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I dunno

Easy...I don't know how to answer, as I've sent money to a total non-pro
as well as a semi-pro (you wanted honesty). Having said that, let me
just say that I was 'out of my f*cking mind'! What a dumb-ass

CAVEAT...NEVER EVER SEND MONEY
(unless you've got your head stuck up your ass, like I did)

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No I have neve been asked to send money to any lady in Costa Rica; however, I have never been after the GFE exprience there as well. This might have an influence on not being solicted.

I have been to Bogota many times, and have had several long-term GFE relationships (perhaps GFE is to casual to explain the relationships). One of these ladies did request money fom me, and I knew it was a complete "shakedown," as I was completely familiar with her, the family, the social/economic status of both, and other relevant facts. The lady was not a pro or semi-pro, rather a very affluent professional.

When I refused to send the $ 1,500 US in 2001, she indicated that she would never communicate with me again. Good to find that out then, rather than later!

Denver

I dunno

I would have liked to see one other option and that would be "Have you ever sent money to a girl in any foreign country other than Costa Rica?"

Might change the overall stats.

In my case I would say "Yes", but she had become a friend, I knew she needed it and I didn't harbor any illusions of a long-term relationship.

Easy:

Nice Post and I think you fully understand the original purpose of my post.

To sort of emphasize my point, I had a recent experience with a monger (who will remain nameless) that got sucked in by one of these DR manipulators. When I mentioned to him that me and my buddie had her he got a little flustered. Then he proceeded to call the bitch and tell her not to see me or my buddie. This experienced monger actually asked me to look out for her (spy) and report back to him.

I told him he was out of his friggin mind and he needed to do some reevaluation. Of course, the bitch was working the whole time as I know for a fact.

I could tell you 30 stories like this. Another story relates to a DR puta that loves to tell me and laughs about all the guys that pay her outrageous sums of dinero after they listen to all of her bullshit stories.
In fact, everytime I see her I can't run far
enough away from her because it bothers me to hear these stories.

peace out brothers.

King Costa writes:

King and Easy, thanks for the continued warnings about this practice. I think what you said here is a big part of the problem. If she is bragging to you about how much money these guys send her, she is also bragging to the other chicas. Pretty soon, they start doing the same thing with the gringos they know.

Sooner or later, if you maintain contact with any of the DR chicas after you leave CR, you will be hit up for money. How hard the hit depends on how hardened she is as a pro. The longer she works in the Del Rey, the harder she will become.

Sadly, I watched Cristal go from sweet and innocent to hard core in about 6-8 months. Mid-way through, she demanded I buy her an airplane ticket home to see her sick mom. I refused, and she said "Fine, I will get a new novio, similar to the Lurker." Yes, she had once been with the Lurker. I held firm, and eventually she caved....but I explained to her that I never send money to chicas in CR because they always always lie.

When I finally got down to see her, and we spent four TLN's together, I bought her the damn ticket. She never used it...at least not yet. I guess her mother made a miraculous recovery.

In the next trip down....the one I took a few weeks ago, she was harder than ever....more demanding and more money crazy. It was finally enough for me to break the Cristal habit. I knew what she was turning into, and was powerless to stop it.

I did notice something on this last trip. She had developed a few new novios. I am sure a few of them are sending her money. Yes it is stupid....and someday those guys will feel taken.

But Easy makes a great point about learning from these mistakes. As Winston Churchill once said "those who don't learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them."

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Just to bring up a point that has been made in some older threads-

Not every guy that sends a chica some money is necessarily a sucker or an idiot for doing so, just as not every chica is a DR manipulator (there's still a few that haven't learned it yet).
If he has seen how she lives, has money to spare and wants to help her and her family out- isn't he doing a good deed? I've done my share of giving and charity work in the states and this could be considered the same, to a point. Hell, I know a guy that bought a chica a car, my reaction of course was "are you nuts?" but he says, so what, she needed it and it'll help her and the whole family and it's not much money to him. Even if things don't work out he'll get the satisfaction of helping someone less fortunate. I couldn't argue with that...
I guess the fine line here is when the chicas lie and lead us on, and gringos have unrealistic expectations in return for their "investment," as opposed to giving a gift to a favorita or making a charitable contribution by buying her something she needs out of simple compassion/generosity.
One of my GFE from last trip informed me they had no beds in their little apartment and sleep on the floor. Sending her money is not a good idea, but buying her some furniture as a gift while I'm there would be the better choice and would also give me the satisfaction of helping her. I'm not planning on doing it, just laying out a more sensible approach than sending money.
Besides, she probably makes more than I do anyway, In fact, I'm gonna email that bitch right now and see if she'll send ME some money for a plane ticket! She hasn't asked for money yet, we're still at the "Oh, I love you so much Papi and will not forget you" stage- We'll see just how much she really loves Papi...

