and a dinner out.

I offer up my own perspective on things to back what I am trying to say here...

Where I live, I usually only partake in the p4p scene once in a long while. While still single since the death of my wife, I am reasonably content with my life and in no hurry to find another serious relationship just yet. Being able to travel to places like SJO and have a blast for 10 days at a time, two or three times a year seems to be working out for me pretty good. The rest of the time, I socialize with friends, work at my job hard, ride my motorcycles, etc. But, even so, sometimes the stress builds up and I do go out and give myself a night off, sort to speak.

Friday was a perfect example of this. I started the evening by visiting a really old friend of mine who is a smoking hot stripper. For over ten years, we have been close friends and it may seem strange, but not once have I crossed that line and had sex with her. Just lots of drinking, lap dances, partying and conversation. I think I know deep down that our friendship would be ruined if we ever took it to that next level. So I am content to party it up with her and on Friday, I spent probably $240 buying drinks for us and some other girls, getting lap dances and having a good time.

After two or three hours of this though, I am more then worked up and now need to find someone to take care of me My usual choice these days is one of the many Chinese massage parlors we have here. I know several really sweet girls that will give you an amazing massage for an hour and then the happy ending, however you like it. The massage alone is between $60 and 70 for the hour and if you're cheap, you can get a normal HJ at the end for $40 or, if you know the girl well, like I do, you can go full sex for $100. And even after the deed is done and their money earned, they still take the time to give you a cleaning with hot towels and a soothing scalp massage after.

Comparison - There's other places to get P4P in Canadian cities. ******* in the paper usually run $200 for the hour, $120 or so for the half hour. You can try the strip club route... That's hit & miss. The really good looking girls can easily pull in a grand every night just doing lap dances, all while getting drinks bought for her and in the safety of the club. So why would they settle for having sex with some strange guy for $200? It takes a lot of money and effort building a relationship with a dancer before she is willing to give you the goods and then you still have all the extra costs like drinks, hotels, etc. Of course, there's street walkers for as low as $40 if you like crack heads sucking on your dick. And then there's the local “body rub” parlors, where some overweight white trailer trash who thinks her shit don't stink will pretend to give you a massage for 10 mins and then ask you to turn over and try and get you to finish as fast as you can – all for a hundred bucks. I've tried them all and, for me, I enjoy spending quality time with woman I really enjoy the company of (like my stripper friend) and getting quality service (like the Chinese massage places I discovered).

So the end result is I need to spend over $400 for a really good night out – Here at home.


More comparisons – Some other places I have done P4P – I tried call girls in Los Angeles, which were expensive and underwhelming. I tried massage parlors in Hollywood (not bad, but way more “pro” then the small ones I frequent up here). Heck, I once attended a big media kabutz at the Kodak Theater in Hollywood and tried to pick up a streetwalker on Hollywood Boulevard afterwards (piss ass drunk!). Turned out to be a transvestite that I had a little trouble getting rid of :blush: - Live and learn!

The red light district in Amsterdam was interesting, but more expensive then I thought it would be. OK.. girls sitting in little booths behind windows with a red light. Walk down the street looking, then pick one out, go inside and do the deed – usually right behind the curtain that is behind where she sits. Do it once and the novelty wears off, lol. I had more fun flirting with the girls at the Flying Pig youth hostel on the Nieuwendijk, where I stayed. $18 a night, bar on the main floor open until 5am with pints for $3 and pre-rolled joints for sale

I lived in Copenhagen for over a year once. Fell in love with those Scandinavian women. Something about tall, blonde slim women, who smoke while they ride bicycles everywhere. It was nice there. Everyone speaks English. There's lots of P4P action (after all, this is Denmark, birthplace of porn practically, lol) Bars with sex shows, lots of call girls and the streetwalkers are even a cut above. Just watch out for the heroin junkies. The booze is cheap and the P4P not that expensive but it's very expensive to live in Denmark. Also, you have to pace yourself. A typical night out starts at one bar, moves to the “clubs” after midnight and might not end until 7am or later! The atmosphere was awesome in Copenhagen and I would love to go back some day.

Did a few weeks touring around Japan about 12 years ago. It was mostly a soul searching trip and not for P4P specifically, but I still managed to get a weekend in Tokyo's Kabukichō area that cost me more money then the rest of my trip combined! I also had some great fun with a married women in a small Northern Aomori town during a keg party that some Japanses-English Teachers put on. The Buddhist religion is a blast when it comes to relationships and no-guilt sex Still though, it's very lonely in Japan when hardly anyone speaks English and there's a lot of deep seated racism in their culture that is disturbing after you have been there for a while and can notice it.

My Perspective - For my usual budget of around $3000, I can fly to CR and spend 10 days in a nice hotel and enjoy the same sort of quality companionship and service every night for ten days. That's a TLN every night with usually at least two sessions per, plus a few daytime visits to HLH or any of the MP's, plus afternoons drinking at the Blue Marlin, dinner out every night, drinking at the KL, relaxing in my sauna every afternoon and just enjoying myself in a warm Central American country, while my own city is in the middle of winter. All for around $300 per day.

I can live with that for now

Anyhow, these are just some ramblings I have been thinking about over the holidays. In another week Ill be back in SJO and enjoying some much needed R&R...

Pura Vida!

Well said, sir.

Good post,PC, hope to cross paths you down there.

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Great post, spot on!

Cheers to you.

Will be in SJO Jan 24 -28. Will you still be there? Like to meet you.

hj

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I totally agree.


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When it comes right down to it, the way CR works, it ease and simplicity in this game, it is my favorite mongering place as well!

