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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Been visiting Costa Rica steady past 2 years with 9 months solid in country out of the past 12... lurking here on CRT about as long absorbing hard won lessons from more seasoned veterans... gained many valuable insights from questions and responses posted to this board... thought I’d share some recent experiences of my own and see what advise and cautionary tales it may elicit from the brethren...

enjoyed my share professional trim here in tropical paradise... all well and good... just that the fake come-ons and sex as commerce wears a bit thin after a while (at least for me)... embarked on an effort to exclusively bed non-pros... kicked-off the project with some simple ground rules... I accept as only reasonable to pay for meals and drinks and taxi and hotels (I NEVER bring a chica back to my apartment until I know what I’m dealing with)... I’m glad to fund whatever I participate in and am fairly generous with the the small stuff like flowers and meals and drinks (no jewelery, ever)… anything that helps close the deal and get the chica bare assed naked... but under no circumstances, regardless how hot the babe, would I offer or accept requests for propinas... absolute moratorium on anything that strikes of quid pro quo cash money in exchange for sex...

In the interest of full disclosure I’m 50 year old gringo... receding hairline... could stand to lose 15-20 pounds around the middle... not ugly, but certainly not blessed with arresting good looks... pretty much joe average in appearance...

Tried to pick-up girls at the usual venues... gym, supermarket... even tied hitting on a few hotties after church services... little to no traction on any of these schemes...

Finally dawned on me that I needed a venue to engage these local babes that gave me a reason to interact on-on-one... since the best performances I ever encountered in bed came from chicas endowed with rhythmic pelvic thrusts and servo activated swivel hips, trolling the dance clubs seemed like a good option...

Went on the prowl at Casa Zeller, el Tobogán, Castros and Tipico Latino in Heredia... quickly learned to avoid el Pueblo and Salsa 54 since these places frequented by way too many semi-pros looking for opportunity hooks up and the itinerant payday...

Kinda like the famous discussion in “Pulp Fiction” movie about foot massages... dancing not sexual in itself, but includes a sexual undercurrent that can be easily massaged and nurtured into a score...

Gringos few to none at all these places... so just stepping in the door we become a bit of curiosity... got to admit the crowd skews older than say HDL chicas... plenty of abuelos out for a night on the town... but this exactly why the dance clubs such fertile hunting grounds... and even at Tipico Latino that’s almost entirely old couples there’s always at least 6-10 super hot hotties in the mix... I would see this grizzled old tico grandpa asking and ganing consent to dance with the cutest young babe... if they can do it why not me?...

So I swallowed my pride and endured the embarrassment of taking several basic dance classes... no way near able to keep up with the jump-down-turn-around precision of the locals... but I can get through a song without stepping on any toes... and I find that just like with my broken grade school spanish I get a lot of points for even making the effort...

My approach is to scope out a likely prospect... aks her to dance... if all goes well I invite her to share drink... keep alert for a slow song and see if the babe is up for little clutch and grind... get a phone #... make tentative plans for follow-up rendezvous... put through a call within 24-48 hours… see how things play out…

Been following this prescript past 6 months... score card to date...

Girls invited to dance = 26
Girls accepting to dance = 21
Phone #s obtained = 16
Follow-up dates = 12
Girls relieved of panties and ravished with abandoned = 9 (most of these 9 bedded on multiple occasions)
Girls piquing enough interest to remain in contact = 3

A few salient points emerged from my experiment... first off, I was only able to pull 1 chica direct from dance floor to the cama... and she turned out to be impressively mediocre... most of these babes out on the town with friends... meaning there’s a heavy embarrassment factor for them to go off alone with gringo extranjero... this play for no pay gambit requires a bit of patience... payoff comes after 1 or 2 solo dates... if the chica is interested in a romp in the bed you get the vibe pretty quick... if hesitant or undecided I give up move on... not here to be strung along as the free meal ticket with zero recompense for my generosity...

