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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:47 am 
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Anyone care to enlighten us?

Feel free to break it down more, by nationality, by age range, whatever.

This will help me feel like less of a male slut ; )


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:05 am 
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About the only thing that could possibly make you feel less like a male slut would be to survey this unusual bunch of guys who are probably as big or bigger sluts than even you are. The flaw in your approach is that you'd only be deluding yourself because probably not one single person on this board is any where close to being representative of the general population.

According to this MSNBC story, only 29% of men report having had more than 15 sexual partners in their lifetime (and 9% of women). The median number for men was only 7 (and 4 for women). Sheeit, I've done that many different partners in one day! Another study, by British researchers, came up with only a slightly higher figure for men at 12.7 heterosexual partners in their lifetimes (and women had 6.5). I've done that many in just one week.

An interesting aspect to these findings is the debate on how could women have so many fewer partners than men? Some people think this mathmatically impossible since it takes 2 to tango. What those people don't understand is the difference between median and mean. I won't go into that here, but suffice it to say it would be impossible for men and women to have different means or averages but is entirely possible to different MEDIANS. But even if we just look at the medians, it raises some interesting questions regarding the differences.

The most basic explanation is that guys just screw around more than women do, but that is boring so lets look at the other explanations that have been offered.

The first one is that people lie. Unless they're as slutty as most of us CRTers, most NORMAL guys inflate the number of women they say they've been with in order to appear more manly. Obviously, very very few of us have to do that. In fact, if a regular woman asked me how many other women I'd been with I'd have to lie grossly in the OTHER direction (admit to only the non-pros I've been with or otherwise fudge over the question) lest she realize how completely corrupt a whoremonger I actually am. Women, on the other hand, don't want to appear slutty so they tend to understate their true numbers just as we true man-sluts do. In other words, these survey results are tainted by our trying to conform with our preconceived stereotypes (and the survey results in turn reinforce those stereotype). What this means in terms of numbers is that the ACTUAL number of partners that the average guy has had is even LOWER than the numbers reported above and that much fewer than 29% have had as many as 15 partners. I bet you're all really feeling slutty now.

Misreporting could explain part of difference but another reason given is even more interesting for us. This theory is actually known as "the foreign prostitute theory". The way this goes is that the "missing women" that all these guys say they've had sex with aren't part of the sample population that was surveyed in the female half of the study. This phenomena has even been studied by the National Academy of Science (wonder how I can get a grant for something like that):
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One of the most reliable and perplexing findings from surveys of sexual behavior is that men report substantially more sexual partners than women do. We use data from national sex surveys and studies of prostitutes and their clients in the United States to examine sampling bias as an explanation for this disparity. We find that prostitute women are underrepresented in the national surveys. Once their undersampling and very high numbers of sexual partners are factored in, the discrepancy disappears. Prostitution's role in the discrepancy is not readily apparent because men are reluctant to acknowledge that their reported partners include prostitutes.
(source:http://www.pnas.org/content/97/22/12385.abstract)

Basically what this means is that the only reason the reported number of partners is even as "high" as it is is because a lot of them were hookers (I know a lot of mine are) and the number of non-pro partners is something even less than what is reported above.

If you figure the average monger has probably done at least the number of average LIFETIME partners in a SINGLE mongering trip, has done multiple trips and has probably done more than his fair share of local P4P before he got into foreign mongering, then the numbers who have done more than 15 partners in their lifetime is easily 100% and the average has to top 100 or more.

I wouldn't expect too many surprises there, except perhaps who will claim top score. A more interesting aspect of these might be the breakdown between pro partners and non-pros. With such an extensive history with hookers, if I was talking to "civilians" I'd have to leave them (or nearly all of them) out of my totals rather than include them all to inflate my totals like most regular guys have to do. OTOH, when it comes to my non-pro count I'm probably not so different from those regular guys. My NON-PRO count is fairly close to their average TOTAL count, though, if truth be told closer to the figure in the US study rather than the one from the UK. So like them, I'll sometimes stretch the truth a bit, at least for the non-pro part.

One question that I'd be curious about is whether most mongers have a higher or lower non-prostitute count than guys who don't consort with prostitutes as much or whether, when you factor out the hookers, we're much like anyone else.

Another question that I'd be curious about is whether you guys admit to lying about it - overstating your non-pro count and understating your total particularly if interrogated about it by a non-pro girlfriend (wife or whatever). What are your actual counts and what are the amounts that you'd admit to others (outside the mongering community)?

Oh yeah, my total count? Last time I tried to add it up, I lost count at well over 100. I'm sure I've done much more. I don't THINK I've gone over a 1000, but ya never know. I usually go with an estimate of 200+/- but even that might be overly conservative. I'm betting someone else should be able to top that 200 figure easily.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:34 pm 
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According to Leporello's stats:

"In Italia seicento e quaranta,
In Lamagna duecento e trent'una,
Centa in Francia, in Turchia novant'una,
Ma in Ispagna son gia mille e tre."

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:36 pm 
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Prolijo,

As usual, a ton of information. Respectfully, though, the guy was just asking us for a number and with perhaps some details.

My numbers and details... Up to the age of 54 and living in the US of A, I had crossed the 100 mark somewhere around the age of 50 but most were 'done' between 24 and 45. Since 54, when I moved here to CR, there have been hundreds, much too many to bother counting. I never paid until I was nearly 50 but the opportunities were getting scarce and progressively less appealing.

