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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:32 am 
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To our brothers that live in CR and others:

I see the legislature passed the law requiring $1000.00/month income, raising it from $600.00, for immigration to CR and residency, which goes into effect in 6 months or so. It is not retroactive but I don't have the full details.

How will this effect those living in CR on a fixed income, whether SS or pensions?? I am thinking that those that have business won't be as effected.

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I can't imagine anyone trying to live in CR on less than $1000 per month. Shouldn't impact anyone.

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The monetary requirements should not present a problem since it is not retroactive.

This however is one of those cases where the "devil is in the details". Until the regulations concerning the various provisions of the law are promulgated it is difficult to know what the effects are. In CR the legislature pass bills with somewhat broad outlines and then the bureaucrats fill in the blanks with various regulations.



From this mornings AM Costa Rica:

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Answers to many of the questions expats have on how the law will be applied will be contained in the regulations that have not yet been published.

With a requirement that residents join the Caja and a beefed up police force, the possibility of a crackdown on so-called perpetual tourists is a possibility. Some in government seek to restrict tourists to two 90-day visits a year.

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There is an article in today's Inside Costa Rica that is more informative about the possible effects on gringos then the AM Costa Rica article.


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New Costa Rican Immigration Law Approved!

In second and final debate, the new immgration law was passed by the country's legislators Tuesday evening. But, it won't be until next year and the next government to apply the new rules.

The approval vote for the new Ley de Migración , that bolsters the powers of the Policía Migratoria (immigration police), increases immigration controls and forces foreigners to immerse in Costa Rican culture, came at 7pm Tuesday night.

Although the complete text of the law approved is yet to be made available, the main changes are the criminilization of the trafficking of persons, creates a tribunal for complaints and appeals of the immigration service decisions and forces hotel operators to maintain a register of all their guests.

The new immigration law also increases the montly financial requirements for pensionados to us$1.000 from the current us$600 and legal residents will have to join the Caja Costarricense de Seguro Social (CCSS).

The new law, once it goes into effect, will ask Rentistas to demonstrate a permanent fixed income of at least us$2.500 monthly from the current us $1.000, marriages of convenience will also come under attack, with the immigration having the authority to investigate arranged marriages for the sole purpose of obtaining legal residency.

Under the new law, foreigners will have to prove that the marriage is a bonafied union, that the parties know each other and may be subject to a joint interview by immigration officials, who will also interview people who are said to know the couple and the marriage.

Foreigners detained for immigration irregularities, under the new law, can only be held for a maximum of 24 hours, the time the immigration service has to demonstrate that the detained foreigner is in the country illegally or set him or her free.

Questions to how the new immigration law affects foreigners living in the country, who have obtained their legal residency or an in the process, as well as those considering moving to Costa Rica, can only be answered when the full text of the new immigration law is published in the official government publication, La Gaceta.

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...marriages of convenience will also come under attack, with the immigration having the authority to investigate arranged marriages for the sole purpose of obtaining legal residency.

Under the new law, foreigners will have to prove that the marriage is a bonafied union, that the parties know each other and may be subject to a joint interview by immigration officials, who will also interview people who are said to know the couple and the marriage.


To the extent that this part of the law is enforced, it may have more of an effect on working girls than on gringos. There was an article in La Nación last week that discussed this aspect of the law which certainly gave the impression that it was a high priority for both the lawmakers and Migración.

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...marriages of convenience will also come under attack, with the immigration having the authority to investigate arranged marriages for the sole purpose of obtaining legal residency.

Under the new law, foreigners will have to prove that the marriage is a bonafied union, that the parties know each other and may be subject to a joint interview by immigration officials, who will also interview people who are said to know the couple and the marriage.


To the extent that this part of the law is enforced, it may have more of an effect on working girls than on gringos. There was an article in La Nación last week that discussed this aspect of the law which certainly gave the impression that it was a high priority for both the lawmakers and Migración.


I agree that it will effect working girls, read that as Colombians, more then gringos. How often have they raided the Del Rey picked up 100 supposed illegal immigrants and have to let 98 of them go when they show they are married to to a Tico. The only problem is that they can not name the Tico unless they can read the name off the marriage license. :shock:

Sure there are gringos who get residency through a marriage of convenience but that number pales in comparison to its use by prostitutes seeking residency. That does not make it right but it is a far less of a problem and will also be dealt with. Under the current law Migración can absolutely know the marriage is a shame but they can not do anything about it.