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no im to cheap

yes,but she is pissed i did not send her the full amount,she lent me........................

To all those price concerned individuals out there:
While reading this thread I realized all this sending of money from the United States to Costa Rica must be having an effect on what you're paying their. Logically if the girls are getting paid to stay home there are fewer girls to choose from and the law of supply and demand would say price would go up. Even if the girl does not stop working ( we all know they would never lie about that ) having money coming in each week from the U.S. would reduce her need for the money she got from working. Instead of taking a $50 date she would hold out for that $100 1.
Being one of those individuals who has been slammed about what I pay I feel discriminated against when you are not slamming these guys who sends money and make the prices go up.
Now for a full disclosure. I have never sent money but I have sent flowers. A lovely young things 21st birthday. Bill for the flowers was $45 and I got more good loving for those flowers on my next visit than some of you guys got for braces. ( Just good-natured fun do not get upset ).

Lee/ ( love them pay them leave them ).

WHAT! Flowers? And you call yourself a LAL guy...
(love them- pay them- leave them....send flowers)

Just kidding, but I didn't know you were such a smooth operator. This kind of thing can really pay off, being a gentleman has it's rewards. PhillyRookie and Latinoheat were so smooth last trip they both got laid for free.

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Paco,
I realize you were probably just playing the devil's advocate, but I'm sorry I just don't buy your rationale.

First of all, as you yourself pointed out, these gals, whatever their needs, are far from being the most needy of people one could be making charitable gifts to. Many are making good incomes compared to the average costa rican and they are all certainly doing much better than many others in the rest of central america and around the world. If you've got money to spare and want to help somebody, do it where it will do the most good - such as Save the Ch*ldren, UNICEF or perhaps Fundacion Rehab.

Secondly, buying goods as opposed to giving cash amounts to basically the same thing. The only difference is control over how the money is spent. You will know she isn't going to use the money to pay for her REAL tico novio's crack cocaine bill. But she will still see it as something EXTRA she has managed to extract from you by batting her eyes (or opening her legs) and telling some hard luck story.

Which brings me to my main and final point. The guy who gives these gifts, cash or goods may see it as a freely chosen act of generosity and feel really good about it. But lets face it, it's not pure altruism or he would be donating his funds somewhere else anonymously. Lets face the reason he gives it to his "novia" is because he thinks he has a special connection with her or because he is so enamored with what she does for him in the sack. Somewhere in his reasoning is the belief that his act will somehow further that connection. He naturally falls back on the financial means which was the original basis of that relationship (deals from his strength). But it is still to him a quid pro quo commercial exchange. Although it may never be stated. He somehow thinks that he will get something back (perhaps intangible such as being held in higher regard, appreciation leading to better sex, etc,) for his investment/donation.

Of course to her this "connection" may or not be real. It may be an outright act or exist only as long as the funds flow. She may regard his act as generous, but she is just as likely to see it as something she was able to manipulate him into giving her. After all thats basically what they do for a living. The only important questions are how much can they get and in what form and what or how much they will have to put out to get it. Obviously, getting something for nothing is the ideal. In the final analysis, getting guys to buy them gifts is really not much different from what they do in the bar. If they can get a guy, any guy, to give her something just for coming up with a story, they are more likely to think they can try it on the next guy and more likely to tell their friends of their success thereby encouraging them to do the exact same thing. Have you ever noticed that sometimes different girls seem to use the same hard luck stories? In that sense giving them anything beyond fair compensation for services rendered, whether you see it as charity or not, is also not that much different than when the ignorant newbies come into the BM and readily agree to the cien for short-time rate.

Pacoloco:
To defend my flowers sending. This was back in 1999. She worked for an escort agency and I was planning on seeing her shortly after her 21st birthday. She was very pleased and I'm sure it improved her performance for our two nights together. Now was I trying to be a nice guy or was I just trying to improve my position for an upcoming encounter. Was I being a nice guy or was I just trying to get more for my money. Let's face facts even in the real world we do not give presence to lovely young ladies because were nice guys. Were just trying to improve our chances of getting laid ( in the case of the USA and improving the guaranteed lay in Costa Rica ).
To an extent I must agree with the previous poster in most cases the giving of presence is a subconscious attempt to improve performance. I know that's not exactly what was said but I have said before I like to keep things down to the real basic level. Whether its cash or present whether you realize it or do not realize it all you're doing is trying to improve your chances of getting good sex.
Lee/ love them pay them leave them ( flowers optional ).

What I hate most about the girls in the BM is when they ask for "Tips" for no damn reason at all! What do they think? We're going to tip them for just smiling at us??

That is the equivalent to begging in my eyes...

I always ask them "What for?" and walk away...