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In a recent post by The Lurker, he stated that after pressing his CR novia
for her email password, he discovered numerous emails from/to other
Gringos. I knew my ex-novia's email ID, but not her password. As most
people use familiar things as passwords, such as one of their offspring's
names, their birthdate, etc., I tried guessing her password about 10
times, and I finally guessed right! You can't guess more than two times
per session, as after the third time it will make the 'valid' user enter a
new password. As most BM chicas have offspring, it is a good probability
that they use one of their offspring's names as a password.

When you receive an email, it is easy to determine exactly where the email was sent from. When viewing the email, click on the following...
File, Properties, Details. You will see several 'Received:from[nnn.n.nn.nnn]' statements. The first one or two will be the address of the server(s). The last one will be the actual address of the terminal
where the email was sent from. In my case, I traced the address of the BM webcam to '200.9.36.139' and the BM sportsbook to '200.9.36.141', so I knew that the address of the terminals at the BM (and KL) had to be close. With help from Seahawk/Richard (I still owe you that beer!), I
confirmed that the address of the BM terminals was '200.9.36.138'.
If you receive an email from '200.9.36.138', it was sent from the BM
(or KL).

There are a couple of other tools you can use to determine information
about addresses/websites. 'WHOIS' is well-known, and will tell you the owner of an IP. A more stealth software is 'NMapWin', which will tell you almost anything you want to know about an address/website, such as the
configuration, number and current status of ports, etc.

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"In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upwardly mobile, and the rest of us are phucked until we can put our acts together; not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely"...Hunter S. Thompson (RIP)

doesnt seem like a very legal and ethical thing to do to when you break into other people's e-mail acct. It;s probably not a very wise thing to say you did this on a public forum as well.

If she is your girlfriend, why in the world would you want to do that? You either trust her or you don't and if she is a DR girlfriend, then you should know better then to trust her. Let's say that she is a DR pro girlfriend and that something good may have come from it because she is clean and faithful, well, if she ever finds out about what you did, you might as well kiss that relationship goodbye.

I mean, if you press her enough times and she gives you her password it's a different story but I think it would suck if someone I know would break into my e-mail accounts. I dont care if she is a pro or not, it doesnt seem right.

IP addresses are no big deal, everyone can have access to that but they are not very accurate considering that it's pretty darn easy to set up a proxy acct and the IP just tells you where the server is located, not necesarily the location and it's pretty easy to set up a rotating one.

Heck, if you have no moral qualms, I'll give you a program, you can just install it in the DR, Zb, KL and all of the pC's you know and it will send you an e-mail once a day of everything that was typed in from every PC that you install the program in.

Of course, just giving you my opinion since I am a boyscout at heart with a taste for mongering just hope you dont get too upset by my post Gringotim, and if you want, next time you are around, I'll give give you a few pointers on how to see if she is faithful or not without resorting to invasion of privacy.

kotigre

Kotigre...privacy? Where have you been for the past decade or so?
There is no privacy anymore. The government does or can very
easily know everything about a person. It's only gotten worse since
9/11. I could write a book about it. George Orwell (1984) was exactly
correct! It's going to get worse...you ain''t seen nothing yet! The
latest 'hot' privacy invasion has to do with computerized radio frequency devices the
size of one of the letters in this post (or smaller). A tiny microchip is used. Wal-mart, Benetton
and other companies recently attempted to install the devices in all of their products. They could glean much personal information from the devices, such as the habits of an individual. Once you are in the police/judicial system, for anything, you are in for life. Recently the
government/airline industry attempted to set up a database to maintain the personal records, including credit and medical data, of every flyer.
I think the system was to be called CAPPS. Fortunately, privacy
advocates complained, and the system was tabled (at least for now).
Invasion of privacy...you don't think many people in the US hire detectives to 'spy' on their 'significant others'? It's big business now.
I didn't even mention keyboard/keystroke loggers, you did.

Yeah, I feel really bad about 'stumbling' into her email (LOL), especially after
she totally deceived me for over two years. My story is much the same as
the TheLurker's, so I won't go into detail here. It's not like I was breaking into a top-secret site, and stealing highly classified information. Granted,
I was somewhat of an idiot to get so involved with a semi-pro BM chica
in the first place, but don't you think Gringos who are greatly deceived
deserve at least a LITTLE sympathy?

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"In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upwardly mobile, and the rest of us are phucked until we can put our acts together; not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely"...Hunter S. Thompson (RIP)

LOL, I do have to admit that I have been deceived myself. Of course, I'd like to think that I am now wiser. Now that I think back about it, I dont regret it because it was a learning experience but I do ask myself what the heck was I thinking. Especially since I knew she was a pro from the beginning and I was just a green horn fresh of the plane.

Of course, everybody spies but the boyscout in me needs to draw a line somewhere. The biggest thing for me was just the trust thing. It's pretty hard to have a relationship if you got to snoop into the the other person's e-mail. Sure she is a pro and it's hard to trust them but if you are gonna date a pro anyway, it's kind of hard.

First off, it's long distance relationship and what is she suppose to do while you are in the US? She is a woman used to having sex a few times a day. I'm sure she must enjoy having sex and if you aint around she's gonna get herself some and she might as well get paid for it.