Great review. I joined CRT to prepare for a trip to Costa Rica, but I have not had the good fortune to travel as much as yourself.

Thanks for breaking it down by destination and culture, and comparing to both the US and CR.


So many Latinas, so little time...

Unfortunately no, I'll be leaving on the 18th. I'm down from the 7th to 18th and staying at LA.

I hate to throw rocks at your elegant dissertation, but I call B.S. here. This lady is making money off of you by sexually stimulating you. You are afraid of losing her "friendship", but she should be more concerned with losing your business. You are the prize, my friend. She she should be grateful to get dick from you. She should be the one worrying about losing a valued client. I think sex should be on the table when and if you should demand it. You are a man and deserve to Phuck the hot women you want. Our feminized culture has taught us that we should suppress our natural desire to Phuck beautiful women because it objectifies them. The more a man believes this bullshit, the less pu*sy he gets. Most women will Phuck the man who asserts his right to insert his penis.

I don't feel quite so stridently, but must admit:

If you are friends and she is "charging" you - well I sorta question the friendship - I suspect - based on your post - you are her regular customer, and have developed a good relationship - but unless you hang out with this person, go out, (even platonically), go to each others homes, know each others family, et al - in other words, have a relationship outside of her work - you sound like a real good customer (and if you do see her outside of work - my previous comment stands).

I think what works for you is whats important - realizing that others may have a different view, and often both are right

She's not a hooker, and I respect that. Very much. Like i said, I've known her for over ten years and she's probably the only stripper I have ever known who has managed to stay away from the drugs, the hooking and the string of idiot boyfriends who leech off their dancing money. Back when I first met her, I playfully pushed a little to see if she would do some after-work extras and she was always firm in saying no. Over the years, I've gotten to know many of her coworkers at the same club and she honestly has never crossed that line. And, really, why should she? She's 33 years old and owns her own home and her car. She also works part time as a personal trainer during the days. She has her shit together better then I do, lol. Over the last couple of years, I know that I could probably take it to the next level with her... not professionally, but actually a relationship, but I don't want to. As much as I respect her, she's still a stripper and still moves in circles of people that I really don't want to get close with again. I've already had one relationship with an ex-hooker that turned out to be a huge mistake. I'm not eager to repeat that.

As for all the macho alpha male BS.... LOL! It's easy to play alpha male when you pay for sex. I'm perfectly content and secure in my male identity and place in this world, thank you very much

I pay her for lap dances when I see her at work. It's her job after all. But we also do go out for coffee, late nice dinners, etc quite often. In fact, we had a midnight dinner on Christmas day night, just this past weekend. She's a great friend who remembers my birthday and the holidays and buys me clothes and cologne and other gifts. All this week, she's been texting me every day because I burned the whole season 4 of Sons of Anarchy for her and she's watching it every day

Plus, I am not even close to being a regular customer with her... lol. I actually go see her at work only about once a month on average, sometimes twice. And even though I'll drop $200 on some dances, we never count them and 2 or 3 hours might go by before we finally leave the vip room She's got one old 80 year old geezer who has a very nice pension that drops $500 a night on her, 2 or 3 days a week. Money well spent for the old guy, I say!

OK, PC. I am not going to judge you, but I still don't buy it. You brought this subject up on a national forum and I want to make several more observations and won't comment again, I promise. Obviously, based on your own statements, somewhere in your mind you DO want to bang this girl. You have just relegated yourself to "friend". This woman is using her sexuality and beauty to make money. Women like this need and want Beta orbiters (sorry, but you brought up the whole alpha-beta thing) for validation. What exactly do you get from this relationship? Stimulating conversation, cologne, text messages....? Give me a break! Someone is banging her. I guarantee you that some men who come in that strip club end up banging her and probably give her nothing for it. Unfortunately, you and other guys like you are supporting her lifestyle so that she can buy a nice car and pay the mortgage. I am sorry if this sounds harsh, but its true. I have had similar experiences in my past and totally understand where you are at. If you can honestly tell me that you are interested in her only for platonic reasons and have no desire to bang her, then I am wrong and way off base.

Estebanh, if you haven't figured out that sex can ruin a perfectly good relationship by now, then I think it's you that may not be getting it, TBH. I have a dick. She has a 120 pound body that would put a playmate of the month to shame. Of course I think about tapping that. But just because I post on this forum and partake in some P4P in Costa Rica a couple/few times a year doesn't mean I just have to Phuck every good looking woman I know.

A large amount of men go through their lives frustrated by situations such as we are talking about here. They are attracted to women that are unobtainable. They might find their wife's sister sexy, or their teacher or whomever. Sadly, those men are constrained by their upbringing or their social situation where they can not relieve those frustrations. Some turn to porn. Some cheat on their spouses. Some sneak out at night and drive in bad areas of the city to get blowjobs from scary looking woman you normally wouldn't get within 10 feet of. Very few are happy. But for many of us on this forum, we found an outlet for our needs that is safe and guilt free.

It's because I can just go to my favorite massage parlor or hop on a plane down to SJO for a week that I am able to maintain and enjoy platonic relationships with sexy women. Man! it would be depressing if the only real friendships I could have were with men or women that I didn't find attractive.

In any case, this has veered off the point I was trying to make with my little ramble.

Lesbian Stripper/Business women/Salesman with good customer skills generating a good return for her time on a continuing repeat business basis. If you don't want to Phuck her go in the club a few times and only buy a drink for yourself and tell her you are a little light. Be sure to check your purse in before you sit down.