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Author: | Californicationdude [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:27 pm ] |
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the annual pilgrimage to Cartago has been cancelled or just discouraged? I see the Cruz Roja is withdrawing support. What happens if thousands and thousands of people make the walk anyway? |
Author: | Irish Drifter [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Annual Pigrimage Cancelled? |
Californicationdude wrote: the annual pilgrimage to Cartago has been cancelled or just discouraged?
I see the Cruz Roja is withdrawing support. What happens if thousands and thousands of people make the walk anyway? It has been officially canceled. The Basilica will not be open and no ceremonies will be held by the church. While everyone is encouraged to worship at their local church instead obviously there is no way to enforce the decree. Those who insist on making the pilgrimage will not have the police or red cross providing protection and first aid. |
Author: | Redman69 [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:55 pm ] |
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Why was this cancled? My first trip down on 8-2 I took a bus and went to Cartago. Walked from the bus stop and back. But passed thousands of all ages walking. It was a great event. Have been told people have walked from all over the country. Just wondering why? |
Author: | Californicationdude [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:59 pm ] |
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ok, cancelled. but, some of the reports/stories of past pilgrimages estimate as much as 40 percent of the population makes the journey. and the tradition is centuries and centuries old? I just can't imagine the government and church canceling something so ingrained into Tico culture. sounds like a major fubar coming up, but I guess we'll see. the logic is that this will help stop the spread of swine flu? |
Author: | Irish Drifter [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:25 pm ] |
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The Health Minister estimated that holding the Pilgrimage might result in 20,000 additional cases of the AN1H1 flu. The Catholic clergy agreed it was a large risk and along with the Government canceled the event. Seeing how it is a tradition that has been carried on for over two hundred years and draws an estimated two million participants I doubt they made the decision lightly. |
Author: | Californicationdude [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:24 pm ] |
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here are some reports for Florida TALLAHASSEE - A top state medical official says 5 million Floridians could contract the swine flu within a year if the virus follows the pattern of previous pandemics. Acting state epidemiologist Dr. Richard Hopkins said Thursday that pandemics are deadly because so many people get sick. He notes that as many as 30 percent or more of the population was infected in previous pandemics. Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says they've been estimated this pandemic could be along the lines of the 1957 Asian flu outbreak, with similar infection rates. Florida has reported that 22 residents infected with the H1N1 virus have died, including 10 in the last three weeks. Officials counts say at least 2,900 Floridians have been sickened from the virus. However, experts say adding in unreported illnesses would make the actual number much higher. Officials expect more cases after public schools open next month. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ if that is accurate, then approx 1 out of 3 people in florida would come down with the flu. same ratio in CR would result in over 1 million ticos getting the flu. this link is the only hit I could find on a quick search about any preperations CR is taking regarding the predictic epidemic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_p ... Costa_Rica |
Author: | Del Rey Dave [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:37 pm ] |
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And remember the Spanish Flu of 1918 killed an estimated 20-40 million people worldwide. 1/4 of the US population came down with it and 1/5 of the worlds. More people died of it than were killed in WW1. Let's all hope that this does not happen. |
Author: | Irish Drifter [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:43 pm ] |
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Californicationdude wrote: Florida has reported that 22 residents infected with the H1N1 virus have died, including 10 in the last three weeks. Florida has over 4 times the population of Costa Rica but less then twice the incidence of death. What is disturbing is that the death rate has risen dramatically recently in both places. It would seem that the CR health authorities and the church came down on the side of caution. |
Author: | Del Rey Dave [ Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:51 pm ] |
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Author: | Californicationdude [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:52 am ] |
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well, i understand the reasoning behind the official decisions regarding the pilgrimage, but other events such as large sporting events are still being held. i am curious as to how the public will react to the suspension. as one paraphrased quote put it "government is government and religion is religion" there should already be people starting the walk from the farther reaches of the country if they plan on participating. i can't find any reports of that but it is still over a week out. I know in Mexico that there have been reports of otherwise healthy people between the ages of lets say 15 and 39 years old have died due to the flu, but the vast majority of other deaths seemed to have been with unfortunate people with underlying health problems such as diabetes, asthma and/or obesity/heart problems where their resistance has been compromised. anyway, an interesting situation going on with the attempted cancellation of the pilgrimage over the threatening flu epidemic, itself a subject with a fascinating history. |
Author: | Irish Drifter [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:04 am ] |
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Californicationdude wrote: well, i understand the reasoning behind the official decisions regarding the pilgrimage, but other events such as large sporting events are still being held. As far as I know there have not been any large sports events scheduled to take place since the recent spike in deaths. They may well deide to cancel those also of the occasion arises. The press this morning did report that they will not extend the school mid term holiday another week. Classes resume on Monday. Californicationdude wrote: i am curious as to how the public will react to the suspension. as one paraphrased quote put it "government is government and religion is religion"
That is not necessarily true in Costa Rica. Government and Church are very closely attached. Go into a CAJA hospital or clinic and you will most likely see a shrine dedicated to a saint. At Christmas time every government office will have a Nativity scene prominently displayed. |
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