For guys who say so what? How would you react if the U.S. Immigration service was shackled in not being allowed to investigate marriages of convenience?

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I can't imagine anyone trying to live in CR on less than $1000 per month. Shouldn't impact anyone.


I don't think that the new monetary requirements were intended to keep Gringos out. As with the original intent of the new law, the higher limits are meant to keep those pesky Nicos and Columbianos away.

Another feature that I had heard that the new law contained is that visitors are limited to two 90 visits. Like the rest of the details of the new law, we won't know exactly what is what until the law is published. I don't know if this is for a lifetime, for a year or what. This could put an end to perpetual tourism.

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Western wrote:
those pesky Nicos and Columbianos


Pesky indeed :D :D :D
Nicas and Colombianos :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Another feature that I had heard that the new law contained is that visitors are limited to two 90 visits. Like the rest of the details of the new law, we won't know exactly what is what until the law is published. I don't know if this is for a lifetime, for a year or what.


Do not know where you heard that. The article in AM Costa Rica mentioned that some in government would like to restrict tourists to 2 ninety day visits per year. It does not say that is in the new bill. This is what I posted earlier quoting AM Costa Rica.

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With a requirement that residents join the Caja and a beefed up police force, the possibility of a crackdown on so-called perpetual tourists is a possibility. Some in government seek to restrict tourists to two 90-day visits a year.


Perhaps those who you heard that from misquoted what was in the news article.

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Irish Drifter wrote:

From this mornings AM Costa Rica:

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With a requirement that residents join the Caja and a beefed up police force, the possibility of a crackdown on so-called perpetual tourists is a possibility. Some in government seek to restrict tourists to two 90-day visits a year.


For those of us that visits CR every month, if this new law is passed would it pose a HUGE problem for us?!!


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Chico123 wrote:

For those of us that visits CR every month, if this new law is passed would it pose a HUGE problem for us?!!


The law has passed but does not contain any restriction on the amount of 90 day visas that one can get in a year. What I posted was

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The article in AM Costa Rica mentioned that some in government would like to restrict tourists to 2 ninety day visits per year

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Chico123 wrote:

For those of us that visits CR every month, if this new law is passed would it pose a HUGE problem for us?!!


The law has passed but does not contain any restriction on the amount of 90 day visas that one can get in a year. What I posted was

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The article in AM Costa Rica mentioned that some in government would like to restrict tourists to 2 ninety day visits per year


Sorry ID, maybe its too much sex today or too much alcohol, my head isn't working right.

We dont need visas to come to CR from US? so that part has no affect on us.

But restricting tourist to "2" ninety days visits, wont this affect us? Does this mean we can visit CR only twice per year?

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For those of us that visits CR every month, if this new law is passed would it pose a HUGE problem for us?!!


The law has passed but does not contain any restriction on the amount of 90 day visas that one can get in a year. What I posted was

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The article in AM Costa Rica mentioned that some in government would like to restrict tourists to 2 ninety day visits per year


Sorry ID, maybe its too much sex today or too much alcohol, my head isn't working right.

We dont need visas to come to CR from US? so that part has no affect on us.

But restricting tourist to "2" ninety days visits, wont this affect us? Does this mean we can visit CR only twice per year?

Thanks.


No , No , No. ID was stopping the "rumor-mill" . NOTHING has changed regarding the 90 day visits. ID clarified that the news article stated that while a legislator here may want to change the unlimited 90 day visits, it was not part of the law. Only a comment by a lawmaker.

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Chico123 wrote:

We dont need visas to come to CR from US? so that part has no affect on us.


You are correct in saying that you do not need a visa, if you are a U.S. citizen, when you enter CR. However, when Immigration admits you to the country and stamps your passport that stamp is a tourist visa. U.S. residents are generally granted one for a 90 day period but residents of some other countries get one for less time. Either way it is a visa.

The new law does not change that procedure.

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Thanks for clarifying guys.

I thought we were restricted to 2 visits per year. So many bad things ran through my mind.

I feel much better now. thanks. :D


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