Granted, a few of the hook-ups lead to requests for money (choose all that apply): pay for english classes, pay for books, pay cell bill, fund daughter’s micro-bus to get to school... as soon as extra money mentioned the spell is broken... I calmly explain relationship not about money and if the subject comes up again I’m gone... my own two strikes and you’re out policy... that’s the reason why I’m down to only 3 girls I still see regular...

Got some real quality out of my strategy to day... one babe, 28 years old, works at call center... one is 23 studying at university to become elementary school teacher... and one (admittedly a bit out of my normal tica age range) is 38 and a micro-wave engineer at ICE with an MBA... all smoking hot catches that would be out of my league back in the states...

I’ve been invited to family bar-b-ques and birthday parties... one babe arranged for us to stay free at her uncle’s beach house near Manuel Antonio... the ICE babe helped me set up pre-paid cell account... so far fairly well pleased with the results…

Granted, maybe my goal is different than most of my brothers on this board... what I really want is a smoking hot babe willing (eager?) to spread her legs on demand and only too glad to wake up early and fix breakfast, keep the house clean and do my laundry... I don’t mind covering expenses to maintain a happy home life... but I’m not here to be subsiding the brother’s auto repair shop or to fund younger sister’s college education...

Yet to find my true love soul mate... but I continue to scope out new prospects to increase my odds... and, still a chance on of the existing 3 prospects may turn into something serious... as mentioned in several other threads these ticas can be way immature and often not savvy enough to know a good thing even when it’s poking them in face... not one to be caught up in emotions so no fear one of these chicas breaking my heart... I’m not so delusional to think I’m the ideal physical specimen these young chicas have always dreamed of... but I can provide a comfortable life... I’m gentlemanly and polite (mostly)... for the right babe with some smarts between her ears I’m a tolerable companion and a good catch...

Apologies for the over wordy first post... curious if any of my compatriots tried their own non-pro novia approach?... curious to learn of past success and failures... most eager to hear for any pitfalls or tales of woe resulting for similar attempts...

May the force be with us all... happy hunting...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:02 pm 
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Stan: It sounds like you're having fun there....good for you.

I, unfortunately don't have the time nor the patience to put forth the effort you have. I prefer to cut to the chase and knock it out within 2 hrs of "Hello"...probably my ADHD...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Love the approach. Clubbing is a great way to meet regular ticas. Don't like the scorecarding, though.

Most guys won't be able to match your success, given most don't spend that amount of time in country like you do.

P.S. El Ciego is NOT going to enjoy reading your post, Stan :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:06 pm 
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I think you are doing fine esp when you maintain the two strike rule. I did like the stats (9/12, sack to date ratio). Good hunting.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:17 pm 
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Thanks for the feedback… granted, I got the luxury of working remote with steady income from the states… I ‘m free most evenings and weekends so the two hour turn around leaves me with surplus time to fill… comfortable, but not wealthy enough to fill it all up P4P…

scrupulously avoiding the obvious pitfalls of paternity and financial dependence… anybody know how CR law deals with community property if things progressed to matrimonio?... only on the hook for holdings in country? Can a scheming nena lay claim to USA assets?...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:30 pm 
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Stansam wrote:
Granted, maybe my goal is different than most of my brothers on this board... what I really want is a smoking hot babe willing (eager?) to spread her legs on demand and only too glad to wake up early and fix breakfast, keep the house clean and do my laundry... I don’t mind covering expenses to maintain a happy home life... but I’m not here to be subsiding the brother’s auto repair shop or to fund younger sister’s college education...
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sounds like a great goal to me. I would run things just how you are if I could maintain my same income but live there. I know the women I've met over the years here in the U.S. would never sign on to those expectations in a relationship, or at least not be happy with that over time. mostly the reason I suppose why I've never been married. Good luck with it, I would like to see that work somewhere on the planet. the one typical part of the equation you didn't mention is what if she has k*ds.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:05 pm 
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Enzo5 wrote:
Stansam wrote:
Granted, maybe my goal is different than most of my brothers on this board... what I really want is a smoking hot babe willing (eager?) to spread her legs on demand and only too glad to wake up early and fix breakfast, keep the house clean and do my laundry... I don’t mind covering expenses to maintain a happy home life... but I’m not here to be subsiding the brother’s auto repair shop or to fund younger sister’s college education...
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sounds like a great goal to me. I would run things just how you are if I could maintain my same income but live there. I know the women I've met over the years here in the U.S. would never sign on to those expectations in a relationship, or at least not be happy with that over time. mostly the reason I suppose why I've never been married. Good luck with it, I would like to see that work somewhere on the planet. the one typical part of the equation you didn't mention is what if she has k*ds.