The second thing is this, is she does thing for money, there is always someone out there with more money and because of her chosen profession, she's gonna go to the highest bidder

third, it's pretty rare that someone will fall in love with you in just a few days. Wouldnt you wonder about that if a gringa fell in love with you in just a few weeks? If a gringa told me that back in the US, I would run away from her because she is obviously deranged.

If despite knowing all of this, you still decide to get involved with one, it's a bit like asking for it since yo know the odds are against you and you shouldnt be bitter that things didnt work out. No offense to anyone in that situation.

Just trying to say that there is no need to invade your woman's privacy(unless it is public domain info) because you already know that she's gonna keep on tricking unless you live with her in CR and will cater to her heart's desire. If you want to give a honest shot at a real relationship with a woman that is nonpro, give me the age range you are looking for and the age range you are in and I'll see if I can find you someone next time you are in town.

LOL, The last thing in the world I thought people on this board would would take umbrage to was legalities and ethics of any situation.

You pay prostitutes for sex. Your soapbox just collapsed!

Snooky...exactly!

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"In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upwardly mobile, and the rest of us are phucked until we can put our acts together; not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely"...Hunter S. Thompson (RIP)

As far as I am aware of, Prostitution is legal in the Republic of Costa Rica!.

DildoMan

Regardless of the laws in a specific country you may be in, you are still bound by the laws of the US of A and when traveling abroad you are also additionally bound by the laws and customs of the country you are visiting.

HUH???
Now there's a concept.

So when you go to London, do you drive your car on the left or the right?...or maybe just split the difference and take the middle half of the road?

CRFan

I never meant for my response to get like this but when I say "lega and ethical" there is a difference with paying for sex. When you pay for sex, it is legal in CR but most important, it is an agreement between 2 people. Whne you break into someone's e-mail acct. she never agreed to it. The question is this, would you be happy if she broke into your e-mail acct and went thru your stuff? The key word is "breaking" into the acct. without permision.

Good point Kotigre.

Dildo Man

I am not sure about other laws, however when animals go to other countries for und***ge prostitution, the quoted statement is correct.

Can any legal beagles out there verify if this is really true?
And if it is, how would it be applied when laws from different jurisdictions are conflicting?

For example: Gambling in CR would be legal for someone visiting from Vegas but illegal for someone visiting from Seattle???

The whole concept as stated seems implausible to me...but I ain't a lawyer. Can anybody define this more clearly?

CRFan

The legal concept you are referring to is known as "extraterritoriality". I'm not sure if it automatically applies to all U.S. laws or just ones that specifically state they apply to US citizens in other countries. Also, it is questionable how often it is (or even can be) enforced. After all how easily can they figure out what you are doing overseas? But it definitely is applicable AND enforced in one area that has been discussed on this board (another typical example is in the field of taxation).

The United States has laws that prohibit sex with minors in other countries and has greatly increased government efforts to combat this problem. On April 10, 2003, the U.S. Congress passed the PROTECT Act (Prosecuting Remedies and Tools Against the Exploitation of Ch*ldren Today Act of 2003) http://www.house.gov/judiciary/s151conf_002.pdf. This act amended Section 2423 of Title 18, United States Code by striking subsection (b) and replacing it with Section 105. Basically, under this new act, United States citizens or residents who engage in sexual activity abroad with a Ch*ld under 18 can face 30 years in a U.S. prison. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is now actively investigating American sex tourists abroad and making arrests.

If you don't believe it , here is an ad that the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency in cooperation with the christian organization World Vision has been posting in select countries including Costa Rica:


Now that Bush and his radical right christian allies have won re-election, we can expect the pressure is only going to get worse on the CR government to crack down on sex tourism and to fail to distinguish between innocent whorticulturalists like ourselves and the real scum Ch*ld sex mongers.

Back on the subject of hacking into chica's private e-mail accounts, why bother? First of all, I don't buy the rationalization that because privacy rights are deteriorating worldwide, we should contribute to that and invade someone else's. Also, I agree comparing the ethics of a mutually consensual act (albeit possibly illegal) to a nonconsensual invasion of someone's privacy is a false analogy. Besides, if you have the type of relationship where you can't trust your novia, what type of relationship do you really have. One should just automatically assume if one is going with a DR novia that she is trying to play you at least one way or another. Take the relationship for what its worth - good companionship and great sex - contribute to it only what you are getting out of it and don't delude yourself that it is anything more than that. One does not have "relationships" with such gals, one has affairs.

I don't know how the Ch*ld sex thing even got into this conversation. IMO, anybody caught doing that shit should just be shot and have it overwith anyhow. As far as I knew, that is illegal ANYWHERE. For sure it is in CR...so Snooky's comment wouldn't even apply because it's illegal in both countries.

My question is regarding the wide sweeping comment Snooky made regarding US law carrying over in general to other countries. Specifically he was stating this in regard to paying an adult prostitute for sex in a country in which such act is legal. I'm no attorney, but that just doesn't make any sense to me. For most things, you can't even say they are legal or not "in the USA." Many things are legal in one state and not in another. The whole concept as stated does not make sense.

Snooky, can you support that statement in any way? If you are indeed correct, it could make me a lot more careful in doing trip reports.