The majority of girls I've been with here have been Ticas, with Nicas second and some Dominicanas and even a Gringa (very gringa). Ages have varied from just 18 to grandmothers. Size everything from 80 lb anorexics to almost my own size. Height from center on the munchkin basketball team to girls over 6' tall. Paid as much as $80 once or twice and as little as $15. Have had girls who wouldn't touch my dick and others who asked ME for anal. Some multi multi orgasmic, some lay there like corpses. I've been with several sets of sisters, and a couple sets of mother/daughter. Some girls were scrupulously honest, and some outright thieves. I don't have a breakdown by pct into those categories, though... sorry.

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I honestly do know know. I lost count about 28 or 29 years ago. I'd probably be embarrassed If I could remember the number. As Prolijo said, this is a monger board and the numbers have an higher overall count than for the general population.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Would it suffice to say that about 20 years ago; I became a friend of Dr. Patrick Carnes after I read his book, " Out Of The Shadows ".

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This really got me to thinking and I do not know if I should be proud, ashamed, embrassed, in hiding from women, or in a mental institution. We accuse some women of being Nymphos, WELL some of us are MALE nymphos--actually I know many CRTers who just can not live without at least one chica in their bed everyday.

As for me, Hell yes, I AM A MALE NYMPHO AND always will be :oops: 8) :roll: :wink: . Why do I say that:

I got my handle (nickname) when I was 15 and my girlfriend (later my 1st of 4 wives) walked up, slapped me, and said "Damn you Roy, you are always "banging" other girls (she was too "nice" to say "plucking"). From that day on my 3 best friends who over heard her, never called me anything but "Bangbang". By the time I finished hi school, I was up to 18.

I was a hair stylist for about 10 years after finishing High school. Because there were, and are, so may gays in that profession, I always tried to make sure everyone knew I wasn't gay. AND the females seemed hell bent to find out for sure.. During that 10 years, I averaged at least 3 "proving" sessions a week. approx. 1500

As if I was not getting enough, I went to Monterey Mexico on my first "Mongering" trip, when I was 20. Took my Dad with me (Yes I inherited my "problem" from him jejeje) Hell we were from Hope, Arkansas (same as Clinton). Never knew but one guy from there who was not a "player" and "Monger"--really feel sorry for Huckaby jejeje!!! Even my Mother said one time that He must be the ONLY guy from Hope who did not cheat on his wife :!: :roll: . I did 6 pros and 3 non pros that week (9 total)

Started to college at 28. During the next 7 years, I did at least 100 coeds. (dirty old man 8) :lol:

Over the next 30 years , all my employes were Latinas (many were in "love" with the "gringo jefe" jeje. I made many many trips to Mexico, Colombia, and COSTA RICA. estimated total chicas: maybe 1000

Finally been living here for almost 3 years and average atleast 4 per week. 600+

Damn now this is embarrassing :oops: :oops: that works out to over 3000 chicas-- YEP, I AM A DIRTY OLD MAN 8) :roll: :wink: :lol: .. THANKFULLY I KNOW A FEW OTHER CRT MEMBERS WHO CAN MATCH OR EVEN BEAT MY # :roll: :twisted: :P

AND in thinking about it; the most amassing thing is that in all that time, and all those encounters, I have only had 2 minor STD problems and both were many, many years ago :!: :roll:

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A guy I work with one day told me that he heard/read somewhere that each guy has on average 15 partners in his lifetime, so he syas ¨Yeah you obviously took my share as well¨so we counted how many I´ve been with since I started hobbying, only counting the number of girls, not number of pops and to see all the names (beacuse I can list them) was really eye opening.

Since then I´m on my 2nd mongering trip and I´ll do a staggering amount of spending on P4P in September.

So over a liftime, I think I´m in the mid 50´s IIRC, aaaaaaand I was with the same crazy spuse for 8 years, and no I never cheated on her


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:19 pm 
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This got me to thinking and remembering: My count is around 30.

20 from the USA; 3 of which were special meaning longer than 1 year, 1 I was actually engaged to.
4 in Japan
2 in England
2 in Germany
1 Singapore
1 very special lady in CR
1 Philippines

These are only real relationships in which there was no money involved EXCEPT for the usual dinner/movie/bar/dancing. I have not included 1 one night stands or P4P experiences.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:19 pm 
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Just 2 :oops:

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55 1/2. I am still searching for another midget to make it a whole number again. :) As far as non-pro, I'd say 15 + (college flings included) but not more than 25. After my first professional when I was 13, I really couldn't tell you an actual number. All I know is that I entered the sex world with a pro and, from that time, I have been a proud male slut.

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I don't keep track of that crap.
Its somewhere in the 200-250 range though, but an exact number? No way.


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Best guess- Non Pros (98% more than ten years ago) 200-250
Pros, best guess- 150, but who really knows....I stopped putting notches in my "post" it was getting painful....

Nationality- Non pros....all over the board...

Pros-98 Percent Latina

Age range up to 55..

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:54 pm 
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An approximate estimation:

Pros = 8 chicas X 10 trips X 17 years = 1,300

Non-pros = 50 not included in the previous count. Mostly in my 20’s & early 30’

Allocation = 60 % Latinas, 30 % Euro, 10% Oriental

Never revealed to anyone. Very embarrassed to admit this in the ‘real world’. :oops:


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