Exactly my 2 concerns...

at present it seems like kinda sorta maybe some of these chicas happy to serve as personal maid and exclusive sex slave (not to offend any feminists among us)... how might that play out 5-10 years down the road?... I mean a decent guy gives 'em a good home without the macho BS they gotta take from a tico novio... should allow for a modicum of happiness, yes?...

second, bebes pop out these latina b*itches (no offense) like mushrooms on my back lawn after an evening rain... so I take all obvious anti-paternity precautions... but, yeah, hard to find good tica with no K*ds... 2 of my current 3 favoritas got K*ds... and the 1 without K*ds starting to feel like she’s leans towards that scary unhinged tica mentality... maybe about time to cut her loose... which goes to my point that maybe the ticas with K*ds the most well adjusted and best prospects for novia verdadero?...

ultimately the way I see it is their K*ds they gotta deal with it... as long as I got my space to retreat without interruption I can adapt... I mean, ain’t one much for changing diapers and like that but I don’t mind tossing a ball around in the park or going for a swim with the niños... If progressed to something long term I can absorb the cost of raising a few K*ds... ain’t that expensive in CR if you keep it on the tico level... might even be open to a couple fresh ones of my own...

glad the post sparked some interest... in many respect I feel like I’m violating some of the fundamental tenets of the brotherhood... on the other hand, every adventure offers lessons to learn... we’ll see if my hare-brained scheme turns into a lesson of regret or a lesson in successful decision making... time will tell... for now I might as well just enjoy the ride.... thanks for the input...


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:26 pm 
great post and exactly how i'd do it. i think messing around with the girls below 30 is okay if you just want sex, but i'd not want them day in and day out. i like mature women. anything below 30 and i'd feel like an ATM regardless.

p4p wasn't for me either nor was latinas (most seem emotionally whacked so i was truly scared of bringing one to the US plus i don't speak spanish). anyway, about p4p, meet and greet, negotiate, walk to the hotel, shower, do the mechanical f%ck thing, shower, back to the hotel. after a while of doing that, i could f%ck them in my mind while sitting at the bar.... while looking a chica at the SL or DR i imagined the whole thing and that got to be all i needed from p4p chicas. plus, f%cking with a condom is the absolute pits!!!!!! p4p and eating pu*sy without that thought in the back of my head was impossible. even when it is a fun chica, still not worth it mostly because of the condom (a lot to be said for truly sliding in a soaking wet pu*sy flesh to flesh). just saying, i understand your need to get away from p4p.

got me a filipina that loves doing all the basics around the house while i bring home the bacon. i work from home and she works at a filipinos grocery store that just recently opened about 9 months ago.

my company has a call center in SJ and i've thought about transferring just for the weather and change of pace. not sure we will do it while my wife is still in process of getting 10 year green card.

not sure many guys here have been in your shoes, as young as 50 and able to comfortably live in CR/SJ long term. most are hit and run types so they don't have time for dating.


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Stansam wrote:
...In the interest of full disclosure I’m 50 year old gringo... receding hairline... could stand to lose 15-20 pounds around the middle... not ugly, but certainly not blessed with arresting good looks... pretty much joe average in appearance...

...Yet to find my true love soul mate...


It's NOT gonna happen. You're living a fantasy and nothing more.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:43 pm 
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Berk2302 wrote:
Stansam wrote:
...In the interest of full disclosure I’m 50 year old gringo... receding hairline... could stand to lose 15-20 pounds around the middle... not ugly, but certainly not blessed with arresting good looks... pretty much joe average in appearance...

...Yet to find my true love soul mate...


It's NOT gonna happen. You're living a fantasy and nothing more.

Berk....


agreed... but as long as the fantasy continues to play out real time... and I got an exit strategy on-tap for dump and run as needed with no financial complications... how my game plan any different than long standing tradition of kicking a chica outta the hotel room when she asks for extra propina?... I mean, what am I afraid of?... getting my heart broke?... way too old that... beyond that, don’t see a whole lot of downside...

please and welcome any/all comments enumerating the folly of my ways... exactly the purpose of my post... :D


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Stansam wrote:
Berk2302 wrote:
Stansam wrote:
...In the interest of full disclosure I’m 50 year old gringo... receding hairline... could stand to lose 15-20 pounds around the middle... not ugly, but certainly not blessed with arresting good looks... pretty much joe average in appearance...

...Yet to find my true love soul mate...


It's NOT gonna happen. You're living a fantasy and nothing more.

Berk....


agreed... but as long as the fantasy continues to play out real time... and I got an exit strategy on-tap for dump and run as needed with no financial complications... how my game plan any different than long standing tradition of kicking a chica outta the hotel room when she asks for extra propina?... I mean, what am I afraid of?... getting my heart broke?... way too old that... beyond that, don’t see a whole lot of downside...

please and welcome any/all comments enumerating the folly of my ways... exactly the purpose of my post... :D


Sounds to me you have the situation well in hand.

When mongers tell me "It's just a fantasy" I always answer thusly: "When you watch a movie, you know (unless you're 3) you're watching a make-believe story, right? Yet even so, you still appreciate the skill of the actors, writers, and directors who put together the experience you're enjoying."

I'll tell you one folly :D as a courtesy to our brother El Ciego the non-stop ellipses have to go. He uses a screen reader to peruse CRT. Imagine him having to sit through innumerable repetitions of "period period period" at the end of each one of your sentences.

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Miamiheller wrote:


I'll tell you one folly :D as a courtesy to our brother El Ciego the non-stop ellipses have to go. He uses a screen reader to peruse CRT. Imagine him having to sit through innumerable repetitions of "period period period" at the end of each one of your sentences.

mh


my bad

no more ellipses

thanks for the heads-up


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Thanks for the reminder Brother MH, as I'm prone to over-use them myself. Apologies, Brother El Ciego.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:44 am 
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I think the strategy & thinking processes are both correct, mirroring mine. Unfortuntely I still have to work for a living in the US (58 y/o, W/M, gordito) so I visit once every 3 - 5 weeks for 7 - 8 days.

Met my current novia at Mall San Pedro in the food court. Been 3 years now & we're both happy. She's 33, never had any offspring, and quite a stunner IMHO.

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I think you have an excellent strategy and approach, very well thought out. I'd like to think I'd follow a similar line if I were fortunate enough to have more time to spend in CR on a regular if not permanent or semi-permanent basis ... and hopefully meet with a similar level of success (note the use of the elipsis to indicate a deliberate pause in thought rather than just a more routine end of sentence :P). It may be hard for more casual visitors (or ADHD guys like Crazyhorse) to imagine ever getting bored with the P4P scene, but I could certainly see why that could get a bit old and routine after you've been there a while.

I agree with MH that you need to emphasize that your approach and success rate really could only practically apply to someone else in CR on a permanent or at least semi-permanent basis like yourself rather than to the much less frequent visitor that probably makes up the vast majority of this board. But I actually appreciate the scorecarding. OK, a one week every few months guy would probably never be able to match those numbers, but it does at least give them an idea of what sort of success rate they MIGHT acheive if they were there more regularly. The problems I see with your numbers are twofold. One, obviously, they're really just for you. Someone else might get similar results but there are so many variables that could impact those results such as physical fitness, attractiveness and age (you say you're relatively middle of the road on that so that could mean possibly radically different results in either direction depending on the guy and where he fell on those measures), spanish language ability and personal charm, dancing skills, pre-selectivity (you say these gals are all hot, but that is subjective and if a guy always shoots higher or even if he shoots lower as well, it could lead to different success rates) as well as many other factors. The second problem with your scorecard is that you neglected to include the ultimate measure - "true love found = zero so far."

And if I were to find one possible fault in your overall approach that might be it. It seems like you are coming at this from a very grounded perspective. You say you're not one to be caught up in emotions and are not delusional, which is good, but when you say "Yet to find my true love soul mate" it suggests to me that you at least hold out that hope. And I'm not saying that is necessarily bad. I'm only saying, being the cynic that I am, that is probably not too likely no matter how you try to improve the odds and that, if it were me, I'd look at that prospect as just a potential BONUS that I wouldn't really count on happening that much. If it does happen -great! If not, well at least you're having a fun and mutually beneficial realtionship with someone you like, so be happy with that.

There are 3 things I really like about your approach.

1) I think its really wise that you're opening yourself up to at least somewhat older chicas. Practically speaking the younger 20-ish ones may be super hot but it is probably far less likely they'll have even a modicum of the maturity you'd need for any sustained non-purely sexual relationship. Unfortunately, while the 30-ish ones might be better in that regard, as you have found when dealing with these relatively uneducated ticas, even there they may not measure up to our ideal standards. And short of going with ticas much closer to our own age (who STILL may not meet our intellectual needs and whose physical attractiveness is usually beginning to slip just like ours), even the 30-somethings represent a fairly sizable age difference for guys in their 50's and beyond. I guess the real trick will be in finding the right balance between still having enough of their youthful beauty and sexual appeal left on the one hand and having enough of the emotional maturity that SOMETIMES comes with age on the other. And I'm not 100% sure that can even be done.

2) You seem to wisely recognize that, while also treating them nice is very important, the financial stability we can offer is really our primary drawing card when we're talking about relationships with such much younger chicas AND you're wisely setting clear limits on how much you're willing to spend, how you deal with that in general and are considering your possible financial risks. BTW, I realize the 9 you've scored with you've bedded multiple times, but as long as you're keeping statistics I'd be curious to know your financial scorecard in terms of how much you've spent in total in terms of dance lessons, expenses in the clubs on all the chicas including the dead ends, expenses you've paid on dates (do you take them to fancy and expensive places or to the more down to earth modestly priced type ones), voluntarily buying them gifts (as opposed to the RFM's initiated by them which you turn down). Then divide that total amount by the number of nights you've bedded them. I realize that there is also a qualitative difference in those encounters as well as probably an enjoyment factor even when you go out dancing and don't get any numbers or on dates where you don't score, but it would at least give us some comparative financial measure vs. the more traditional P4P that the rest of us primarily engage in while in CR.

3) You're taking the potential paternity issue very seriously as well. I realize that you "might be open" to having a couple of K*ds of your own, but presumably that would ONLY be with a chica you were reasonably certain of having a sustained long-term relationship with. Right now you're still searching and you may never find that permanent chica. I think you should REALLY ask yourself do you really WANT fresh K*ds at this stage in your life (not just "open to it") because despite your best efforts you may find that one of the chicas you're seeing becomes pregnant and it very well might not be the one you'd want to enter into such a long term commitment with. It's not unheard for some chicas to do such things as poke pinholes in condoms and do other tricks to lock in a potentially valuable meal ticket. If you really could go either way about ever having your own K*ds, then you might be better off to prevent any unplanned (by you) pregnancy by getting yourself snipped. That takes all the guesswork out of the equation, puts the worries out of the back of your mind, makes you immune to any of her potential tricks, puts you in complete control rather than her and, assuming she's a non-pro that you're reasonably certain isn't sleeping around, enables you to do away with the condoms altogether making the sex all that much better.


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